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ThriceShy 29-10-2018 02:45 AM

People have paid money to keep Lewis in
 
So how can they get away with just ditching him and not showing us why. Doesn't there need to be transparency when money is changing hands?

Think about it, he could have been getting warnings for weeks but they might have kept him for revenue then jettisoned him before the final week to allow their chosen winner to romp home.

I don't vote. But if I had voted for Lewis then I would want answers.

Elliot 29-10-2018 02:46 AM

how is it big brothers fault that lewis is a moron

ThriceShy 29-10-2018 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10321067)
how is it big brothers fault that lewis is a moron

It isn't.

My point is that a paying public should be allowed to see the reason he was ejected because some voted to keep him in.

I couldn't stand him by the way. I just think the secrecy issue is important.

GoldHeart 29-10-2018 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10321067)
how is it big brothers fault that lewis is a moron

I only half agree with you Elliot , yes Lewis was an overbearing idiot . But BB still SHOULD of shown us WHY he got removed .

I keep wondering if he got previous warnings now aswell , even the night when him & Cameron jumped in the pool when it was pelting down with rain and Lewis kept ignoring BB .

vesavius 29-10-2018 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10321067)
how is it big brothers fault that lewis is a moron

This

JerseyWins 29-10-2018 03:01 AM

I think this is more of an issue/conspiracy/problem with the betting than the people paying/voting to keep him in. Could've been too many bets placed on Lewis F and he was just rigged out for the bookies. :shrug:

ThriceShy 29-10-2018 03:01 AM

Imagine you voted for a housemate over the course of a series and spent maybe £20 or more or whatever. Would you be happy that they were just secretly ejected Kafka style with no reasons given?

I contend that people who paid to keep Lewis in are owed an explanation.

And it doesn't matter which housemate it is. It just happens to be Lewis but the same would apply to all of them.

vesavius 29-10-2018 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins (Post 10321073)
I think this is more of an issue/conspiracy/problem with the betting than the people paying/voting to keep him in. Could've been too many bets placed on Lewis F and he was just rigged out for the bookies. :shrug:

oh, gawd, no

Withano 29-10-2018 05:08 AM

Not strictly true @title, and even if it was, they only paid for him to stay until the next eviction/ejection.

tanussa 29-10-2018 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 10321065)
So how can they get away with just ditching him and not showing us why. Doesn't there need to be transparency when money is changing hands?

Think about it, he could have been getting warnings for weeks but they might have kept him for revenue then jettisoned him before the final week to allow their chosen winner to romp home.

I don't vote. But if I had voted for Lewis then I would want answers.

was thinking exactly the same, in fact I have written to ch5 giving those exact reasons why they should atleast tell us why they ejected lewis without giving him a warning. they should not keep the fans in the dark when we are spending our well earned cash on voting. poor vanessa has paid a small fortune in order to keep lewis in, only to have him chucked out a week later, no reason given, its not on.

bitontheslide 29-10-2018 06:36 AM

i paid good money to keep Lewis G in, but look where that got me :shrug:

thisisdanny 29-10-2018 06:36 AM

It's vote to evict not save. So they haven't paid money to keep him in, they've just paid to see other people leave.

thesheriff443 29-10-2018 06:39 AM

Fools and their money are easily parted.

You all need to get a life and stop going on about a show that died years ago.

Reality to game show, and that’s it’s death.

Cherie 29-10-2018 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 10321065)
So how can they get away with just ditching him and not showing us why. Doesn't there need to be transparency when money is changing hands?

Think about it, he could have been getting warnings for weeks but they might have kept him for revenue then jettisoned him before the final week to allow their chosen winner to romp home.

I don't vote. But if I had voted for Lewis then I would want answers.

