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Twosugars 13-03-2019 01:43 PM

Crowdfunded campaign take Boris to court for Brexit lies
 
This started some time ago but it's ongoing (they'v just submitted documentation in court) and afaik hasn't been posted on tibb yet

https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/upload...with%20red.png

Quote:

Why I’m trying to prosecute Boris Johnson


Marcus J. Ball
Founder at Brexit Justice Ltd.


Will he be found guilty? Will he be given a serious criminal sentence? Only the courts can decide.

Do you remember when we all used to trust politicians and have real faith in the systems of democracy and government?

No, neither do I. This is why I’ve instructed our lawyers to prosecute Boris Johnson, so the ideal of a system of trust can become a reality.

During the 2016 EU referendum I witnessed the disgusting demonstration of the depths to which our political professionals were willing to stoop.

In my view the Leave side largely lied their way to victory and the Remain side cheated their way to defeat by using public funds for campaigning purposes. Neither strategy deserves applause and both require strong action to prevent repetition.

So, I crowdfunded £145,000 from about 5000 people at the time, moved to London, recruited a legal team and set about trying to build criminal prosecution cases against Leave and Remain campaigners.

I want to prevent conduct of that kind from becoming the normal political standard in UK politics. I knew that if we could win a prosecution against such immoral and untrustworthy actions the precedent could make it illegal for them to occur in future.

Over the next two and a half years we considered cases based upon fraud, undue influence and incitement to racial hatred, among others.

We investigated several very high-profile politicians and campaigners from both sides.

However, after a lot of hard work our legal team concluded that only one case could be brought: Mr Boris Johnson, for the alleged offence of misconduct in public office.

This is a criminal offence contrary to the common law, with a maximum penalty of life imprisonment. Our lawyers have contacted Mr Johnson to ask him for comment.

Our team, led in court by Lewis Power QC, is challenging Mr Johnson’s statements concerning the claim we spend £350 million every week on EU membership. Our team argues that this claim was false.

It is false to say that the UK spends this sum of money, a fact of which we believe Mr Johnson is aware. However, he decided to repeatedly state the claim regardless.

Only a court can decide upon innocence or guilt in this matter, no outcome is guaranteed. But, prison sentences in response to dishonest actions from public office holders are not unprecedented.

In 2012 an off-duty police officer was given a one year prison sentence after he lied within an email concerning the ‘Plebgate’ affair.

In 2004 an elected councillor with a hidden private interest was given an 18 month prison sentence for dishonestly influencing the route of a road realignment project.

In 2013 two prison officers were also imprisoned, one of their offences being the dishonest covering up of a sexual relationship between a colleague and an inmate.

If these relatively minor dishonest actions are prison worthy examples of misconduct in public office; then why shouldn’t dishonest claims about public spending from top politicians be as well?

If an elected public officer, such as a member of parliament, were to knowingly lie to the public about how their money was being spent, surely that would be an enormous abuse of public trust? If all are truly equal under the law, why should a police officer be expected to adhere to higher standards than a high-flying member of parliament?

Will he be found guilty? Will he be given a serious criminal sentence? Only the courts can decide.

If I fail in my job to raise the money we need to pay for this case, these questions shall never be answered. I invite all Metro readers to join me in my fight against lying in politics by helping us crowdfund our case today.

Our team of top criminal lawyers have worked on offences such as terrorism, war crimes, murder and serious fraud. They’re a great team and this is a very serious effort. We need to raise hundreds of thousands of pounds to keep this moving forward and time is running out.

Together we can create a world in which we do trust our politicians and have faith in the systems of democracy and government. And one day we can tell our kids how we did it.
Here's the link to his crowfunding page with all the info
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/brexit...secution#start

Denver 13-03-2019 01:47 PM

Sad bastards

arista 13-03-2019 01:54 PM

Yes Boris is not bothered.
His legal team are ready.

