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godfather545 08-06-2007 11:09 AM

England makes me sick, what is happening to this country
 
I 100% agree with Bbs decison.

I am a 22 year old black man born in this contry and i am sickened by the outcry over Emilys removal.

The ease of how Emily used that word is scary. The vast majority of my friends are white and i have never been called n****** not even in jest. I have a feeling that emily is racist and uses this word a lot to describe blacks. If you are non-black ask yourself how many times you have used the word n******..im guessing not many.

i belivee Emily words were ' urrgh u are pushing it out you n******'. This is cleary derogatory. its not the same as someone say whats up my n****** the YOU part of her sentence is the key. Where whats up my n****** is creating a sense of belonging and togetherness 'YOU' is clearly not.

The word n***** is definitly worse when said by a white person and that is the truth. It was a word created by whites during slavery to describe blacks so a non white using the word would definitly not upset me as much as a white person.


Being called a n***** is difficult to explain to a non-black person as i am sure being called a p*** is to a non asian. Coming from personal experience of a racist attack i recieved, it leaves you feeling INADEQUATE, SMALL, and WORTHLESS. it is genuinly the worst thing anyone could ever say to me

Nicky and Charly were only repeating Emily when the said the word. If i went to poliice after being racially assualted and repeated what was said to me would i then be arrested? of course not that would be ridiculous. If Charley said the word of her own accord then i am pretty sre she would be punished by big brother. The fact is Charley WAS deeply offended, she was still up at 3 in the morning talking about it. She said she wasnt but that was just to cover her true feelings.

So what do the majority of people protesting over BBs descision want? for n***** to become commonplace among non-whites? if i get called a n***** in the street and become upset will i see no justice because some idiot uses it in a rap song? This is a sad sad day and shows that RACISM IS STILL RIFE IN ENGLAND

Bells 08-06-2007 11:15 AM

It's a sad fact of life - racism does exist, but not only in England - it's worldwide, and there will always be undertones. Education is the key, and making sure people become less and less ignorant and more and more tolerant. I agree that the way Emily used the term so loosely probably means she is familiar with it, and apparently it's used quite a lot in Bristol, according to her. I think the term n***** is far worse even than p*** for example, simply because of where it was derived from, but any racially offensive word is totally unacceptable - especially on live TV!

As far as I'm aware, people understand what she did was wrong but most of those who disagree with her ejection think she should have been punished in some other way. What they're probably forgetting is that BB would've received even more complaints and if anything would've made things worse for Emily.

Fom 08-06-2007 11:18 AM

what i want is no one to use the word.
emily shouldnt ofsaid it i understand.
i dont get why charly can say it and get away with it... saying only black ppl can say it is racist. i feel offended by that!

stella 08-06-2007 11:21 AM

me too fom

Amy 08-06-2007 11:22 AM

I don't agree with the word.. I hate hearing it used by anyone, regardless of the colour of anyone's skin.

I also 100% agree with BB's decision.. I think most, if not all, people do here.

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So what do the majority of people protesting over BBs descision want? for n***** to become commonplace among non-whites?
I hope not .. I have not really seen many people protesting over what was said.. if they are then they meerly don't understand that what Emily said was wrong.

Quote:

Coming from personal experience of a racist attack i recieved, it leaves you feeling INADEQUATE, SMALL, and WORTHLESS. it is genuinly the worst thing anyone could ever say to me
I can imagine it does.. From a personal experience I've had any form of racism or bullying should never happen.. I hate bullies that assume you are something you are not or accuse you of things that you are not even saying.. sad isn't it.. in this day an age.

stella 08-06-2007 11:22 AM

Admin deleted... think what you are saying before you post.

InTheFade 08-06-2007 11:31 AM

I don't understand, there would have been just as big an outcry if she hadn't been removed from the house. I agree with a lot of your points, no-one should ever use that word, if it wasn't clear before just how much it offends people (black and white), it should be now but I rarely hear anyone use that word and I certainly don't so it's not as though England is made up of racists.

Chrizzle 08-06-2007 11:56 AM

I hope this post makes Emilys supporters see what she did wrong, but as fair as they are concerned she offended no-one, and they carry on supporting her because she is 'pretty' or whatever.

Im sorry you got offedned by it, but not all of us English people are like that vile bitch Emily, or Jade Goody.

:thumbs:

Turrican 08-06-2007 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by godfather545
I 100% agree with Bbs decison.

I am a 22 year old black man born in this contry and i am sickened by the outcry over Emilys removal.