People voted to evict Lewis, nobody voted to save him

Toy Soldier 29-10-2018 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins (Post 10321073)
I think this is more of an issue/conspiracy/problem with the betting than the people paying/voting to keep him in. Could've been too many bets placed on Lewis F and he was just rigged out for the bookies. :shrug:

Its not a big betting event, there's nowhere near enough money involved in reality TV betting for it to be worth rigging. Plus Lewis was favourite for weeks, and in general, it's GOOD for bookies if the favourite wins. It's not like he was sitting at 50/1 with money being piled on and then suddenly became favourite.

Cherie 29-10-2018 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tanussa (Post 10321113)
was thinking exactly the same, in fact I have written to ch5 giving those exact reasons why they should atleast tell us why they ejected lewis without giving him a warning. they should not keep the fans in the dark when we are spending our well earned cash on voting. poor vanessa has paid a small fortune in order to keep lewis in, only to have him chucked out a week later, no reason given, its not on.



:joker:

chuff me dizzy 29-10-2018 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 10321065)
So how can they get away with just ditching him and not showing us why. Doesn't there need to be transparency when money is changing hands?

Think about it, he could have been getting warnings for weeks but they might have kept him for revenue then jettisoned him before the final week to allow their chosen winner to romp home.

I don't vote. But if I had voted for Lewis then I would want answers.

Totally agree, its disrespect to the voters

chuff me dizzy 29-10-2018 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10321118)
People voted to evict Lewis, nobody voted to save him

I paid to vote to evict the people he was up against

Cherie 29-10-2018 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10321176)
I paid to vote to evict the people he was up against

you could have been saving any of the housemates up for eviction though, not just him, you cannot direct your money to save a specific housemate in vote to evict, if you target one housemate to evict, you are effectively saving the others who are up

Babayaro. 29-10-2018 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10321176)
I paid to vote to evict the people he was up against

So if those people who you voted to evict were to return as housemates then you would have something to complain about.

Amy Jade 29-10-2018 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10321176)
I paid to vote to evict the people he was up against

You wasted your money in the long run.

Just as most of us have at some point.

joeysteele 29-10-2018 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10321114)
i paid good money to keep Lewis G in, but look where that got me :shrug:

He was thrown out by the public.
A major difference.

No matter the housemate, we should be told at least, if not shown the incident, why any supporters lose the housemate they kind of sponsor really via their time and cost of votes to keep them in.

Since this is something he said, as you stated rightly, they could bleep the offending word out.
As viewers on BB, where the idea is, we look in on a collection of people thrown together, to see them and how they react, and say and do the things they do.
We should have far more information on an ejection, immaterial of whichever housemate is ejected, than we have had here.

The housemates know, BB knows, channel 5 know, since it's not a criminal matter or one for any authorities..
Then we should be told more fully and know too.

joeysteele 29-10-2018 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10321176)
I paid to vote to evict the people he was up against

Totally right.
You, myself and hoards of others likely, voted to evict as you say, those up against him.

That is actually spending money to 'save' Lewis, that's a fact.

Thereby we spent time and money voting to protect his place in the house.

Others can spin it any way they like chuff, that's how it was.
Just as if he was still there now, we'd be spending time and money on him to win.

jaxie 29-10-2018 08:56 AM

I paid good money to get Lewis out when he was up for eviction. I didn't get anything for that at the time either. :shrug:

chuff me dizzy 29-10-2018 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10321219)
Totally right.
You, myself and hoards of others likely, voted to evict as you say, those up against him.

That is actually spending money to 'save' Lewis, that's a fact.

Thereby we spent time and money voting to protect his place in the house.

Others can spin it any way they like chuff, that's how it was.
Just as if he was still there now, we'd be spending time and money on him to win.

Yes it is .. But we have the knowledge that the PUBLIC didn't evict Lewis BB did

joeysteele 29-10-2018 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 10321229)
I paid good money to get Lewis out when he was up for eviction. I didn't get anything for that at the time either. :shrug:

Yes jaxie, however it was all the other voting public who thwarted your attempts there.
Not just BB themselves.

