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Maru 17-11-2018 08:03 PM

Why Are Young People Having So Little Sex?
 
Very good article from the Atlantic. It's very long so I recommend reading it on their site instead of here.

Source: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ession/573949/

Exherpt:

Quote:

Why Are Young People Having So Little Sex?
Despite the easing of taboos and the rise of hookup apps, Americans are in the midst of a sex recession.

https://i.imgur.com/KMahMjC.png


These should be boom times for sex.

The share of Americans who say sex between unmarried adults is “not wrong at all” is at an all-time high. New cases of HIV are at an all-time low. Most women can—at last—get birth control for free, and the morning-after pill without a prescription.

If hookups are your thing, Grindr and Tinder offer the prospect of casual sex within the hour. The phrase If something exists, there is porn of it used to be a clever internet meme; now it’s a truism. BDSM plays at the local multiplex—but why bother going? Sex is portrayed, often graphically and sometimes gorgeously, on prime-time cable. Sexting is, statistically speaking, normal.

Polyamory is a household word. Shame-laden terms like perversion have given way to cheerful-sounding ones like kink. Anal sex has gone from final taboo to “fifth base”—Teen Vogue (yes, Teen Vogue) even ran a guide to it. With the exception of perhaps incest and bestiality—and of course nonconsensual sex more generally—our culture has never been more tolerant of sex in just about every permutation.
But despite all this, American teenagers and young adults are having less sex.

...read more

Cal. 17-11-2018 08:07 PM

I’m busy!

Smithy 17-11-2018 08:12 PM

People used to have sex bc there was nothing else to do, we’ve got the world at our fingers what do we need sex for!

Amy Jade 17-11-2018 08:15 PM

I'd rather have a rub

RileyH 17-11-2018 08:16 PM

We're not slags

Ant. 17-11-2018 09:02 PM

Once you've done it once, why do it again? With an entire world to explore and careers to pursue there is no point in treading over the same ground twice

MB. 17-11-2018 09:04 PM

Brexit tbh

LeatherTrumpet 17-11-2018 09:09 PM

When I was their age I would bang a crack in a barbers floor, the lazy brats. If I didn't have a host of good books to read on the kindle I'd show them a thing or two.

Disgusting filth

Maru 17-11-2018 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10350575)
People used to have sex bc there was nothing else to do, we’ve got the world at our fingers what do we need sex for!

Pro-creation :spin:

Constant stimulation though is not really a good thing imo. We need to be bored at least some of the time in order to force the mind to become more innovative. Otherwise, we just tend to regurgitate more, and our attitudes/thoughts become really repetitive... this is bad if we are facing some mental health crisis of some kind.

So yeah, sex is not as important as the mags make it... but... the lack of it may suggest a decline in connection wtih the world around us. Though I think some people are genetically pre-disposed to not see the world in a sexy way, and that's not really up for debate I think...

Maru 17-11-2018 09:10 PM

On the other hand (ha), it's lead to a decline in teenage birth rates which can only be a good thing... Farrah Abraham did that?

Barry. 17-11-2018 09:11 PM

Sex sounds boring tbh.

Maru 17-11-2018 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry. (Post 10350651)
Sex sounds boring tbh.

We're supposed to do a little bit more than listen during it I think. :laugh:

But to your point:


LeatherTrumpet 17-11-2018 09:14 PM

Maybe porn did it?

Maru 17-11-2018 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10350654)
Maybe porn did it?

From the article:

Quote:

The internet has made it so easy to gratify basic social and sexual needs that there’s far less incentive to go out into the “meatworld” and chase those things. This isn’t to say that the internet can give you more satisfaction than sex or relationships, because it doesn’t … [But it can] supply you with just enough satisfaction to placate those imperatives … I think it’s healthy to ask yourself: “If I didn’t have any of this, would I be going out more? Would I be having sex more?” For a lot of people my age, I think the answer is probably yes.

lime 17-11-2018 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 10350656)
From the article:

Hm it is long maru but as someone who has been raped as a child in south africa ....somethings about this disturb me


60% of adults under the age of 35 accorrding to this live with their parents..for me that is not true in ireland or South Africa.