The ease of how Emily used that word is scary. The vast majority of my friends are white and i have never been called n****** not even in jest. I have a feeling that emily is racist and uses this word a lot to describe blacks. If you are non-black ask yourself how many times you have used the word n******..Im guessing not many.

i belivee Emily words were ' urrgh u are pushing it out you n******'. This is cleary derogatory. its not the same as someone say whats up my n****** the YOU part of her sentence is the key. Where whats up my n****** is creating a sense of belonging and togetherness 'YOU' is clearly not.

The word n***** is definitly worse when said by a white person and that is the truth. It was a word created by whites during slavery to describe blacks so a non white using the word would definitly not upset me as much as a white person.


Being called a n***** is difficult to explain to a non-black person as i am sure being called a p*** is to a non asian. Coming from personal experience of a racist attack i recieved, it leaves you feeling INADEQUATE, SMALL, and WORTHLESS. it is genuinly the worst thing anyone could ever say to me

Nicky and Charly were only repeating Emily when the said the word. If i went to poliice after being racially assualted and repeated what was said to me would i then be arrested? of course not that would be ridiculous. If Charley said the word of her own accord then i am pretty sre she would be punished by big brother. The fact is Charley WAS deeply offended, she was still up at 3 in the morning talking about it. She said she wasnt but that was just to cover her true feelings.

So what do the majority of people protesting over BBs descision want? for n***** to become commonplace among non-whites? if i get called a n***** in the street and become upset will i see no justice because some idiot uses it in a rap song? This is a sad sad day and shows that RACISM IS STILL RIFE IN ENGLAND
I totally agree. It's horrifying to see people defending Emily despite witnessing what she said and how she said it. It WAS an insult, it was used in a demeaning way in the context. I'm sick of people saying "in the context it wasnt racist" well, it WAS!!!

I'm glad you acknowledge also that rappers who use the word in "songs" are idiots too, I agree with this also - the N word does nothing for anyone except degrade them.

Even in the context of a black person saying to another black person "whats up my n****" it's kinda like they have accepted that they are lower class than a white person to use that word. Imagine if two white people greeted each other with "hey, what's up white-trash?"

They shouldnt have to feel that way, everyone should be equal.

James 08-06-2007 12:22 PM

Okay, I've deleted the comment by Stella above. We don't want those kind of views on the message board. I've also deleted the posts responding to it because there is just going to be an argument. Best to stick to the topic.

godfather545 08-06-2007 12:25 PM

Thanks admin. i didnt come here to be abused i just wanted to put my point of view across.

Turrican 08-06-2007 12:25 PM

damn i didnt read what stella said, I wish i had now, i'm curious! lol

EDIT: ah ok... it was an insult to the OP. Glad it was removed then.

godfather545 08-06-2007 12:26 PM

besides im not goin anywhere yet, still got 1 year left of uni to do :laugh:

Mrluvaluva 08-06-2007 12:26 PM

I am still shocked.

Bells 08-06-2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by godfather545
besides Im not goin anywhere yet, still got 1 year left of uni to do :laugh:
You don't need to go anywhere. I think that was totally out of order... I understand what you said could have been phrased differently, but that's just not on. It's where most of the problems stem from in the first place.

ttw 08-06-2007 12:31 PM

Dont worry about it ppl. Stella obviously has issues. Everyone should just pray she will overcome them. Poor child.

InTheFade 08-06-2007 12:33 PM

Oh my god, now Stella's gonna get accused of being racist :rolleyes:

Bells 08-06-2007 12:34 PM

Nope, just of being ignorant, not as tolerant as she could be, and not really knowing what she's on about.

ttw 08-06-2007 12:39 PM

Nah, racist - no doubt about it.

She said "you ppl taking over the country" something along those lines.

Racist.

Mrluvaluva 08-06-2007 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jaz0
Oh my god, now Stella's going to get accused of being racist :rolleyes:
Your point is?

tornado 08-06-2007 12:45 PM

get a grip

Fom 08-06-2007 12:49 PM

she said if you dont like england, move

not racist watsoever, its just because its aimed at a black person everyone is like... OMGG RACIIST

tornado 08-06-2007 12:51 PM

yes i totaly agree but if a black person was rasist to a white person no one would care !!

Mrluvaluva 08-06-2007 12:51 PM

It wasn't exactly phrased like that now was it?

InTheFade 08-06-2007 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Quote:

Originally posted by Jaz0
Oh my god, now Stella's going to get accused of being racist :rolleyes:
Your point is?
Haha, what do you mean 'your point is', my point is that now everyone's on her case, it wouldn't surprise me if she got accused of being racist, I thought my point was pretty obvious... Seriously, talking about this subject is like treading on fooking eggshells...


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