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Pro Sniper 20-11-2018 10:35 PM

Willoughby should be replaced by..
 
a giggling mannequin. Things would run a lot smoother. And Dec wouldn't even notice any difference.

Marsh. 20-11-2018 10:37 PM

Ikr, this is a serious news programme. Ant & Dec NEVER muck around and pull faces and giggle, and wince at the trials. NEVER.

Willoughby should be absolutely ashamed of herself for reading autocues and doing what she's there to do.

Ashley. 20-11-2018 11:50 PM

Can't see much of a difference in the way Holly acts compared to how Ant acted alongside Dec... I do wish criticising men was as easy for some people as criticising women.

Ant. 20-11-2018 11:53 PM

She seemed a little out of place on the first night but she's been amazing with Dec and the chemistry is apparent :unsure:

I've not heard any criticism on Holly yet tho

Twosugars 20-11-2018 11:54 PM

both ant and dec did gags or jokes, now it's just dec
don't like her in this

Marsh. 21-11-2018 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10355300)
both ant and dec did gags or jokes, now it's just dec
don't like her in this

Just Dec?

Well that's just plain ignorance of what's happened on screen.

Pro Sniper 21-11-2018 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 10355298)
Can't see much of a difference in the way Holly acts compared to how Ant acted alongside Dec... I do wish criticising men was as easy for some people as criticising women.

Unless you had any sort of evidence to back up that accusation, that is quite a silly and ridiculous thing to say. As far as I'm concerned, gender has nothing at all to do with it. If a male had stood in for Ant and gave a similar atrocious performance, he'd have got the exact same critique.

Marsh. 21-11-2018 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pro Sniper (Post 10356156)
Unless you had any sort of evidence to back up that accusation, that is quite a silly and ridiculous thing to say. As far as I'm concerned, gender has nothing at all to do with it. If a male had stood in for Ant and gave a similar atrocious performance, he'd have got the exact same critique.

Atrocious performance? :joker: She's literally presenting a TV show, not partaking in the live finals of the X Factor.

Mystic Mock 21-11-2018 07:07 PM

Holly doesn't really have a lot of personality imo, she's like a more extreme version of Tess Daly from SCD where they come across as nice women, but they're only really hired for their looks whilst Claudia/Philip/now Dec does all of the jokes/main elements of their shows such as interviewing the contestants and telling you what's gonna be coming up in the next segment.

As I've said I have nothing personal against Holly (nor Tess for that matter) but I can understand why some people would be critical of Holly's presenting skills as it's non-existent.

Underscore 21-11-2018 07:08 PM

Loving Holly

Marsh. 21-11-2018 07:09 PM

It was never going to be the same as Ant & Dec no matter who they picked, so people are being overly harsh.

Even if they'd have picked someone like Stephen Mulhern he'd have had the "trying to be too much like Ant" criticisms thrown at him.

Mystic Mock 21-11-2018 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10356187)
It was never going to be the same as Ant & Dec no matter who they picked, so people are being overly harsh.

Even if they'd have picked someone like Stephen Mulhern he'd have had the "trying to be too much like Ant" criticisms thrown at him.

I am personally glad that they didn't carbon copy Ant's role on the show, but I do wish that it was someone that has a bit more about them than Holly who if you see DOI doesn't really do much on the show.

Marsh. 21-11-2018 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10356192)
I am personally glad that they didn't carbon copy Ant's role on the show, but I do wish that it was someone that has a bit more about them than Holly who if you see DOI doesn't really do much on the show.

This isn't DoI.

And there isn't much to do on DoI but read an autocue.

Do you want her to balance a ball on her head and juggle at the same time?

mizzy25 21-11-2018 07:19 PM

I thought id dislike her so much in the jungle, however im pleasantly surprised. I think shes very good and I look forward to seeing her outfits each night. Im just delighted it wasn't Scarlett Moffat as I wouldn't have even watched

Beastie 21-11-2018 07:37 PM

Caroline Flack or Cat Deeley would have been better.

Beso 21-11-2018 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 10355298)
Can't see much of a difference in the way Holly acts compared to how Ant acted alongside Dec... I do wish criticising men was as easy for some people as criticising women.

Well said.....


And that tartan dress, PHWOOOOARRR.

Mystic Mock 21-11-2018 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10356207)
This isn't DoI.

