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The Slim Reaper 12-04-2019 12:51 PM

Court orders historic revote on referendum as voters were uninformed
 
https://thehill.com/policy/internati...-referendum-as

Switzerland's top court has for the first time in the country's modern history overturned the outcome of a nationwide referendum, saying voters were given "incomplete" information on the measure.

The country’s supreme court on Wednesday voided the result of a ballot held in 2016 that asked voters whether cohabiting partners and married couples should be required to pay the same taxes.

The proposal was narrowly rejected by voters at the time, with 50.8 percent of voters opposing the measure and 49.2 percent favoring it.

However, the court overturned the result of the referendum after finding that information provided to voters during the referendum campaign was "incomplete” and therefore in violation of the “freedom of the vote,” according to the BBC.

Ahead of the February 2016 vote, the Swiss government reportedly told voters that only 80,000 married couples paid more in taxes than couples who resided together.

However, the government later said that the true number was roughly 500,000, according to the BBC.

"Keeping in mind the close result and the severe nature of the irregularities, it is possible that the outcome of the ballot could have been different," the nation’s court said in a statement, according to the BBC.

The Christian Democratic party, which had reportedly proposed the 2016 vote on whether married couples were unfairly penalized under the country’s tax regime, brought an appeal against the result last year, arguing that voters had been misinformed.

The group praised the court’s recent decision in a statement to BBC, calling it a "boost for the political rights of Swiss voters.”

However, some critics of the court’s move have argued that the ruling could open the door to more complaints about referendums in the country.

Smithy 12-04-2019 12:55 PM

Switzerland overturns referendum as voters were poorly informed
 


@TheresaMay follow suit hen :idc:

Quote:

Switzerland's top court has for the first time in the country's modern history overturned the outcome of a nationwide referendum, saying voters were given "incomplete" information on the measure.

The country's supreme court on Wednesday voided the result of a ballot held in 2016 that asked voters whether cohabiting partners and married couples should be required to pay the same taxes.

The proposal was narrowly rejected by voters at the time, with 50.8 percent of voters opposing the measure and 49.2 percent favoring it.

However, the court overturned the result of the referendum after finding that information provided to voters during the referendum campaign was "incomplete" and therefore in violation of the "freedom of the vote," according to the BBC.

Ahead of the February 2016 vote, the Swiss government reportedly told voters that only 80,000 married couples paid more in taxes than couples who resided together.

However, the government later said that the true number was roughly 500,000, according to the BBC.

Smithy 12-04-2019 12:55 PM

Oh lol I just posted this too can a mod merge :hee:

The Slim Reaper 12-04-2019 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10505830)
Oh lol I just posted this too can a mod merge :hee:

I'm sure two threads won't cause Arista's head to explode or anything.

Vicky. 12-04-2019 01:01 PM

Interesting...dare I hope we may do the same thing. Honestly, I think voters on both sides were misinformed and lied to and basically, given there have been so many 'rule breaks' and such, I do think that there should be another vote at this stage. My parents voted leave, mainly fell for the NHS thing but also..wanted to leave with a deal on the common market and such. As no deal seems to be possible, they say they would vote differently now. I think a lot of people would. It was ridiculous to have the referendum when there was so much crap said and not many actually understood what they were voting for (BOTH sides, again). As it was so close, another vote to cement whats wanted would be fine by me. I was on the 'ok, just leave' side, until all the ****ing ridiculous **** thats gone on since. I don't really understand the anger about the possibility, IF its actually what 'the people' want to leave with no deal, then surely the vote would reflect that.

I know this is not about brexit. But its the first thing I thought of.

Northern Monkey 12-04-2019 01:01 PM

Sore losers.

A bit like here really :laugh:

Seems like a new precedent.
‘We don’t like it....Cancel it’

The Slim Reaper 12-04-2019 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10505835)
Sore losers.

A bit like here really :laugh:

Seems like a new precedent.
‘We don’t like it....Cancel it’

How about don't lie and cheat and we won't cancel it?