Rates of childhood abuse have deceases in recent decades...


I again have to disagee.


i know I will be called a feminazi.....For me it hasn't decreased ...but it is now called "banter" and sure the lad was only trying to cop a feel.Will look into this further Maru and those behind it

Marsh. 17-11-2018 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10350575)
People used to have sex bc there was nothing else to do, we’ve got the world at our fingers what do we need sex for!

*looks at George with his balls the size of bowling balls*

Toy Soldier 17-11-2018 10:34 PM

The obvious answer is that there's now limitless other varieties of distraction / entertainment, available on demand 24/7. Mobile Internet, YouTube/Netflix, games have come on exponentially, online gaming (Call of Duty etc., now Fortnite)... Less in-person social interaction in general thanks to technology. A decline in physical contact is inevitable.

I'm in two minds about whether it's a good or bad thing really. Probably a good thing if it's just that kids are having less random sex just because they're bored, but a bad thing if it's because they're not forming as many actual relationships and thus not bothered about physical contact.

I was a good wee boy when I was a teenager, I didn't have sex until I was in a proper relationship :hee:. Couple of cheeky blowjobs and quite a lot of... Err... Heavy petting... But no P in V. I was so pure.

Maru 17-11-2018 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10350716)
The obvious answer is that there's now limitless other varieties of distraction / entertainment, available on demand 24/7. Mobile Internet, YouTube/Netflix, games have come on exponentially, online gaming (Call of Duty etc., now Fortnite)... Less in-person social interaction in general thanks to technology. A decline in physical contact is inevitable.

I'm in two minds about whether it's a good or bad thing really. Probably a good thing if it's just that kids are having less random sex just because they're bored, but a bad thing if it's because they're not forming as many actual relationships and thus not bothered about physical contact.

I was a good wee boy when I was a teenager, I didn't have sex until I was in a proper relationship :hee:. Couple of cheeky blowjobs and quite a lot of... Err... Heavy petting... But no P in V. I was so pure.

Yeah for my part, the only person I have ever had sex with is my husband. I don't think that's a technology thing. We're both very traditional, and maybe that's also how we are. I know for me, I was very selective with who we chose to "couple" with... he withheld for religious reasons then.

My husband though, he had some promiscuous exes. Some that were quite pushy about it in a dysfunctional way (I think), but it didn't feel right for him at the time. He had female friends who had asked him to play a "bouncer" of sorts for when they were working a with photographer. I think it was for S&M. But he wasn't interested himself. People have always said he had a guardian vibe to him.

I have another friend a bit older than me (male), but still Millennial, that had one experience outside of marriage and after that, he said it didn't feel right and he felt terrible about it and would never do it again (it was also not good sex). That actually ruined prospects for him romantically speaking, because he was seeking something a little deeper than just lust. Until he finally found someone very similar to him idealogically and then they got married and now have a child.

It's very interesting to me, because we would expect that with sex being so prominent in our lives in our media, we'd all be living sex lives that are more akin to Hollywood. Women searching for lustful encounters and obsessed with d***, especially the way some portions of the women's "empowerment" movement went in the 90's, early 00's... I've heard a few people say both in media and irl, that the younger generation (younger than Millennials) may be moving back the other direction, towards non-transactional/non-casual sex and maybe even traditional values. I didn't really believe that, but after thinking about it maybe there is something to that sentiment given the statistics and the epidemic of mental health trends...

Wizard. 17-11-2018 11:15 PM

the fear of genital warts?

Marsh. 17-11-2018 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 10350741)
the fear of genital warts?

You've seen my fanny, does it look like a cauliflower?

lime 17-11-2018 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 10350735)
Yeah for my part, the only person I have ever had sex with is my husband. I don't think that's a technology thing. We're both very traditional, and maybe that's also how we are. I know for me, I was very selective with who we chose to "couple" with... he withheld for religious reasons then.

My husband though, he had some promiscuous exes. Some that were quite pushy about it in a dysfunctional way (I think), but it didn't feel right for him at the time. He had female friends who had asked him to play a "bouncer" of sorts for when they were working a with photographer. I think it was for S&M. But he wasn't interested himself. People have always said he had a guardian vibe to him.

