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Tony Montana 28-05-2019 05:17 PM

Doctor under investigation after asking Muslim patient to remove her veil
 
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More than 60,000 people have signed a petition backing a doctor who is under investigation for asking a Muslim patient to remove her veil.

Dr Keith Wolverson says he told the woman to take off her niqab so he could hear her describe what was wrong with her child.

He was reported to his bosses at Royal Stoke University Hospital after the patient’s husband complained she was upset by his “rude” request.

The freelance GP, who has been practising for 23 years, admits he is now ”rather fearful of the consequences” after finding out he has been reported to the General Medical Council (GMC) and will be the subject of a racial discrimination inquiry.

He said he would continue to “fight to the bitter end” in order to carry on working in the profession.

Speaking about the incident, the 52-year-old from Derby said: “I asked a lady to remove her face veil for adequate communication, in the same way I’d ask a motorcyclist to remove a crash helmet.
“When the letter came through, I was rather fearful of the consequences.

“I’m a little bit sad the country has been committed to depths such as this.

“But it takes more than this to knock me off my perch.”

Dr Wolverson said he was “absolutely bowled over” by the petition on change.org, which has now reached over 60,990 signatures.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-a8930176.html


Here's the petition
https://www.change.org/p/general-med...-getting-fired

Jessica. 28-05-2019 05:18 PM

He's only under investigation, not facing sack.

Tony Montana 28-05-2019 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 10565384)
He's only under investigation, not facing sack.

Oops, I could've sworn it said facing sack at first.

user104658 28-05-2019 05:27 PM

She wasn't the patient and there was no medical reason to have her remove it so I'm dubious about his motivations for doing so. He also seems not to be apologetic about it in the slightest and is essentially still claiming the moral high-ground, which isn't going to go in his favour.

MTVN 28-05-2019 05:28 PM

So it describes her as a patient but then says she was there about her child. I'm sure the doctor was quite capable of hearing her through the veil so I don't think there was a need for her to remove it in this case

UserSince2005 28-05-2019 05:37 PM

Crazy, this shouldnt be happening in london.

Ammi 28-05-2019 05:39 PM

...I’m interested as to who the creator of the petition is...


“I believe he acted in the best interest of the child involved and there was no racist or religious discrimination in his actions.

“We need to ensure the General Medical Council treat this man fairly and look at all the evidence.

“Our NHS is severely understaffed and we cannot afford to lose doctors due to fabricated accusations of discrimination.”


...How could they possibly know whether something had been ‘fabricated’ or know that no discrimination had taken place..?...

Oliver_W 28-05-2019 06:11 PM

Why is this even something to be investigated? It can be hard to hear what they're saying through those things.

Crimson Dynamo 28-05-2019 06:23 PM

And she was upset why?

Daniel-X 28-05-2019 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10565447)
Why is this even something to be investigated? It can be hard to hear what they're saying through those things.

this is just- beyond words.

user104658 28-05-2019 06:51 PM

"I’m a little bit sad the country has been committed to depths such as this."

Tells you all you need to know really. If he genuinely didn't realise that he was being insensitive he would just say so, apologise, and the GMC would send him on some sort of 2-hour training course and that would be the end of it. But that would stick in his throat because when it comes down to it, the truth is probably that he just thinks "those garments don't belong in the UK".

Marsh. 28-05-2019 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10565447)
Why is this even something to be investigated? It can be hard to hear what they're saying through those things.

Are you for real?

It's like saying women need to move their hair out the way to be able to hear.

Alf 28-05-2019 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10565542)
"I’m a little bit sad the country has been committed to depths such as this."

Tells you all you need to know really. If he genuinely didn't realise that he was being insensitive he would just say so, apologise, and the GMC would send him on some sort of 2-hour training course and that would be the end of it. But that would stick in his throat because when it comes down to it, the truth is probably that he just thinks "those garments don't belong in the UK".

2 hour 1984 watch your thought crime indoctrination course?

joeysteele 28-05-2019 06:57 PM

Going to be controversial here.

I think he was right just as Jack Straw was years ago too.

I'm sorry but I think I and everyone have the right to see who we are talking to.
I support his stand.

Oliver_W 28-05-2019 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10565547)
Are you for real?

It's like saying women need to move their hair out the way to be able to hear.

Not necessarily. Sometimes the material on those outfits are pretty thick, so it muffles the speech. If the lady had a strong accent, I could believe it was hard to hear her clearly.

Marsh. 28-05-2019 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10565552)
2 hour 1984 watch your thought crime indoctrination course?

Why do you always bring up "thought crimes" in threads about people's actions?

Thoughts cease to be just that when they become words and actions.

GiRTh 28-05-2019 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10565563)
Not necessarily. Sometimes the material on those outfits are pretty thick, so it muffles the speech. If the lady had a strong accent, I could believe it was hard to hear her clearly.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Alf 28-05-2019 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10565584)
Why do you always bring up "thought crimes" in threads about people's actions?

Thoughts cease to be just that when they become words and actions.

Because the doctor thought it would be easier to communicate with her if he could see her. And now is being accused of some sort of a crime for that thought.

Is that an acceptable explanation?

Twosugars 28-05-2019 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10565625)
Because the doctor thought it would be easier to communicate with her if he could see her. And now is being accused of some sort of a crime for that thought.

Is that an acceptable explanation?

Ever heard of the telephone?
You don't need to see somebody to communicate

Amy Jade 28-05-2019 07:19 PM

I mean if he was having trouble communicating with her...she could have a thick accent.

Kate! 28-05-2019 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10565559)
Going to be controversial here.

I think he was right just as Jack Straw was years ago too.

I'm sorry but I think I and everyone have the right to see who we are talking to.
I support his stand.

This.

Alf 28-05-2019 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10565628)
Ever heard of the telephone?
You don't need to see somebody to communicate

Wasn’t she in his place of work? Be a bit weird ringing her up while she's there in front of him.

Jordan. 28-05-2019 07:20 PM

The fact he tried to defend himself by comparing it to a motorcycle helmet is enough proof of how ignorant he is.

Amy Jade 28-05-2019 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10565628)
Ever heard of the telephone?
You don't need to see somebody to communicate

In fairness if you shoved something over the phone you may have trouble hearing

Marsh. 28-05-2019 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10565625)
Because the doctor thought it would be easier to communicate with her if he could see her. And now is being accused of some sort of a crime for that thought.

Is that an acceptable explanation?

No. Because, again, that's not a thought that is an action.

If someone gets raped, the rapist doesn't get arrested for thinking about raping her, he's arrested for the action of raping her.

Equally, this doctor is not under investigation for any thoughts he had, but for his actual treatment of this woman.


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