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Twosugars 14-04-2018 11:47 AM

Explicit art in public - allowed or not?
 
Does it provoke a rethink of taboos or simply provoke disgust? All the examples below caused a stir and were removed or relocated. The Paris sculptures fared the best, both stayed on display in prominent places (Pompidou Centre and Place Vendome) for some time.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...holm-residents

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...pictureid=3566

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...olina-falkholt

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...pictureid=3567

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...liv-stromquist

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...pictureid=3570

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...french-capital

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...pictureid=3569

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...pictureid=3568

Brillopad 14-04-2018 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9958654)

I would say it has as much to do with simply not being very artistic. Neither of those demonstrate any talent in my opinion just some jerk courting controversy.

Smithy 14-04-2018 11:59 AM

It’s all natural (aside from the butt plug, I don’t see the point in that one) why are people getting pissy about what nature gave them?

Oliver_W 14-04-2018 12:00 PM

Like most Modern Art, it's just crap.

Twosugars 14-04-2018 12:04 PM

Edit to the original post:
Actually, the drawing of the menstruating skater was a part of a series of images, one entitled “It’s Alright (I’m Only Bleeding)”. They were not removed and stayed on display in the Stockholm metro for the duration despite protests.

Twosugars 14-04-2018 12:07 PM

But regardless of artistic merit, does it serve a useful purpose or not? Does it provoke a reevaluation of taboos or simply provokes without any positive contribution?

bots 14-04-2018 12:10 PM

Everyone's opinion of what constitutes art is different. I personally don't see a need for it, but it doesn't shock me. People should be allowed freedom of expression if its not hurting anyone :shrug:

Twosugars 14-04-2018 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9958656)
I would say it has as much to do with simply not being very artistic. Neither of those demonstrate any talent in my opinion just some jerk courting controversy.

Re. talent, it's all subjective these days, but I thought the cock was reasonably well painted.

Beso 14-04-2018 02:16 PM

Did they need permission for this?

Hi sorry but im an artist interested in sticking a 50ft cock on the side of your building.....oui oui..go ahead its what we have as our national animal.

Maru 14-04-2018 02:29 PM

I think the idea of these murals are unoriginal, but that's my problem with most contemporary art. Most are copy cats or just an cheap easy way to grab eyeballs. Sad but true, but innovation and the "core message" is usually lost for the sake of being attention seeking.

The "out of the box" quality is simply the use/replication of those images in "forbidden" areas... except in this case, it's not even out of the box. Urban areas are more likely than other places to be associated with "obscene" and "dirty", something the phallus would be associated with, so actually it's fitting in with the "theme" so to speak.

I'd be maybe more impressed if they managed to integrate these in an some inguity and not just the most offensive way. That's too easy. Like can you imagine if the artist arranged with some Tibetan monks to let you draw some crazy images inside their temple, some totally unexpected artwork that really makes people see&think... basically, something that would be less silly and a whole lot less trite.

jaxie 14-04-2018 02:36 PM

I don't find it particularly offensive personally, nor particularly artistic, but it is a very public place and I can see that exposing small children to visual displays of an erect adult penis it not very appropriate.

chuff me dizzy 14-04-2018 03:01 PM

I don't want to explain to my children what the pervy art is ,no theres a time and place for everything

Brillopad 14-04-2018 03:06 PM

I think many men over-estimate the interest in their bits. Who cares?

Kazanne 14-04-2018 03:07 PM

How can that be called art,I mean really what artistic merit does it have,hell even a kid can draw a willy:shrug: It's just needless.

Brillopad 14-04-2018 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9958843)
How can that be called art,I mean really what artistic merit does it have,hell even a kid can draw a willy:shrug: It's just needless.

Don’t some men think having a willy makes them God-like! :hee:

chuff me dizzy 14-04-2018 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9958851)
Don’t some men think having a willy makes them God-like! :hee:

They sure do :joker:

Brillopad 14-04-2018 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9958853)
They sure do :joker:

More fool them! :hehe:

Kazanne 14-04-2018 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9958851)
Don’t some men think having a willy makes them God-like! :hee:

Shame a lot of them have no idea how to use it:hehe::laugh:

Beso 14-04-2018 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9958894)
Shame a lot of them have no idea how to use it:hehe::laugh:

:inamood:

Twosugars 14-04-2018 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9958758)
Did they need permission for this?

Hi sorry but im an artist interested in sticking a 50ft cock on the side of your building.....oui oui..go ahead its what we have as our national animal.

Sure, all works had necessary permissions. The cock was in New York first (pink one) and then in Stockholm (blue one), not in France

Twosugars 14-04-2018 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9958851)
Don’t some men think having a willy makes them God-like! :hee:

Actually, the cock is the work by a female Swedish artist.
It is snappily titled "F u c k the World"

Crimson Dynamo 14-04-2018 05:55 PM

Just idiots trying to show off behind the guise of "art"

same old

same old

Kazanne 14-04-2018 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9958905)
:inamood:

:laugh:Of course I don't mean the GENTS on Tibb.:smug:

Brillopad 14-04-2018 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9958894)
Shame a lot of them have no idea how to use it:hehe::laugh:

I’ve often said the bigger the ego, the smaller the willy! It’s called over-compensating! :hehe:

Twosugars 14-04-2018 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 9958783)
I think the idea of these murals are unoriginal, but that's my problem with most contemporary art. Most are copy cats or just an cheap easy way to grab eyeballs. Sad but true, but innovation and the "core message" is usually lost for the sake of being attention seeking.

The "out of the box" quality is simply the use/replication of those images in "forbidden" areas... except in this case, it's not even out of the box. Urban areas are more likely than other places to be associated with "obscene" and "dirty", something the phallus would be associated with, so actually it's fitting in with the "theme" so to speak.

I'd be maybe more impressed if they managed to integrate these in an some inguity and not just the most offensive way. That's too easy. Like can you imagine if the artist arranged with some Tibetan monks to let you draw some crazy images inside their temple, some totally unexpected artwork that really makes people see&think... basically, something that would be less silly and a whole lot less trite.

While I'm not defending those pieces (don't have a view really) only the cock in NYC was in what you call it dirty area.
Butt plug was in Place Vendome, one of the most prestigious squares in Paris. The copulating duo was meant to be in the courtyard of the Louvre, but the director chickened out at the last moment so it ended up in front of the Pompidou Centre.
The disconcerting detail about the copulators is that it is unclear whether it is man and woman or man and animal.
Re. your idea of placing provocative art in religious spaces, they tend to be very conservative and quite often only public spaces managed by secular authorities like some buildings or squares are willing to take a risk.


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