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Ireland has many problems with housing and heath care ..much like the UK...i am not keen to paint you as anti Irish..when you talk about the Irish. and say they export their citizens thats more than insulting...your words not mine. Cherie I have a last bit of shopping to do,,,would love to talk to you more on this tropic |
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Anyway Merry Christmas! |
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I was pointing out that the UK has been "exporting its nurses" after training - and filling the gap with nurses from abroad - for decades. It seems quite relevant? |
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Yes, there was a risk of losing full EU membership if Scotland had voted yes, although in my opinion, not a huge or realistic one. The EU wants as many member nations as possible and would be VERY unlikely to reject quick membership from a country that already was in line with all of the laws and regulations required for membership (which is the biggest barrier to membership). The myth promoted by the "No" camp was that EU membership consideration is on a "first come, first served" basis, when it is not. The only major complaint was the Catalonia issue and Spain and that was mostly hot air. Either way, even if Scotland hadn't been granted full membership, it could simply have been an "EU mirror" like Norway or Iceland and thus have stayed in the single market until securing full membership. It's easy to assume that the Scottish independence issue and Brexit are similar in nature but they're just not if you have any real knowledge of them. Scottish independence is about full local self-determination as part of a larger economic group (the EU). It's not about isolationism or controlling the borders, like Brexit. Quite the opposite, in fact. |
Mess, I was reading the Private Eye last night (after 6 months of avoiding politics) and they say the Daily Mail has been critical of brexit since they changed chief editor in September. :hehe:
Anybody can confirm that? |
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Oh I know they're opprotunistic liars. But the fact remains they're the most widely read paper, especially amongst the older demographic. So in that respect very influential.
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I am not sure that main opinion will change... Probably more amount of people will vote in general but mostly will be for Brexit as it was before. I know a couple of Brits who 3 years ago decided to buy property in Italy https://tranio.com/italy/ and now are living there. So in the first vote they voted "for Brexit" not understand full problems it will bring to them. Because now they will have to visit police every 3 months for their residence papers when before the vote once per year only.
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What a utter mess.
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I think another vote is more likely but isn't likely to solve anything.
I'd vote and still vote to remain if that was on the ballot, rejecting both May's deal and no deal myself. I can see it being insisted that remain is on the ballot paper. I then can see an outcome where a 20%+ figure comes for May's deal. Higher 30s for no deal, with near a similar figure for remain. The awful division and hostility that surfaced from the last vote gaining new momentum after a second vote. If Parliament is near deadlocked, for me a general election would be preferable with an extension of article 50. It would leave the Cons either advocating no deal or Mrs May's. Labour and Corbyn would be forced too, to then detail a more clear plan. I think Corbyn could find himself trapped with a Party demanding remain. So then see what the arithmetic of Parliament is after such an election. Some seats always change hands, even a move of around 25 seats could alter things considerably. A second referendum for me is likely all that will come about, recalling the abuse I got and what I saw others get canvassing in the 2016 referendum. Doesn't however give me an appetite for another . |
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