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Crimson Dynamo 28-03-2018 08:56 AM

Migrants stop working harder than Brits after two years
 
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Migrants stop working harder than British people after they have been in the country for two years, research has shown.

A study by the University of Bath found Central and Eastern Europe migrants' tendency to take fewer absent days from work than British workers may be nothing more than a temporary phenomenon.

When their attendance rates were measured over two to four years they were more than three times less likely to be absent from work than native UK workers.

But after this period their absences from work increased to similar levels recorded for native UK workers. It means native UK workers may be unfairly overlooked for jobs because employers have a preconception that migrants are harder workers.

Employment experts suggested migrants were making a special effort to avoid sick days in the initial stages of their UK employment to prove that they were worth hiring over UK workers and to make up for their lack of language skills.

Dr Chris Dawson, senior lecturer in Business Economics at the University of Bath, said: "Our work backs up managers' perceptions that Polish and other Central and Eastern European migrants are harder working than UK employees, but importantly only for around two years from their arrival in the UK.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...s-study-finds/


What are your thoughts on this?

Niamh. 28-03-2018 09:02 AM

That they're making an effort to integrate and pick up local traditions? :fan:

Brillopad 28-03-2018 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9933652)
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Migrants stop working harder than British people after they have been in the country for two years, research has shown.

A study by the University of Bath found Central and Eastern Europe migrants' tendency to take fewer absent days from work than British workers may be nothing more than a temporary phenomenon.

When their attendance rates were measured over two to four years they were more than three times less likely to be absent from work than native UK workers.

But after this period their absences from work increased to similar levels recorded for native UK workers. It means native UK workers may be unfairly overlooked for jobs because employers have a preconception that migrants are harder workers.

Employment experts suggested migrants were making a special effort to avoid sick days in the initial stages of their UK employment to prove that they were worth hiring over UK workers and to make up for their lack of language skills.

Dr Chris Dawson, senior lecturer in Business Economics at the University of Bath, said: "Our work backs up managers' perceptions that Polish and other Central and Eastern European migrants are harder working than UK employees, but importantly only for around two years from their arrival in the UK.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...s-study-finds/


What are your thoughts on this?

No surprise really as it is only to be expected that those wanting to get work, and trying to make a good impression, will make an extra effort. Self interest is the key rather than being harder workers per se. Did anyone actually believe it was anything else!

Crimson Dynamo 28-03-2018 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9933665)
No surprise really as it is only to be expected that those wanting to get work, and trying to make a good impression, will make an extra effort. Self interest is the key rather than being harder workers per se. Did anyone actually believe it was anything else!

I think a lot ofg employers just use the "harder workers" "do work brits wont" to hide the fact they can pay them less/work them more and make more profit

jaxie 28-03-2018 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9933667)
I think a lot ofg employers just use the "harder workers" "do work brits wont" to hide the fact they can pay them less/work them more and make more profit

Yeah pretty much this. It's all a smokescreen to get as much work as possible out of them for the least pay.

user104658 28-03-2018 09:44 AM

I wonder though... is it that they're putting in "extra" effort to make a good impression, or IS that their normal level, but then once they;ve been here a while our lack of work ethic starts to rub off on them? :joker:

So you could argue... it's just that they've become "more British" :hehe:.

Niamh. 28-03-2018 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9933671)
I wonder though... is it that they're putting in "extra" effort to make a good impression, or IS that their normal level, but then once they;ve been here a while our lack of work ethic starts to rub off on them? :joker:

So you could argue... it's just that they've become "more British" :hehe:.

Well yeah that's what I was saying earlier (half jokingly but half not) Like I reckon if I moved to Spain I'd get into their nice laid back attitude no bother :hee:

Kazanne 28-03-2018 09:47 AM

They probably realise that they can get things without working so do not bother working so much.

Niamh. 28-03-2018 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9933673)
They probably realise that they can get things without working so do not bother working so much.

Like the UK workers you mean? cos that's what it says in the article, they now work just like their UK colleagues :hehe:

Crimson Dynamo 28-03-2018 09:52 AM

maybe they just learn how to be more efficient

Niamh. 28-03-2018 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9933677)
maybe they just learn how to be more efficient

:laugh: Could be LT, good for them

Brillopad 28-03-2018 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9933671)
I wonder though... is it that they're putting in "extra" effort to make a good impression, or IS that their normal level, but then once they;ve been here a while our lack of work ethic starts to rub off on them? :joker:

So you could argue... it's just that they've become "more British" :hehe:.

