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reece(: 26-01-2019 10:22 PM

Actress Kate Hudson is raising her baby daughter Rani genderless
 
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Kate Hudson has revealed she's raising her three-month-old daughter Rani Rose to be 'genderless'.

The Hollywood actress, 39, says she and boyfriend Danny Fujikawa want their little girl to decide which gender she identifies with most in her own time.

Talking about finally having a sister for sons Ryder, 15, and Bingham, seven - who she had with exes Chris Robinson and Matt Bellamy respectively - Kate said her child's sex has no real baring on how she'll be brought up.

"I think you just raise your kids individually regardless - like a genderless [approach]. We still don’t know what she’s going to identify as," she told AOL.com.

However, she did reveal that Rani seems to be on the girlie side.

"I will say that, right now, she is incredibly feminine in her energy, her sounds and her way. It’s very different from the boys," she said.

"And it’s really fun to actually want to buy kids’ clothes. With the boys it was just like onesies... actually, I did pretty good with the boys. But with her it’s a whole other ball game. There’s some stuff that I’m like, “I can’t do that to her, because it’s so over-the-top.”

Kate herself was the only girl in a family of four brothers and says she was raised as a "tomboy in a spinning dress".

"My middle brother, [Boston,] who is closest to me in age, was basically my sister because I put makeup on him all the time, and I’d dress him up and he loved it," she previously said.

"But growing up as a girl with all boys, you end up with a thick skin. You really do. People say, 'Oh, your brothers must’ve really protected you.' And I’m like, 'They threw me right into the fire!'"

Kate - whose mum is Goldie Hawn - and Danny announced their pregnancy last April after just one year of dating.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...ghter-13900015
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montblanc 26-01-2019 10:26 PM

i see no problem with it as long as she doesn't overcomplicate it :skull:

Alf 27-01-2019 03:34 AM

Well that will get her some attention.

oh! It has.

It's all about attention seeking.

Mokka 27-01-2019 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10420640)
Well that will get her some attention.

oh! It has.

It's all about attention seeking.

Well at least she has your attention :wink:

Alf 27-01-2019 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 10420642)
Well at least she has your attention :wink:

Good for her, her plan worked. Meanwhile a child is being used like a fashion accessory. But who cares?

Oliver_W 27-01-2019 08:01 AM

Wow I never knew she was Goldie Hawn's daughter.

But yeah, the "genderless upbringing" thing is pretty stupid, hopefully she gives up on it before long.

Cherie 27-01-2019 08:03 AM

"I will say that, right now, she is incredibly feminine in her energy, her sounds and her way. It’s very different from the boys," she said.


Put any 3 month baby in a neutral babygro and a stranger wouldn’t be able to tell the gender

Silly woman

smudgie 27-01-2019 08:04 AM

What exactly is genderless upbringing?
I understand the theory etc, but what does it entail?

Cherie 27-01-2019 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 10420675)
What exactly is genderless upbringing?
I understand the theory etc, but what does it entail?

Not too sure tbh...

Saph 27-01-2019 09:10 AM

what kind of name is Bingham

arista 27-01-2019 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Saph (Post 10420702)
what kind of name is Bingham



A Town Name

LeatherTrumpet 27-01-2019 09:18 AM

attention seeking a hole

Toy Soldier 27-01-2019 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 10420675)
What exactly is genderless upbringing?

I understand the theory etc, but what does it entail?

No cutesy frilly pink stuff for girls and blue for boys, no "boys toys" and "girl's toys", "princesses for girls dinosaurs for boys" etc etc.

We vaguely tried that philosophy with our first but she ended up being a total princess anyway :think:. Though I guess that's the point - it's fine for them to be whatever they want, so long as you don't push them in one specific direction.

Cherie 27-01-2019 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10420728)
No cutesy frilly pink stuff for girls and blue for boys, no "boys toys" and "girl's toys", "princesses for girls dinosaurs for boys" etc etc.

We vaguely tried that philosophy with our first but she ended up being a total princess anyway :think:. Though I guess that's the point - it's fine for them to be whatever they want, so long as you don't push them in one specific direction.

No boys toys and girls toys so what toys do you buy then, surely you would have to buy at least some gender orientated toys otherwise how will the poor kid ever identify what they like :suspect:

Tom4784 27-01-2019 10:49 AM

I hate it when parents do this, it's not progressive or woke, they're just creating confusion for the child when, chances are, there wouldn't be any confusion for the child if they were raised typically.

Raising a child to defy gender norms and stereotypes? Yaas. Letting your child know that you'd love and support them no matter what? Yaas. Trying to explain to a child that they can pick their own gender and the complex philosophies involved? Dumb and chances are it'll just create issues that wouldn't have occurred otherwise.