Oliver_W 12-04-2019 01:08 PM

So they reversed a referendum so they could make cohabitors pay higher taxes? Sounds about right. tbh married couples should get tax breaks if anything.

Niamh. 12-04-2019 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10505841)
So they reversed a referendum so they could make cohabitors pay higher taxes? Sounds about right. tbh married couples should get tax breaks if anything.

Married couples do get tax breaks?

Oliver_W 12-04-2019 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10505850)
Married couples do get tax breaks?

Apparently not in Switzerland, when 500,000 married couples pay more tax than cohabitors.

Niamh. 12-04-2019 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10505852)
Apparently not in Switzerland, when 500,000 married couples pay more tax than cohabitors.

Really? That's odd, not much incentive to get married then

Twosugars 12-04-2019 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10505835)
Sore losers.

A bit like here really :laugh:

Seems like a new precedent.
‘We don’t like it....Cancel it’

not cancel, repeat!

Why Leavers are so afraid their wafer-thin majority won bc of lies will evaporate in another ref? :think: Beats me :shrug:

Glenn. 12-04-2019 03:53 PM

If remain won the referendum and leavers were crying out for another vote the remoaners would be singing a completely different tune. Fact.

Denver 12-04-2019 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10505959)
If remain won the referendum and leavers were crying out for another vote the remoaners would be singing a completely different tune. Fact.

Tea they are sore losers who expect the to be given what they want when they want

Shaun 12-04-2019 03:56 PM

Thank you Glenn for a useless hypothetical

Smithy 12-04-2019 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10505959)
If remain won the referendum and leavers were crying out for another vote the remoaners would be singing a completely different tune. Fact.

What the **** :joker:

You can’t even compare the two

If remain had won the referendum, life would have carried on as normal, there would have been a month maybe 6 weeks of leavers moaning.

Fact of the matter is leave won with no idea of how to actually leave, they won based on lies. People didn’t know what they were voting for when they voted leave and now people are waking up to the realization it’s a **** show and that’s why they want a second vote

arista 12-04-2019 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10505831)
I'm sure two threads won't cause Arista's head to explode or anything.


At least Smithy
put the Nation on the title

Glenn. 12-04-2019 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10505966)
What the **** :joker:

You can’t even compare the two

If remain had won the referendum, life would have carried on as normal, there would have been a month maybe 6 weeks of leavers moaning.

Fact of the matter is leave won with no idea of how to actually leave, they won based on lies. People didn’t know what they were voting for when they voted leave and now people are waking up to the realization it’s a **** show and that’s why they want a second vote

That’s exactly how a remoaner would reply to what I said.

Glenn. 12-04-2019 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 10505961)
Thank you Glenn for a useless hypothetical

Me at your review thread

The Slim Reaper 12-04-2019 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10505969)
At least Smithy
put the Nation on the title

Me when writing the thread title

https://media.giphy.com/media/srTYyZ1BjBtGU/giphy.gif

Elliot 12-04-2019 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10505978)
That’s exactly how a remoaner would reply to what I said.

How else are you supposed to reply to a nonsensical hypothetical

Glenn. 12-04-2019 04:47 PM

It isn’t nonsensical.

Smithy 12-04-2019 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10505978)
That’s exactly how a remoaner would reply to what I said.

That’s exactly what someone who’s uninformed and can’t have an intelligent discussion about the matter at hand would reply to what I’ve said

Cherie 12-04-2019 04:53 PM

Tbf if remain had won, leave would still be banging on about leaving the EU as Farage said the night before the result when he thought leave had lost that they wouldn't give up. There is no shame in following your belief and that goes for both leave and remain

Glenn. 12-04-2019 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10505997)
That’s exactly what someone who’s uninformed and can’t have an intelligent discussion about the matter at hand would reply to what I’ve said

You didn’t really say anything of any substance though. Just the same **** remain have been saying for two years.


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