[Together we can create a world in which we do trust our politicians and have faith in the systems of democracy and government. And one day we can tell our kids how we did it. ]

Twosugars 13-03-2019 01:57 PM

I'd prefer I wasn't lied to by politicians so I've donated, take the bastard to court and let him squirm
if nothing else it's a good precedent so that they know they can't get away with lies

Nicky91 13-03-2019 02:00 PM

ffs Boris

Denver 13-03-2019 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10476287)
I'd prefer I wasn't lied to by politicians so I've donated, take the bastard to court and let him squirm
if nothing else it's a good precedent so that they know they can't get away with lies

If you spent money everytime a politician lied you would be homeless.

There is not one that will tell the truth

arista 13-03-2019 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10476287)
I'd prefer I wasn't lied to by politicians so I've donated, take the bastard to court and let him squirm
if nothing else it's a good precedent so that they know they can't get away with lies


Lies

or were they Projecting?

Twosugars 13-03-2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10476290)
Lies

or were they Projecting?

Lies. The guy says he had legal experts analyze everything and Boris popped up as a prosecutable case.

Twosugars 13-03-2019 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10476289)
If you spent money everytime a politician lied you would be homeless.

There is not one that will tell the truth

it wasn't possible before, who's got the money for a private prosecution
but now with crowdfunding things can be different
this will be an important precedent for the future

Alf 13-03-2019 02:09 PM

Being a bad loser is just not British.

We used to know how to lose gracefully. What happened?

arista 13-03-2019 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10476292)
Lies. The guy says he had legal experts analyze everything and Boris popped up as a prosecutable case.


See what happens down the road?

Twosugars 13-03-2019 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10476296)
Being a bad loser is just not British.

We used to know how to lose gracefully. What happened?

not if the fight was unfair, that's certainly not British
fair play is a British invention so lies need to be punished and the fight rerun

arista 13-03-2019 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10476296)
Being a bad loser is just not British.

We used to know how to lose gracefully. What happened?



Marcus J. Ball
Founder at Brexit Justice Ltd.


He has been on LBC Live Radio AM
a few times

Alf 13-03-2019 02:18 PM

The naughty step, tantrum generation, try to take Boris to court, because they lost a vote.

Twosugars 13-03-2019 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10476305)
The naughty step, tantrum generation, try to take Boris to court, because they lost a vote.

it is the fair play generation, very British, you should approve Alfred

Alf 13-03-2019 02:23 PM

"Don't care how, I want it now"

Cherie 13-03-2019 02:54 PM

It would be amazing if anyone who lied while holding office had to account for it but that wont happen unfortunately

user104658 13-03-2019 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10476357)
It would be amazing if anyone who lied while holding office had to account for it but that wont happen unfortunately

Well exactly, as much as I dislike Boris it wouldn't exactly be fair to not point out that there have been many, many... many politicians before him who have told far bigger lies and there will, unfortunately, be many more to come.

Northern Monkey 13-03-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10476276)
Sad bastards

I would echo this sentiment

Northern Monkey 13-03-2019 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10476357)
It would be amazing if anyone who lied while holding office had to account for it but that wont happen unfortunately

And this^

Twosugars 13-03-2019 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10476384)
Well exactly, as much as I dislike Boris it wouldn't exactly be fair to not point out that there have been many, many... many politicians before him who have told far bigger lies and there will, unfortunately, be many more to come.

we need to start somewhere

Oliver_W 13-03-2019 04:10 PM

lol.

Mystic Mock 13-03-2019 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10476289)
If you spent money everytime a politician lied you would be homeless.

There is not one that will tell the truth

On such a big issue like the EU Referendum the Politicians shouldn't be allowed to spread lies about how much money we pay into the EU, or tbf even away from the Brexit topic, Politicians shouldn't be lying about how much this country puts into anything as it is misleading the voters.

Mystic Mock 13-03-2019 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10476305)
The naughty step, tantrum generation, try to take Boris to court, because they lost a vote.

This is a very hateful post towards younger people imo.

Wanting justice over false statistics is not wanting to overturn Brexit.


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