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Crimson Dynamo 06-06-2019 09:09 AM

As a left leaning person, what do you make of J Corbyn?
 
So you would probably vote Labour or used to

what do you make of your leader, Jeremy Corbyn?


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Northern Monkey 06-06-2019 09:37 AM

My hero.So progressive.

Niamh. 06-06-2019 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10580419)
My hero.So progressive.

I don't avidly follow your politics but obviously pick up bits and pieces, and I did like him originally but it seems like he's trying to be so progressive he's actually started to become regressive in some ways, if that makes sense?

Kate! 06-06-2019 09:42 AM

I like Jeremy. He's not perfect and doesn't pretend to be.

Liam- 06-06-2019 09:45 AM

He’s trying to be a people pleaser with the whole Brexit thing but that won’t work, he needs to pick a side and be done with it, but in general, I agree with the majority of his policies, as he says, he’s for the many, not the few, he’s want to make the lives of every day normal people better, not just the rich like the Tories and Farage.

Livia 06-06-2019 09:46 AM

I'm not left-leaning as most people probably know, but I hold Corbyn responsible for the current rise in anti-Semitic attacks in the UK by making anti-Semitism acceptable. I also hate that he has close ties to some of the most despicable terrorists and despots in the world, people and organisations that have actively targeted this country, who are responsible for the deaths of innocent people.

Vicky. 06-06-2019 09:48 AM

I loved him to start with, I raved about him on here and its really embarassing looking back, I fell for everything. I find him fake as **** and someone who will just SAY anything to get a cheer but not actually mean it. He just flip flops around on important topics trying to please both sides and I cannot imagine him actually in power. Ontop of that, since then I have became aware of a fair few views he has that I completely disagree with and also am aware of a lot of his plans (when he actually makes plans rathet than fluffing with words) that I geninely think would 'ruin the country'. Now, I tend to agree with him on austerity, but not much else at all, but even that, who knows if he will actually do anything about the awful tory policies or not, I half think he wont and will just spend years going on about how awful the tories were but how its not an easy fix, yadayadyada. I could not vote for Labour because of him. And, this is an odd place for me. As I have always voted Labour. Even more an odd place when I think where I was as little as a year or so ago, when I really did see him as some kind of saviour!

Nicky91 06-06-2019 09:49 AM

i like the Labour party myself in my country Netherlands, they were once the biggest party here, now they had fallen a bit, but i like their never give up mentality and Always try to come with new ideas to win back some voters


Jeremy here for Labour, well i just dislike the anti-semitic things so i think someone more left than him would be making a better leader for Labour

Crimson Dynamo 06-06-2019 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10580430)
He’s trying to be a people pleaser with the whole Brexit thing but that won’t work, he needs to pick a side and be done with it, but in general, I agree with the majority of his policies, as he says, he’s for the many, not the few, he’s want to make the lives of every day normal people better, not just the rich like the Tories and Farage.

Farage isnt rich :joker:

( and dont forget its the "rich" that provide the jobs)

Northern Monkey 06-06-2019 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10580425)
I don't avidly follow your politics but obviously pick up bits and pieces, and I did like him originally but it seems like he's trying to be so progressive he's actually started to become regressive in some ways, if that makes sense?

You’d have a job on following my politics as even I don’t understand it :laugh:

I was joking about Corbyn though.

He’s terrible.He’s destroyed the Labour party and made them unelectable imo.

arista 06-06-2019 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10580452)
You’d have a job on following my politics as even I don’t understand it :laugh:

I was joking about Corbyn though.

He’s terrible.He’s destroyed the Labour party and made them unelectable imo.



Stop posting Jokes
you are not on Chat and Games, now
NM

Niamh. 06-06-2019 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10580452)
You’d have a job on following my politics as even I don’t understand it :laugh:

I was joking about Corbyn though.

He’s terrible.He’s destroyed the Labour party and made them unelectable imo.

Oh no i guessed you were joking about Corbyn, I was agreeing with you :p

Vicky. 06-06-2019 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10580452)
You’d have a job on following my politics as even I don’t understand it :laugh:

I was joking about Corbyn though.

He’s terrible.He’s destroyed the Labour party and made them unelectable imo.

Hmm I am not too sure on that part given the absolute state of the Tories at the moment. At an 'normal' time in history then yes, but the approval ratings of both are ****ing dire, so bad it should be embarassing them but seems not to be. I know so many who will not vote Labour solely because of Corbyn, but far far too many people would vote the way they vote regardless..which I think is why parties such as Labour and Tories get so complacent tbh, as whatever they do, they have a large amount of voters ready to lick their feet.

Now it looks a bit like its going to start where theres other parties involved in the race for the top fairly soon, but I still don't think it will happen in a GE quite yet. Lib Dems were slowly slowly climibing up years back, and seem to be getting there again, god knows how the brexit party will do in an actual general election as its different but..its all quite interesting. I do think theres a possibility..that Corbyn will get into power. Though most likely via a coalition..possibly a coalition with like 4 other parties or something too!