I have another friend a bit older than me (male), but still Millennial, that had one experience outside of marriage and after that, he said it didn't feel right and he felt terrible about it and would never do it again (it was also not good sex). That actually ruined prospects for him romantically speaking, because he was seeking something a little deeper than just lust. Until he finally found someone very similar to him idealogically and then they got married and now have a child.

It's very interesting to me, because we would expect that with sex being so prominent in our lives in our media, we'd all be living sex lives that are more akin to Hollywood. Women searching for lustful encounters and obsessed with d***, especially the way some portions of the women's "empowerment" movement went in the 90's, early 00's... I've heard a few people say both in media and irl, that the younger generation (younger than Millennials) may be moving back the other direction, towards non-transactional/non-casual sex and maybe even traditional values. I didn't really believe that, but after thinking about it maybe there is something to that sentiment given the statistics and the epidemic of mental health trends...

Maru i think i have heard you say before you are a mother ...You shock and amaze me at the same time....this thing you have mentioned on many occasions ...because we disagree we are "Milenials".I'm 46 my husband is 55.Hollywood sex is irelavnt to us.Think maru you have us all wrong and maybe acually listren to us rather than the media.But sure what would I Know when apparentelty I'm oly a millenial

lime 17-11-2018 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lime (Post 10350752)
Maru i think i have heard you say before you are a mother ...You shock and amaze me at the same time....this thing you have mentioned on many occasions ...because we disagree we are "Milenials".I'm 46 my husband is 55.Hollywood sex is irelavnt to us.Think maru you have us all wrong and maybe acually listren to us rather than the media.But sure what would I Know when apparentelty I'm oly a millenial

For the record the only person i voluntratley had sex with was my husband

Twosugars 18-11-2018 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 10350644)
Brexit tbh

deffo

Twosugars 18-11-2018 12:51 AM

sex drive down, mental health problems up
but of course is the young ones fault
again
nothing to do with dysfunctional world created by older generations, they are never to blame, of course

Liam- 18-11-2018 12:52 AM

Too much effort most of the time

Marsh. 18-11-2018 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lime (Post 10350752)
Maru i think i have heard you say before you are a mother ...You shock and amaze me at the same time....this thing you have mentioned on many occasions ...because we disagree we are "Milenials".I'm 46 my husband is 55.Hollywood sex is irelavnt to us.Think maru you have us all wrong and maybe acually listren to us rather than the media.But sure what would I Know when apparentelty I'm oly a millenial

You're Generation X.

Jordan. 18-11-2018 01:00 AM


Maru 18-11-2018 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10350771)
sex drive down, mental health problems up
but of course is the young ones fault
again
nothing to do with dysfunctional world created by older generations, they are never to blame, of course

Is there some kind of blame culture (poor term I know) against the young I don't know about in the UK? Because it seems like it's a sensitive topic sometimes... and so I'm thinking I may not post more on that subject. I'm just interested in cultural development period, how modern developments affects society. So I wouldn't say my interests are really on young people at all...but that they are the "latest" data we have on the way the needle is moving/bending... it's very interesting, the issue of low birth-rates. I would've never thought it would've been an issue growing up with our access to better health services, controsception, open-discourse about sexuality, less stigma around emotions in general... I do care a bit from a job-related perspective as well, because communications is my field.

I don't think that culture exists here. We have a sense of humor about Millennials, but let's be fair, they're running sh** now. Especially in areas like technology and creative. There's pros and cons to that, of course. But there will always be pros and cons to something :spin: In some ways, the gaps between generations has never been smaller, but then we seem so much more disconnected... I just think it's an interesting topic. Even moreso from a mental health perspective even.

JerseyWins 18-11-2018 01:37 AM

Porn is at its all time best that's why

Trust me I know :hehe:

Maru 18-11-2018 01:47 AM

https://media.giphy.com/media/R2NCZREFeaifC/giphy.gif

Calderyon 18-11-2018 02:14 AM

Sex toys. And pornography.