If people have issues with their gender, they'll figure that out on their own, all you can do is support them but things like this are just basically forcing issues on your children for the sake of looking oh so progressive and impressive.

smudgie 27-01-2019 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10420739)
No boys toys and girls toys so what toys do you buy then, surely you would have to buy at least some gender orientated toys otherwise how will the poor kid ever identify what they like :suspect:

Ahhh, see we have been doing it for generations then, but just didn’t need a fancy name for it.
My son never wore a dress, but he wore high heels etc and make-up ( mine of course..little beggar:fist:)
My daughter wore one frilly dress that her Nanna bought her, she wore it once when Nanna visited.
Once they were old enough to choose their own clothes they did.
Both lived in jeans and tops as toddlers, daughter wore her brothers hand me downs as well as her own.
She did wear a few stylish dresses as she got older, wouldn’t play with Barbie or Cindy, loved cuddly toys, as did son.
Both had tea sets, Lego and train sets.
Not really much difference in a lot of ways, but worlds apart in others.
The bedding sets they chose tended to be more to what their gender would favour, as in what they watched on telly.
But all down to their own choice.

smudgie 27-01-2019 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10420743)
I hate it when parents do this, it's not progressive or woke, they're just creating confusion for the child when, chances are, there wouldn't be any confusion for the child if they were raised typically.

Raising a child to defy gender norms and stereotypes? Yaas. Letting your child know that you'd love and support them no matter what? Yaas. Trying to explain to a child that they can pick their own gender and the complex philosophies involved? Dumb and chances are it'll just create issues that wouldn't have occurred otherwise.

If people have issues with their gender, they'll figure that out on their own, all you can do is support them but things like this are just basically forcing issues on your children for the sake of looking oh so progressive and impressive.

You say it much better than me Dezzy.

Mystic Mock 27-01-2019 11:22 AM

There is nothing wrong with people having some gender stereotypes imo, as long as it's not forced on the child anyway.

If I was a parent though I'd just buy all sorts of toys for the child and see which ones they liked, for example if a boy wants to play with dolls then I would buy the boy dolls, if a girl wants to play with a Batmobile then that's what I'd get her.

As Dezzy said, this Kate woman is trying to overcomplicate things for a child that isn't even old enough to understand what gender even means.

Kazanne 27-01-2019 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 10420675)
What exactly is genderless upbringing?
I understand the theory etc, but what does it entail?

It's a strange one is she never allowed to wear a dress or play with girlie toys:shrug:

Niamh. 27-01-2019 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 10420675)
What exactly is genderless upbringing?

I understand the theory etc, but what does it entail?

No idea

Toy Soldier 27-01-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10420739)
No boys toys and girls toys so what toys do you buy then, surely you would have to buy at least some gender orientated toys otherwise how will the poor kid ever identify what they like :suspect:

It's not "no boys toys no girls toys" it's just whatever toy they like the look of without saying "you can't have that Jayden, that's for girls and shall turn ye ****".

So if a boy wants dolls it's not "girly", if a girl want a toolset it's not "tomboy" etc etc.

However as I said we discovered that both of our girls did naturally gravitate towards "pretty / girly" stuff so it makes me wonder if it really is hard wired to some extent :think:.

Braden 27-01-2019 12:34 PM

I don't see any problem with this at all because she's essentially allowing her child to choose how they identify through options, as opposed to 'I'm going to buy this baby girl a pink top because we all know pink equals girl', or 'I'm going to buy this baby boy a football because we all know boys want to grow up to be footballers when they're older', which still plagues our culture and society today.

I think a lot of people presume 'genderless' or 'gender-neutral' parenting means children won't be able to associate with either gender whatsoever, but I think it's just a way of saying 'I'm going to let my child be whoever they want to be'. Mary Portas did the same thing, essentially what she did was give her child options in terms of being able to play with things (or express themselves in a way) that is typically 'girly' or 'boyish'. What she found out was that her male child ended up hating dolls and wanting play with trucks, and that was that. It's not really a big deal.

LeatherTrumpet 27-01-2019 01:00 PM

I expect she will be getting the suction cups on her back and has at least 3 mindfullness books by her bedside and lives on dust and Ethiopian mule piss

GoldHeart 27-01-2019 09:26 PM

Kate Hudson sounds like a fruit loop jumping onto the bandwagon of the latest trend :bored: .

How the hell can you raise your baby as genderless at such a young age ,is she trying to confuse her kid??? :facepalm: .

And I'm still not convinced or understand the whole non binary hype

Marsh. 27-01-2019 09:56 PM

It is funny that she's all for gender neutral but then says the baby has "feminine sounds and ways". But, isn't gender neutrality about moving away from only girls do a b and c and boys do d e and f?

I'd also challenge her to tell me what's overtly feminine about a 3 month old baby?

A toddler exhibiting feminine or masculine traits, ok, but most newborns are indistinguishable in their gender. It's the pinks/blues/bows etc that they are dressed in which are used to signify it.


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