No one is saying he shouldn't have been ejected if it was grossly offensive.
They should just show us what they made the decision on and show us the incident.

A reverse of the Pallet, Ryan incident.
When without the footage, he'd have been destroyed, however they showed it all.

Just show us the few seconds or minutes incident.
Treat us like we are able to see what's wrong for ourselves.
OR, what are they hiding from us.

Cherie 29-10-2018 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10321240)
Yes jaxie, however it was all the other voting public who thwarted your attempts there.
Not just BB themselves.

No one is saying he shouldn't have been ejected if it was grossly offensive.
They should just show us what they made the decision on and show us the incident.

A reverse of the Pallet, Ryan incident.
When without the footage, he'd have been destroyed, however they showed it all.

Just show us the few seconds or minutes incident.
Treat us like we are able to see what's wrong for ourselves.
OR, what are they hiding from us.

If they were hiding anything, or his ejection was unjust, Lewis would be telling us all about it, I think they are protecting him more than anything

bitontheslide 29-10-2018 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10321205)
He was thrown out by the public.
A major difference.

No matter the housemate, we should be told at least, if not shown the incident, why any supporters lose the housemate they kind of sponsor really via their time and cost of votes to keep them in.

Since this is something he said, as you stated rightly, they could bleep the offending word out.
As viewers on BB, where the idea is, we look in on a collection of people thrown together, to see them and how they react, and say and do the things they do.
We should have far more information on an ejection, immaterial of whichever housemate is ejected, than we have had here.

The housemates know, BB knows, channel 5 know, since it's not a criminal matter or one for any authorities..
Then we should be told more fully and know too.

all we know for sure is that Lewis admitted responsibility for saying something that wasn't acceptable. I struggle with it a lot really, because there have been loads of instances where he said things previously that I found unacceptable, and not a single warning was shown. BB didn't show it, broadcast it, so I'm kind of at a loss. I think back to all the live feed we used to have where people discussed all sorts of things, some of them quite libelous if aired, and all they did was apply some bird noises. No drama, no nothing .... i'm at a loss really

joeysteele 29-10-2018 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10321243)
If they were hiding anything, or his ejection was unjust, Lewis would be telling us all about it, I think they are protecting him more than anything

He may not legally be able to say anything if BB haven't.
You hear from evictees in the past, are they allowed to say this or that.

All were told to, it seemed, to keep quiet re Jay putting his mess in the freezer.
We'd never have known that but for some evictees slipping up and saying it.

Vanessa 29-10-2018 10:09 AM

The secrecy is wrong. They should show what happened and let us judge the situation. Because they haven't done that, i refuse to watch anymore until they do.

Amy Jade 29-10-2018 10:21 AM

41 series and you don't grasp that voting is basically a gamble...plenty of us lost money in the long run.

Amy Jade 29-10-2018 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 10321296)
The secrecy is wrong. They should show what happened and let us judge the situation. Because they haven't done that, i refuse to watch anymore until they do.

Doubt they're arsed as it is cancelled anyway.

rionablue 29-10-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 10321065)
So how can they get away with just ditching him and not showing us why. Doesn't there need to be transparency when money is changing hands?

Think about it, he could have been getting warnings for weeks but they might have kept him for revenue then jettisoned him before the final week to allow their chosen winner to romp home.

I don't vote. But if I had voted for Lewis then I would want answers.

We don't often agree on here ThriceShy but in this we do. I cannot remember any incident where someone was removed and we didn't see the clip of what happened to get them removed or found out why they were removed It is very very strange that the public haven't been shown or told the real reason why he was removed. I would be furious if I had spent a lot of money(and I know ppl who did) to keep him in

ThriceShy 29-10-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10321118)
People voted to evict Lewis, nobody voted to save him



People voted to evict his opponents in order to save him.

Amy Jade 29-10-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 10321460)
People voted to evict his opponents in order to save him.

Your mistake.