Northern Monkey 06-06-2019 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10580454)
Stop posting Jokes
you are not on Chat and Games, now
NM

I don’t go on chat and games.Way too serious for that.

Liam- 06-06-2019 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10580451)
Farage isnt rich :joker:

( and dont forget its the "rich" that provide the jobs)

I didn’t say he was? He might not be personally rich (even though he’s very well paid) so his luxury lifestyle is funded by his billionaire pals, the only people besides himself that he’s interested in helping get richer.

Jezza is all for a fairer, more balanced society where everyone has a better opportunity to prosper.

Livia 06-06-2019 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10580460)
I didn’t say he was? He might not be personally rich (even though he’s very well paid) so his luxury lifestyle is funded by his billionaire pals, the only people besides himself that he’s interested in helping get richer.

Jezza is all for a fairer, more balanced society where everyone has a better opportunity to prosper
.

For the many. Not the Jew.

chuff me dizzy 06-06-2019 10:13 AM

He's no leader, he will never be fit to lead this country ,you cannot pick and choose who you talk to ,you choose to cosy up to terrorists but refuse to attend a dinner in honour of a man of peace ?

Northern Monkey 06-06-2019 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10580457)
Hmm I am not too sure on that part given the absolute state of the Tories at the moment. At an 'normal' time in history then yes, but the approval ratings of both are ****ing dire, so bad it should be embarassing them but seems not to be. I know so many who will not vote Labour solely because of Corbyn, but far far too many people would vote the way they vote regardless..which I think is why parties such as Labour and Tories get so complacent tbh, as whatever they do, they have a large amount of voters ready to lick their feet.

Now it looks a bit like its going to start where theres other parties involved in the race for the top fairly soon, but I still don't think it will happen in a GE quite yet. Lib Dems were slowly slowly climibing up years back, and seem to be getting there again, god knows how the brexit party will do in an actual general election as its different but..its all quite interesting. I do think theres a possibility..that Corbyn will get into power. Though most likely via a coalition..possibly a coalition with like 4 other parties or something too!

Yes a GE now would be fascinating.Definitely would be a hung parliament.

The two main parties are in dire straights.
I voted Labour in 2015 thinking ‘well i should vote for somebody’ and regretted it soon after.Never voted Tory.
In a GE now i’d probably just sit back and watch the fireworks.UK politics is a spectators sport for me now.It’s just a mess.

Maybe the country needs some kind of multi party coalition now to bring it back together.

bots 06-06-2019 10:15 AM

As a life long labour supporter/voter, i would like Corbyn to stay in charge as long as possible

Livia 06-06-2019 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10580470)
As a life long labour supporter/voter, i would like Corbyn to stay in charge as long as possible

Do you think he could win a general election?

bots 06-06-2019 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10580473)
Do you think he could win a general election?

it's weird because i dont think the tories or labour could win an election if it were held now. They are both going to need to get their act together very quickly if thats going to change.

Livia 06-06-2019 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10580476)
it's weird because i dont think the tories or labour could win an election if it were held now. They are both going to need to get their act together very quickly if thats going to change.

Agree with that, they'd both be wiped out at a GE, not sure what that would look like exactly, but it'd be a mess.

arista 06-06-2019 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10580458)
I don’t go on chat and games.Way too serious for that.


You may have a laugh
you never know

joeysteele 06-06-2019 10:40 AM

He was never my choice of leader.
Still isn't.
The last election stunned me in how well he did from around at least 15% behind the Cons.

I would prefer him not as leader now.
He is in fact at odds with Labour members and voters on brexit.

Really, I think he'd like to leave the EU completely.
He has never been a real supporter of the EU.

In a general election now, he is the more likely to lead a government but it would need Lib Dems and SNP+ to govern I think.

I don't see him as Prime Minister, then again for near 3 years we've had a PM I think and am sure should never have been anyway.

However, my negativity to Corbyn as a member and supporter does not continue into his policies he has brought into being.

I support the vast majority of his policies, nationalisation and social care and attitude to the vulnerable, sick and disabled.

However I don't see him as the one now to go forward.
I'd rather another leader.

I don't believe he is an anti semite but am appalled at his failure to stamp it out.
I, in the party don't see it as rife as many claim.
However I was directed to the most valid point by Livia, one case of proven antisemitism is too many.
I agree.
He has not done so, and I don't believe that can be repaired with him leading the Party now.

So would like him gone as leader.
I neither like or dislike him.
I'm indifferent to him.

I never voted for him as leader, I wouldn't now.
I think it's time to go.

Although the Party for its policies has my support.

Crimson Dynamo 06-06-2019 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10580460)

Jezza is all for a fairer, more balanced society where everyone has a better opportunity to prosper.

Do you know anywhere in earth where this happens?


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