You could - but it would just be supposition. From what I have seen there is no reason to believe they are harder workers other than to get their foot in the door in the first place. Once in and feeling more secure they ‘relax’ a bit more - it was always just a case of ‘wishful thinking’ for those with a left agenda.

Ammi 28-03-2018 09:58 AM

...not us staying over here and stealing all of their great work ethics.../...poor migrant people..

Niamh. 28-03-2018 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9933684)
...not us staying over here and stealing all of their great work ethics.../...poor migrant people..

:laugh:

user104658 28-03-2018 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9933684)
...not us staying over here and stealing all of their great work ethics.../...poor migrant people..

"I don't know what's wrong with me..." said our source, "I used to be up at 6am and the first one in to do a full days work. And I enjoyed it! But now, all I want to do is watch Netflix and argue with people on the internet. I haven't been to work for nearly 6 months, and in the last year my wife has had 3 children just for the Tax Credits. My boss hasn't even noticed my absence, because he's never there either... he left in the middle of the day to play Call of Duty and eat Doritos and hasn't come back."

Crimson Dynamo 28-03-2018 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9933709)
"I don't know what's wrong with me..." said our source, "I used to be up at 6am and the first one in to do a full days work. And I enjoyed it! But now, all I want to do is watch Netflix and argue with people on the internet. I haven't been to work for nearly 6 months, and in the last year my wife has had 3 children just for the Tax Credits. My boss hasn't even noticed my absence, because he's never there either... he left in the middle of the day to play Call of Duty and eat Doritos and hasn't come back."

wait, how did you know they were teachers?

:suspect:

Ammi 28-03-2018 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9933709)
"I don't know what's wrong with me..." said our source, "I used to be up at 6am and the first one in to do a full days work. And I enjoyed it! But now, all I want to do is watch Netflix and argue with people on the internet. I haven't been to work for nearly 6 months, and in the last year my wife has had 3 children just for the Tax Credits. My boss hasn't even noticed my absence, because he's never there either... he left in the middle of the day to play Call of Duty and eat Doritos and hasn't come back."

...it’s good that the migrants have better work ethics than you Scottish people, TS....we always knew those are the stories of your average working days...which is why we keep you Scotland../...so that you don’t integrate...we’ll have the migrants...but please Lord not the pesky Scottish and their game consoles...

user104658 28-03-2018 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9933712)
...it’s good that the migrants have better work ethics than you Scottish people, TS....we always knew those are the stories of your average working days...which is why we keep you Scotland../...so that you don’t integrate...we’ll have the migrants...but please Lord not the pesky Scottish and their game consoles...

You joke (I think) Ammi but my ACTUAL 10 hour working day is literally about 2 hours of work, 1 hour of lunch, and 7 hours of ****ing about on TiBB and Imgur...

It's worse when you're in charge because there's no one to impress! Sometimes I pretend to be doing compliance stuff in the staff room but I'm actually watching "10 things you never noticed in the MCU!" on YouTube :(.

jet 28-03-2018 11:03 AM

Yeah, I think at first they work harder to make a good impression and to go further/earn more, just like most do when in a new job. Then just like most, migrant or not, over time they revert to their natural individual pace - there are hardworking migrants and hardworking British, and lazier migrants and lazier British.:shrug:

user104658 28-03-2018 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 9933764)
Yeah, I think at first they work harder to make a good impression and to go further/earn more, just like most do when in a new job. Then just like most, migrant or not, over time they revert to their natural individual pace - there are hardworking migrants and hardworking British, and lazier migrants and lazier British.:shrug:

Where are these hardworking new-starts? All the ones I get are utterly dire :fist:.

Brillopad 28-03-2018 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 9933764)
Yeah, I think at first they work harder to make a good impression and to go further/earn more, just like most do when in a new job. Then just like most, migrant or not, over time they revert to their natural individual pace - there are hardworking migrants and hardworking British, and lazier migrants and lazier British.:shrug:

I agree. From my experience being a hard worker has more to do with character and individual motive rather than nationality.

Cherie 28-03-2018 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9933655)
That they're making an effort to integrate and pick up local traditions? :fan:

:joker:

Cherie 28-03-2018 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9933768)
Where are these hardworking new-starts? All the ones I get are utterly dire :fist:.

Are they taking their lead from their role model manager :fan:

arista 28-03-2018 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9933684)
...not us staying over here and stealing all of their great work ethics.../...poor migrant people..


They are saying
after March 2019
some migrants will leave.


So infact,
they may end up Very Poor with no Job or lower pay
back in the EU.

jet 28-03-2018 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9933774)
Are they taking their lead from their role model manager :fan:

You beat me to it Cherie. :hee:


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