ThriceShy 29-10-2018 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10321307)
41 series and you don't grasp that voting is basically a gamble...plenty of us lost money in the long run.

Voting is not a gamble. Remember the trouble caused when Nikki was put back in. When money is involved there has to be clarity regarding evictions and ejections.

ThriceShy 29-10-2018 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10321463)
Your mistake.


Yes I should never have been such a staunch Lewis fan....

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...16&postcount=9

:joker:

poppsywoppsy 29-10-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rionablue (Post 10321446)
We don't often agree on here ThriceShy but in this we do. I cannot remember any incident where someone was removed and we didn't see the clip of what happened to get them removed or found out why they were removed It is very very strange that the public haven't been shown or told the real reason why he was removed. I would be furious if I had spent a lot of money(and I know ppl who did) to keep him in

Well I can and in the very last CBB with Rodrigo.:shrug:

sungrass 29-10-2018 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 10321074)
Imagine you voted for a housemate over the course of a series and spent maybe £20 or more or whatever. Would you be happy that they were just secretly ejected Kafka style with no reasons given?

I contend that people who paid to keep Lewis in are owed an explanation.

And it doesn't matter which housemate it is. It just happens to be Lewis but the same would apply to all of them.

Agree with you -

We should get better transparency and if not we shouldn't vote. They only know through their pockets.

Cant stand the competition either - 5 mins every highlight show that takes up - who enters these things? If you add up 5 mins everyday for two months its a waste of time.

Pro Sniper 29-10-2018 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins (Post 10321073)
I think this is more of an issue/conspiracy/problem with the betting than the people paying/voting to keep him in. Could've been too many bets placed on Lewis F and he was just rigged out for the bookies. :shrug:

That is utter nonsense. Firstly, in mickey mouse, low-turnover events such as this, bookies liabilities could never get out of control. Secondly, if their book did become heavily unbalanced, ask yourself why he only briefly went slight odds-on..and remained backable @ evs or above? At no point was he cut drastically to odds which suggested he was 75-90% likely to win(which has happened many times in the past) even though that's the ridiculous impression his fanatical supporters were giving..like he had it sewn up, "in the bag". The simple truth is his win was anything but "in the bag". He had a 50-50 chance at best. That chance might have increased with the favoured editing in the home stretch, but it's no certainty that it wouldn't have decreased. Worthy or not, "favs" are there to be beaten..and many times we'll see just that. I remember that bitch Katie Hopkins being heavy odds-on fav to win her series,, and what happened? KP(who was readily available to back around 4/1) ran all over her. More recently, the last I checked on the US odds, douchebag Tyler was 2/5. And we all know what happened there :pat:

Lastly, bookies are independent firms. They have no say/sway on the outcome of any event(from non-affiliated organizations) they've decided to accept bets on.

The simple fact is Lewser said something disgusting enough warrant the boot. We don't have to be shown, or know specifically what he said. His acceptance of it, his apology(as forced and insincere as it was) is enough to tell us even HE KNOWS they had him bang to rights. Add to that Brooke's look(when being told of his expulsion) which said "yep, I knew it. I knew he wouldn't get away with that. I knew they'd remove him for saying something so abhorrent"..

So, his supporters need to wise the **** up and realise that he(and they - as loyal supporters of 1 giant ego that almost certainly views them as inferior peasants..) have actually been let off the hook by omitting his repugnant views.

What we can say is, IF he'd been a more likeable character, IF he'd shown some class, IF he'd shown a humbleness, IF he'd got out of his own ass long enough to take other perspectives on board, IF he hadn't shown a desire to control everything and everyone around him, IF he hand't been a petulant little bitch, IF he hand't been treating the show and the rest of the competition like they were all beneath him etc.. there's a fair chance that any such repugnant "slip of the tongue" might just have been swept under the rug. As it was, it allowed the decision maker/s(who obviously aren't impressed by the moron) to give him the chop..and have zero guilt over not doing him any favour.


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