Originally Posted by Jules82 (Post 10322113)

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Wasnt aware there were any criminals on the show, do you have proof if not it is rather libellous to say such a thing, knowing it was meant to be for a present HM. The posts are read.

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10322212)

Lewis admitted in his VT when he entered the house he had criminal convictions for theft and arson.

Originally Posted by Jules82 (Post 10322130)

All the sniping Ifs, so if you have proof of your words, which I only get the gist of, too much to read sensibly, present it. You will find that no matter what his loyal fans will stand by him. The fact that BB stood up for him says a lot. The fact that his family are with him, says a lot, they wouldnt risk any untrue comments, they would just keep quiet.

He is the eventual true favourite outside the house no matter what, any winner now will be second best and win on his shirt tails. Hopefully it will be Cameron. Also if one thinks that the bookies and powers that be cannot do the dirty, you are wrong it has been done many times, it is all about money. This is why I never count my chickens.

Cameron to win..

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper (Post 10322450)

:joker: That's the typical response from certain supporters of a Lewser. "At least everyone knows he/she was the real winner" No, everyone doesn't know that. Everyone knows that's what certain upset and furious fans tell themselves, somehow believing that presenting any type of nonsensical hollow victory will ease the pain. Masking reality will get you nowhere. :smug: The reality is Lewser Lewis was kicked off the show for expressing UNACCEPTABLE language/views.

Yes, fake "litte bro" Cam to win. Make me some money :laugh:

Originally Posted by Clown (Post 10322124)

If you bet on a wonky donkey you can't really complain when it decides to suddenly bolt head first into the nearest hedge

Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 10322165)

This thread is basically saying that BB should never eject people lol...


What kind of logic

Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 10323099)

Wrong.

This thread is saying that if you eject people then you need to show the paying public WHY you are ejecting them.

I challenge anyone to tell me that is an unreasonable view.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10323167)

They've ejected him so that Cameron can win and push their right wing agenda for one final time before Ch5 sell the show to Netflix/Ch4.

Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 10323168)

Their right wing agenda? What in God's name are you talking about? Is there anyone who works in television, especially reality television who is right wing? Most of them are homosexuals for starters. They were elated when Courtney Act won over Ann Widdecombe earlier this year.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10323169)

Ch5 BB has worshipped Housemates with far right wing views such as Katie Hopkins.

Thankfully the public rebelled against those types of Housemates most years, but you do get the odd Jim Davidson victories on this show that disgusts me personally.

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper (Post 10322075)

That is utter nonsense. Firstly, in mickey mouse, low-turnover events such as this, bookies liabilities could never get out of control. Secondly, if their book did become heavily unbalanced, ask yourself why he only briefly went slight odds-on..and remained backable @ evs or above? At no point was he cut drastically to odds which suggested he was 75-90% likely to win(which has happened many times in the past) even though that's the ridiculous impression his fanatical supporters were giving..like he had it sewn up, "in the bag". The simple truth is his win was anything but "in the bag". He had a 50-50 chance at best. That chance might have increased with the favoured editing in the home stretch, but it's no certainty that it wouldn't have decreased. Worthy or not, "favs" are there to be beaten..and many times we'll see just that. I remember that bitch Katie Hopkins being heavy odds-on fav to win her series,, and what happened? KP(who was readily available to back around 4/1) ran all over her. More recently, the last I checked on the US odds, douchebag Tyler was 2/5. And we all know what happened there :pat:

Lastly, bookies are independent firms. They have no say/sway on the outcome of any event(from non-affiliated organizations) they've decided to accept bets on.

The simple fact is Lewser said something disgusting enough warrant the boot. We don't have to be shown, or know specifically what he said. His acceptance of it, his apology(as forced and insincere as it was) is enough to tell us even HE KNOWS they had him bang to rights. Add to that Brooke's look(when being told of his expulsion) which said "yep, I knew it. I knew he wouldn't get away with that. I knew they'd remove him for saying something so abhorrent"..

So, his supporters need to wise the **** up and realise that he(and they - as loyal supporters of 1 giant ego that almost certainly views them as inferior peasants..) have actually been let off the hook by omitting his repugnant views.

What we can say is, IF he'd been a more likeable character, IF he'd shown some class, IF he'd shown a humbleness, IF he'd got out of his own ass long enough to take other perspectives on board, IF he hadn't shown a desire to control everything and everyone around him, IF he hand't been a petulant little bitch, IF he hand't been treating the show and the rest of the competition like they were all beneath him etc.. there's a fair chance that any such repugnant "slip of the tongue" might just have been swept under the rug. As it was, it allowed the decision maker/s(who obviously aren't impressed by the moron) to give him the chop..and have zero guilt over not doing him any favour.

Originally Posted by Clown (Post 10322124)

If you bet on a wonky donkey you can't really complain when it decides to suddenly bolt head first into the nearest hedge

Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 10323168)

Their right wing agenda? What in God's name are you talking about? Is there anyone who works in television, especially reality television who is right wing? Most of them are homosexuals for starters. They were elated when Courtney Act won over Ann Widdecombe earlier this year.

Originally Posted by Garfie (Post 10323206)

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Excellent post, Pro-sniper. You are spot on with every point you make here about Lewis and about bookies.

The only way I differ is that I feel the incident should have been shown, even if words needed to be bleeped out. This view has nothing to do with money or voting for me, but is more to do with the fact that viewers have invested in the series by watching it every night for weeks, and I feel that deserves transparency regarding what happened.

Like you, though, I do agree that it would probably be to Lewis' detriment if the truth was revealed.

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper (Post 10322450)

:joker: That's the typical response from certain supporters of a Lewser. "At least everyone knows he/she was the real winner" No, everyone doesn't know that. Everyone knows that's what certain upset and furious fans tell themselves, somehow believing that presenting any type of nonsensical hollow victory will ease the pain. Masking reality will get you nowhere. :smug: The reality is Lewser Lewis was kicked off the show for expressing UNACCEPTABLE language/views.

Yes, fake "litte bro" Cam to win. Make me some money :laugh:

Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 10323179)

That's two housemates. Hopkins (who is not "far right" btw) was not "worshipped" by anyone and was almost certainly disliked by most of the production team who nevertheless understood her to be a good housemate. Davidson was an old fashioned comedian who made a name for himself in the 70s and 80s when the jokes we find "offensive" today were standard fare. He was probably the last of those older comedians to still be on television in the 90s. He was always likely to be the runaway winner because of the profile he once had and his lack of competition.

How a show that has consistently promoted every fashionable cause of the liberal progressive left over the years can be said to be promoting a right wing agenda is beyond me. The reason they like Cameron as a winner is probably because (1) he's the same age as the show and (2) he's a "journey" housemate who came out as gay during his time in there. The only thing "right wing" about him is that he doesn't like feminism much and admires Winston Churchill.

I would add also that there is evidence that the production team fought to keep Lewis in and that it was Channel 5 who made the decision to kick him out. That rings true to me because of the decisions that have helped Lewis stay in longer than he might otherwise have done up until he said whatever he said.