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reece(: 26-07-2018 05:56 AM

Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars
 
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Researchers have found evidence of an existing body of liquid water on Mars.

What they believe to be a lake sits under the planet's south polar ice cap, and is about 20km (12 miles) across.

Previous research found possible signs of intermittent liquid water flowing on the martian surface, but this is the first sign of a persistent body of water on the planet in the present day.

Lake beds like those explored by Nasa's Curiosity rover show water was present on the surface of Mars in the past.

However, the planet's climate has since cooled due to its thin atmosphere, leaving most of its water locked up in ice.

The result is exciting because scientists have long searched for signs of present-day liquid water on Mars, but these have come up empty or yielded ambiguous findings. It will also interest those studying the possibilities for life beyond Earth - though it does not yet raise the stakes in the search for biology.

The discovery was made using Marsis, a radar instrument on board the European Space Agency's (Esa) Mars Express orbiter.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cp..._sp_cap_50.jpg

"It's probably not a very large lake," said Prof Roberto Orosei from the Italian National Institute for Astrophysics, who led the study.

Marsis wasn't able to determine how thick the layer of water might be, but the research team estimate that it is a minimum of one metre.

"This really qualifies this as a body of water. A lake, not some kind of meltwater filling some space between rock and ice, as happens in certain glaciers on Earth," Prof Orosei added.

How was it found?
Radar instruments like Marsis examine the surface and immediate subsurface of the planet by sending out a signal and examining what is bounced back.

The continuous white line at the top of the radar results above marks the beginning of the South Polar Layered Deposit; a filo pastry-like accumulation of water ice and dust.

Beneath this, researchers spotted something unusual 1.5km under the ice.

"In light blue you can see where the reflections from the bottom are stronger than surface reflection. This is something that is to us the tell tale sign of the presence of water," says Prof Orosei.

What does this mean for life?
Nothing definitive. Yet.

Dr Manish Patel from the Open University explained: "We have long since known that the surface of Mars is inhospitable to life as we know it, so the search for life on Mars is now in the subsurface.

"This is where we get sufficient protection from harmful radiation, and the pressure and temperature rise to more favourable levels. Most importantly, this allows liquid water, essential for life."

This principle of following the water is key to astrobiology - the study of potential life beyond Earth.

So while the findings suggest water is present, they don't confirm anything further.

"We are not closer to actually detecting life," Dr Patel told BBC News, "but what this finding does is give us the location of where to look on Mars. It is like a treasure map - except in this case, there will be lots of 'X's marking the spots."

The water's temperature and chemistry could also pose a problem for any potential martian organisms.

In order to remain liquid in such cold conditions (the research team estimate between -10 and -30 Celsius where it meets the ice above), the water likely has a great many salts dissolved in it.

"It's plausible that the water may be an extremely cold, concentrated brine, which would be pretty challenging for life," explained Dr Claire Cousins, an astrobiologist from the University of St Andrews, UK.

What next?
While its existence provides a tantalising prospect for those interested in the possibility of past or present life on Mars, the lake's characteristics must first be verified by further research.

"What needs to be done now," explained Dr Matt Balme from the Open University, "is for the measurements to be repeated elsewhere to look for similar signals, and, if possible, for all other explanation to be examined and - hopefully - ruled out.

"Maybe this could even be the trigger for an ambitious new Mars mission to drill into this buried water-pocket - like has been done for sub-glacial lakes in Antarctica on Earth," he added.

Scientists have previously claimed to find bacterial life in the buried depths of Antarctica's Lake Vostok, but drilling on Mars would make for an ambitious project indeed.

"Getting there and acquiring the final evidence that this is indeed a lake will not be an easy task," said Prof Orosei.

"It will require flying a robot there which is capable of drilling through 1.5km of ice. This will certainly require some technological developments that at the moment are not available."

The findings were reported in Science.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44952710
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Mystic Mock 26-07-2018 06:10 AM

Mars fascinates me so much.

My theory with Mars is that they used to have a society (of what species I have no idea) and their own Technology ended up wiping them out because they used up nearly all of their natural resources, on top of probably a few wars. It would also explain why there used to be a different temperature on Mars in the past and why there's Water on the planet, it was to support life that was on there but sadly have been wiped out.

Crimson Dynamo 26-07-2018 06:45 AM

not liquid water

Nicky91 26-07-2018 06:47 AM

where there's water, there could be life then on Mars

okay this is a huge breakthrough for that theory on Mars, if there could be life

Northern Monkey 26-07-2018 08:56 AM

Awesome.I remember for years they were pondering if water could be there and the ramifications if there was and how exciting it would be.

michael21 26-07-2018 09:00 AM

We need more water in the UK it must rain

Crimson Dynamo 26-07-2018 09:02 AM

did you know that some times Mars is closest to earth

sometimes its Venus


and sometimes its Mercury :omgno:

Nicky91 26-07-2018 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by michael21 (Post 10108597)
We need more water in the UK it must rain

well rain will come eventually i guess, but this heat shows how much we appreciate the rain as well, how much we miss it now

Saph 26-07-2018 10:45 AM

Nicky shaking because they've discovered her homeland?

Cal. 26-07-2018 10:47 AM

I just don’t get how on one planet there could only be one lake of water which may only be a meters deep. Weird. Fascinating though.

arista 26-07-2018 10:50 AM

Little fish
may appear , in later years

RileyH 26-07-2018 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10108502)
not liquid water

:joker:

Niamh. 26-07-2018 11:10 AM

There could be a really advanced but tiny civilization living near the lake but we can't see them because they're so small and that lake could be like a massive ocean to them :think:

Crimson Dynamo 26-07-2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10108743)
There could be a really advanced but tiny civilization living near the lake but we can't see them because they're so small and that lake could be like a massive ocean to them :think:

I think we should nuke the whole thing to be on the safe side

Glenn. 26-07-2018 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10108743)
There could be a really advanced but tiny civilization living near the lake but we can't see them because they're so small and that lake could be like a massive ocean to them :think:

Borrowers, their home world?

Niamh. 26-07-2018 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10108773)
Borrowers, their home world?

Could be :laugh:

for all we know earth and mars etc could be all situated in some giants toilet bowl :think:

Jordan. 26-07-2018 01:49 PM

Not Mars getting ready to snatch Earth as the main pop planet

https://78.media.tumblr.com/29db68df...l99po6_250.gif

Maru 26-07-2018 05:37 PM

I wouldn't be for colonizing Mars if in place of learning to take care of our own yard first... but then, I guess it wouldn't be a bad thing in some ways.. Mars would beat our *ss senseless... teach humanity some basic humility for a change. The wilderness does that... and I think if we do learn to survive there on basic rations/life-support, we can probably learn to survive here with less of a problem... so from that perspective only, do I support it.

Anyway our understanding of Mars seems to be ever-changing.


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