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Niamh. 08-02-2018 11:22 AM

Life after death dilemma
 
So inspired by the other thread and also the Film Chappie :laugh:

If scientists discovered how to download and extract peoples consciousness and upload it too a mechanical body before you died, would you do it? So basically you would be able to live forever (be it as a robot until they discover how to make biological host bodies) :think:

waterhog 08-02-2018 11:24 AM

deff no - only so much crap poetry this world can take

Marches 08-02-2018 11:26 AM

Maybe but what bothers me is if a computer was able to replicate your brain and consciousness, would it be you living that consciousness?
It may replicate how you think and feel and stuff but would it be you(if that makes sense)?

Jordan. 08-02-2018 11:27 AM

Absolutely not I want to rest in peace

joeysteele 08-02-2018 11:27 AM

Only if the main figures in my life had this done too I'd guess.
However I've come to the view that energy in some form probably does continue after death.

So this scientific move would be less of an attraction for myself anyway.

Livia 08-02-2018 11:28 AM

I'll speak to my Rabbi and get back to you...

Niamh. 08-02-2018 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Marches (Post 9856239)
Maybe but what bothers me is if a computer was able to replicate your brain and consciousness, would it be you living that consciousness?
It may replicate how you think and feel and stuff but would it be you(if that makes sense)?

yeah like there could be multiple copies made of you as well

Livia 08-02-2018 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9856245)
yeah like there could be multiple copies made of you as well

100s of Leather Trumpets! NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo

Niamh. 08-02-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9856246)
100s of Leather Trumpets! NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo

:laugh2:

Marches 08-02-2018 11:33 AM

I’d imagine living forever would get boring too and probably lonely but I’m all for having more than 80 on average years

jaxie 08-02-2018 11:33 AM

I don't know, maybe if loved ones could do it too. I do sometimes feel our life spans are very short.

MTVN 08-02-2018 11:40 AM

Yeah I'd love to live forever, think of all the cool things you'd get to witness

user104658 08-02-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9856245)
yeah like there could be multiple copies made of you as well

Isn't this sort of the premise of the new Netflix thing "Altered Carbon"? I've not watched it yet but reading about it, it's basically about this thread concept, and what you've just mentioned here (multiple copies of your own consciousness in different bodies) is described as being "possible but highly illegal" .. but it's sort of known that some powerful people are doing it, but it's impossible to know who (the bodies themselves that the consciousness is put in are all different) :worry:.

I've been meaning to watch it and now I really want to. :joker:.

Jamie89 08-02-2018 11:42 AM

I think I would. I'd actually really like to be cryogenically frozen :laugh: basically I just want to see what the future is like rather than wanting to live forever. Experience space travel, more advanced technologies, stuff like that.

user104658 08-02-2018 11:44 AM

From wikipedia about the novel;

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In the novel's dystopian world, human personalities can be stored digitally and downloaded into new bodies, called "sleeves". Most people have cortical stacks in their spinal columns that store their memories. If their body dies, their stack can be stored indefinitely. Catholics have arranged that they will not be resleeved as they believe that the soul goes to Heaven when they die, and so would not pass on to the new sleeve. This makes Catholics targets for murder, since killers know their victim will not be resleeved to testify. A UN resolution to alter this legal position forms one strand of the novel's plot, to allow the authorities to sleeve a deceased Catholic woman temporarily to testify in a murder trial.

While most people can afford to get resleeved at the end of their lives, they are unable to update their bodies and most go through the full aging process each time, which discourages most from resleeving more than once or twice. So while normal people can live indefinitely in theory, most choose not to. Only the wealthy are able to acquire replacement bodies on a continual basis. The long-lived are called Meths, a reference to the Biblical figure Methuselah. The very rich are also able to keep copies of their minds in remote storage, which they update regularly. This ensures that even if their stack is destroyed, they can be "resleeved".

Niamh. 08-02-2018 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9856266)
Isn't this sort of the premise of the new Netflix thing "Altered Carbon"? I've not watched it yet but reading about it, it's basically about this thread concept, and what you've just mentioned here (multiple copies of your own consciousness in different bodies) is described as being "possible but highly illegal" .. but it's sort of known that some powerful people are doing it, but it's impossible to know who (the bodies themselves that the consciousness is put in are all different) :worry:.

I've been meaning to watch it and now I really want to. :joker:.

Oh yeah that's on my to watch list aswell. So all the "you's" would start out as you but change into different people according to the memories they make etc :think:

Niamh. 08-02-2018 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9856267)
I think I would. I'd actually really like to be cryogenically frozen :laugh: basically I just want to see what the future is like rather than wanting to live forever. Experience space travel, more advanced technologies, stuff like that.

also if you were into a body that didn't need to breathe you could travel into space and under water with no restrictions :amazed:

Niamh. 08-02-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9856269)
From wikipedia about the novel;

Is this Altered carbon? Sounds brilliant actually

Jamie89 08-02-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9856273)
also if you were into a body that didn't need to breathe you could travel into space and under water with no restrictions :amazed:

I never even thought about that :amazed: I was thinking there could be an overpopulation crisis but since we could live underwater and easily go to other planets, problem solved! (Unless we eventually started to overpopulate the universe :think: )

jaxie 08-02-2018 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 9856265)
Yeah I'd love to live forever, think of all the cool things you'd get to witness

Yeah that would be a big factor for me. I want to know about the future and all the things that I'll miss when I'm dead. Like will we ever find intelligent life in space and what we will be able to do in 100 years. If the last 100 years is anything to go by, in another 100 it's going to be incredible!

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9856273)
also if you were into a body that didn't need to breathe you could travel into space and under water with no restrictions :amazed:

Maybe it would be my robot who found the intelligent life in space after Elon Musk's robot sent me into space playing a loop of U2 I still haven't found what I'm looking for!

Vicky. 08-02-2018 12:05 PM

I cannot think of anything worse than living forever

She says while fantasizing about begin a vampire since being like 11

jaxie 08-02-2018 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9856285)
I cannot think of anything worse than living forever

She says while fantasizing about begin a vampire since being like 11

I never really got the whole romance thing about vampires. I mean its a corpse and it wants to drink your blood until you are dead too. What's to like?

Jamie89 08-02-2018 12:10 PM

I wonder if we'd even be able to understand the distant future, like would prehistoric man be able to understand current human life :think: If the brain keeps evolving but our robot selves don't, we'd eventually see changes that we can't actually comprehend... I think that's the point at which I'd switch off :laugh:

Vicky. 08-02-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9856287)
I never really got the whole romance thing about vampires. I mean its a corpse and it wants to drink your blood until you are dead too. What's to like?

I am not exactly sure, to be quite honest. I always found the idea of someone who stayed 'alive' by drinking other peoples...life...fascinating. And the extra strength and such too. And I have always been nocturnal so that appealed also. And finally, I really do love the taste of blood :umm2: I have only ever tasted my own though, no need to worry :laugh:

jaxie 08-02-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9856291)
I am not exactly sure, to be quite honest. I always found the idea of someone who stayed 'alive' by drinking other peoples...life...fascinating. And the extra strength and such too. And I have always been nocturnal so that appealed also. And finally, I really do love the taste of blood :umm2: I have only ever tasted my own though, no need to worry :laugh:

:umm2:

But you are definitely not in a minority for liking vampires, shows and movies about them are hugely successful. I think I'm more in the minority for not finding them appealing!


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