And there isn't much to do on DoI but read an autocue.

Do you want her to balance a ball on her head and juggle at the same time?

Philip does most of the presenting on DOI and that's a fact, ITV hardly give Holly any of her own segments other than going to the next judge to comment on a performance, ITV treat her with very little respect on that show imo.

IAC are doing better with her, but she does need to project more personality imo.

Marsh. 21-11-2018 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10356282)
Philip does most of the presenting on DOI and that's a fact, ITV hardly give Holly any of her own segments other than going to the next judge to comment on a performance, ITV treat her with very little respect on that show imo.

I never said it wasn't a fact. Whether she's asking the judges for comments or not, she is doing a job as a presenter. The fact is the show isn't about them.

Do you want her to figure skate topless or something?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10356282)
IAC are doing better with her, but she does need to project more personality imo.

How so? She chats to the contestants when they see them, she takes part in the "bits" with Dec and reads the autocue between segments and reads out the phone numbers.

Do you want her walking a tightrope at the same time?

Binbin 21-11-2018 10:47 PM

Les Dennis.

Dec needs an authority figure like Ant. Look at how little Dec has become a strange and lonely young person without his father figure?
I am very worried about British TV's most talented weirdo.

I suggest Les Dennis.

They look like a father and son, and I know Les is a strict disciplinarian, and enjoys spanking.

rusticgal 21-11-2018 11:00 PM

I think she is doing a great job. Ant and Dec are a comic duo..their presenting format is based on comedy that requires perfect timing to work...and they have been doing it for years. Holly has never done anything like that before but she's quick witted and filling the role perfectly. Tonight saw them naturally bouncing off of each other...and she is feeling more at ease.
She's doing great..not many could do that.

Binbin 21-11-2018 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10356702)
I think she is doing a great job. Ant and Dec are a comic duo..their presenting format is based on comedy that requires perfect timing to work...and they have been doing it for years. Holly has never done anything like that before but she's quick witted and filling the role perfectly. Tonight saw them naturally bouncing off of each other...and she is feeling more at ease.
She's doing great..not many could do that.

Ah yes, but would you shag it?

Marsh. 21-11-2018 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Binbin (Post 10356706)
Ah yes, but would you shag it?

"It" wouldn't shag you.

GoldHeart 21-11-2018 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10356175)
Holly doesn't really have a lot of personality imo, she's like a more extreme version of Tess Daly from SCD where they come across as nice women, but they're only really hired for their looks whilst Claudia/Philip/now Dec does all of the jokes/main elements of their shows such as interviewing the contestants and telling you what's gonna be coming up in the next segment.

As I've said I have nothing personal against Holly (nor Tess for that matter) but I can understand why some people would be critical of Holly's presenting skills as it's non-existent.

Yeah and i wish gender would stop getting mentioned :rolleyes: , I'm a woman myself and i thought Holly WASN'T the best choice for Dec's co presenter and it's that simple :shrug: .

Plus when you get a comedy duo that's been working together for years!!! , it's hard to copy or replace that kind of chemistry.

I would of felt the same way if Ant & Dec were women and if Ant still got replaced by the wrong person .

Yes Holly is gelling more with Dec now and she's trying the banter , but she still seems a bit out of place especially at trials .

Marsh. 22-11-2018 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10356723)
Yeah and i wish gender would stop getting mentioned :rolleyes: , I'm a woman myself and i thought Holly WASN'T the best choice for Dec's co presenter and it's that simple :shrug:

I think you're confused. Gender is only mentioned on the grounds that Dec specifically wanted to work with a woman so as not to feel like Ant was getting a replacement. Not that she's above criticism because she's a woman.

(Although there is some validity to Ashley's comment about holding men and women to the same standards).

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10356723)
it's hard to copy or replace that kind of chemistry.

Which is what they're not trying to do. She's merely company for Dec whilst Ant isn't working. Literally all it is.

Niamh. 22-11-2018 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10356702)
I think she is doing a great job. Ant and Dec are a comic duo..their presenting format is based on comedy that requires perfect timing to work...and they have been doing it for years. Holly has never done anything like that before but she's quick witted and filling the role perfectly. Tonight saw them naturally bouncing off of each other...and she is feeling more at ease.
She's doing great..not many could do that.

Hear Hear!!


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