LeatherTrumpet 18-11-2018 07:51 AM

i swear mobile phones are an issue

I bet a lot of young couples lie in bed looking at their phones instead of making the beast with two backs


young people?

you could not make them up


:joker:

Spoiler:

ok, so i made 3

Toy Soldier 18-11-2018 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lime (Post 10350752)
Maru i think i have heard you say before you are a mother ...You shock and amaze me at the same time....this thing you have mentioned on many occasions ...because we disagree we are "Milenials".I'm 46 my husband is 55.Hollywood sex is irelavnt to us.Think maru you have us all wrong and maybe acually listren to us rather than the media.But sure what would I Know when apparentelty I'm oly a millenial

At 46 you would be GenX not millenials, the oldest millenials are around 40 right now. There's a bit of colloquial confusion with the term too I think because a lot of people are still referring to teenagers / University age adults as "millenials :fist: " when the YOUNGEST millenials right now are around 22.

As a general rule of thumb (for 2018) it's quite "neat" if you do it roughly;

- Under 20 is Generation Z
- age 20 - 40 is Millenials
- 40 - 50 is Generation X
- 50 - 73 is boomers
- 73+ is Silent Generation (quite specific as the start date for boomers is exact; the end of WW2)


That said, us Millenials are a weird generation that really needs to be split in two to be in any way accurate of lifestyle. "youngest" millenials grew up not just with Internet, but with always-on broadband. "oldest" millenials would still have been calling each other on their parents landlines in their teens. I fall in an interesting category of "middle millenials"; childhood with no Internet at all, first dial-up modem when I was about 12, first mobile phone when I was 15. We didn't have broadband until I was 18.

Which means I grew up with no Internet, basic Internet, AND fast Internet.

NO mobile phones, basic texting phones, AND smartphones (by my early 20s).

People 5 years older than me are technically millenials but grew up very GenX style (no Internet or mobile phones). Whereas people 5 years younger than me are also millenials but "grew up fully online". There are some obvious huge differences.

Beastie 18-11-2018 09:20 AM

Quality over quantity.

thesheriff443 18-11-2018 09:50 AM

Well the latest figures show sexually transmitted diseases have gone off the chart due to phone apps, people meeting up with strangers, just for sex without using protection.

If the lack of sex leads to less children being born into a world where the state has to pay then that can only be a good thing.

As for me, I’m still a sexual power ranger.

Toy Soldier 18-11-2018 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10350866)
Well the latest figures show sexually transmitted diseases have gone off the chart due to phone apps, people meeting up with strangers, just for sex without using protection.

If the lack of sex leads to less children being born into a world where the state has to pay then that can only be a good thing.

As for me, I’m still a sexual power ranger.

I believe there's potentially a strange inverse correlation; people having less sex, but with more partners.

e.g. people might now have sex only once every week / every two weeks, but with a different person each time (or every few times)... instead of sex 3 times a week, but with the same partner for a number of months at least.

Increase in STI's is related to number of partners, not frequency of sex.

thesheriff443 18-11-2018 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10350876)
I believe there's potentially a strange inverse correlation; people having less sex, but with more partners.

e.g. people might now have sex only once every week / every two weeks, but with a different person each time (or every few times)... instead of sex 3 times a week, but with the same partner for a number of months at least.

Increase in STI's is related to number of partners, not frequency of sex.

Well yes if you caught three sti’s from your wife over a three month period there is a small chance she is playing away.

Oh in true tibb fashions this could be true for a man also playing away

jaxie 19-11-2018 09:28 PM

Too busy fondling their phones.

Babayaro. 19-11-2018 09:31 PM

I feel attacked

Maru 19-11-2018 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10350866)
Well the latest figures show sexually transmitted diseases have gone off the chart due to phone apps, people meeting up with strangers, just for sex without using protection.

If the lack of sex leads to less children being born into a world where the state has to pay then that can only be a good thing.

As for me, I’m still a sexual power ranger.

https://media.giphy.com/media/q6pzXhTTmk7Is/giphy.gif

Your wife/girlfriend/SO be like:

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