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bots 23-07-2019 07:18 AM

Theresa May - Worst PM in British history?
 
I think so, i'm struggling to think of a single thing she has handled competently. Poll incoming

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Beso 23-07-2019 07:28 AM

She didn't lie to us so she could start a war so no...I doubt she is.

Crimson Dynamo 23-07-2019 07:31 AM

+1

Cherie 23-07-2019 07:38 AM

She has introduced a milkshake tax :hehe:

I think it is unfair to judge her as the worst, she took over at the worst possible time when literally no one else stood up to the plate so she should be applauded for that at the very least, and yeah she didn't take us to war :laugh:

Kazanne 23-07-2019 07:46 AM

To be fair she was kind of overtaken by Brexit to do much else,I think she was ok but needed to do what the people voted for.

Crimson Dynamo 23-07-2019 08:04 AM

lets not forget how bad Gordon Brown was

user104658 23-07-2019 08:24 AM

She has been ineffective but her hands have been tied by Brexit and the disteibutiin of MPs in Parliament. Under identical circumstances and party numbers, no one could really have done differently.

It is the most laughable and incompetent overall government, though.

But hey... We haven't had Boris yet so let's not jump the gun.

Twosugars 23-07-2019 08:51 AM

She reduced her own majority by calling general election

But let's wait for the blond clown antics before deciding :dance:

Northern Monkey 23-07-2019 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10636451)
She has been ineffective but her hands have been tied by Brexit and the disteibutiin of MPs in Parliament. Under identical circumstances and party numbers, no one could really have done differently.

It is the most laughable and incompetent overall government, though.

But hey... We haven't had Boris yet so let's not jump the gun.

This really.It was a poisoned chalice for anyone.

However.Theresa has made some fatal errors which put her in the weak position she was in.

The snap election to try and strengthen her position after saying there would be no election.
Then after calling the election totally f’king up her campaign.
It should’ve been an easy win against Labour.They were against the ropes.All she had to do was run a competent middle of the road campaign and she had it in the bag.
But no,Theresa decided to try and introduce some dementia tax for social care and then had to do U-turn part way through her campaign and pretend nothing had changed.
Then she starts flirting with fox hunting again.
How the hell did she manage to make herself nearly as unpopular as Corbyn?

She’s probably at least the worst PM in recent history.

user104658 23-07-2019 09:13 AM

For me it's a stretch to believe that the snap election was really May's idea or that she had any meaningful say in whether or not it was happening, however, yes, some of the unpopular stuff she came out with at the time (e.g.fox hunting) was mind-boggling. WHY would anyone bring up fox hunting when running an election campaign? Surely they know the idea is only going to be popular with an absolutely miniscule niche? Just odd.

Nicky91 23-07-2019 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10636457)
She reduced her own majority by calling general election

But let's wait for the blond clown antics before deciding :dance:



he isn't prime minister yet, but there are already protests ongoing against him :laugh2:

chuff me dizzy 23-07-2019 09:16 AM

Blair was worse than her

chuff me dizzy 23-07-2019 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10636441)
lets not forget how bad Gordon Brown was

Yes him as well as Blair

Liam- 23-07-2019 09:19 AM

I mean, she obviously completely bungled Brexit, but that was in part due to the rest of the people in government who were hell bent on not letting her do anything on the issue, she was damned either way.

However, Brexit aside, she made some bad decisions too, the Windrush scandal being one of them, the deportation of gay immigrants back to countries that will kill them, the ‘go home’ bus, her time as PM will mainly be remembered for her incompetence, but her cruelty shouldn’t be forgotten as a conciquence.

user104658 23-07-2019 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10636474)
Yes him as well as Blair

Blair wasn't an incompetent PM or leader in the same way as May, though, so I guess it depends on what we mean by "the worst". What makes Blair "the worst" isn't the day-to-day business, it's Iraq. Which obviously was a total cluster****.

That said I still maintain that Iraq went waaay beyond party politics and it doesn't matter who was in power (in the UK or the US) at the time, there were far greater tides in motion in the early 2000's and it would have gone down in EXACTLY the same way no matter who was in The White House / No.10.

Northern Monkey 23-07-2019 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10636480)
Blair wasn't an incompetent PM or leader in the same way as May, though, so I guess it depends on what we mean by "the worst". What makes Blair "the worst" isn't the day-to-day business, it's Iraq. Which obviously was a total cluster****.

That said I still maintain that Iraq went waaay beyond party politics and it doesn't matter who was in power (in the UK or the US) at the time, there were far greater tides in motion in the early 2000's and it would have gone down in EXACTLY the same way no matter who was in The White House / No.10.

Yep.The project for the new American Century went above any president.

user104658 23-07-2019 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10636477)
I mean, she obviously completely bungled Brexit, but that was in part due to the rest of the people in government who were hell bent on not letting her do anything on the issue, she was damned either way.

However, Brexit aside, she made some bad decisions too, the Windrush scandal being one of them, the deportation of gay immigrants back to countries that will kill them, the ‘go home’ bus, her time as PM will mainly be remembered for her incompetence, but her cruelty shouldn’t be forgotten as a conciquence.

Again similar to above; I don't think anyone could have done any different re: Brexit. Parliament is stuck in quicksand with it, it's not a problem that anyone could have fixed, and it's not over yet. The idea that a new PM is going to have it sorted by October is full-on hilarious. There are literally only two possibilities in October. One is that it's still not sorted and we ask for yet more time, two is that we crash out in a disastrous slapstick fall Brexit.

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bots 23-07-2019 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10636469)
For me it's a stretch to believe that the snap election was really May's idea or that she had any meaningful say in whether or not it was happening, however, yes, some of the unpopular stuff she came out with at the time (e.g.fox hunting) was mind-boggling. WHY would anyone bring up fox hunting when running an election campaign? Surely they know the idea is only going to be popular with an absolutely miniscule niche? Just odd.

don't forget the stitch up on the elderly either with her payments cap ... ideal vote winner :laugh:

May was entirely responsible for calling the election, nobody outside her circle of 2 others (no mp's were involved) That's why the tory mp's looked at the manifesto and said ... what? :laugh:

This is one of the main reasons i think she is the worst in history

joeysteele 23-07-2019 10:05 AM

Yes.
Up to now that is.

Worse may be coming through the door of power this week.

reece(: 23-07-2019 11:13 AM

She's diabolical but BoJo will be worse

Oliver_W 23-07-2019 11:20 AM

It's not really fair to judge, to be honest. With parliament and the EU being as uncooperative as possible over Brexit, she couldn't just get it over with and then get on with her premiership, she was shackled by that nonsense.

Mitchell 23-07-2019 11:21 AM

Not anymore!

Nicky91 23-07-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10636532)
It's not really fair to judge, to be honest. With parliament and the EU being as uncooperative as possible over Brexit, she couldn't just get it over with and then get on with her premiership, she was shackled by that nonsense.

:notimpressed: EU gave you guys a lot of time, and btw we are already long prepared for that ''no deal brexit'' so the british scare tactics towards us are irrelevant

Mitchell 23-07-2019 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10636535)
:notimpressed: EU gave you guys a lot of time, and btw we are already long prepared for that ''no deal brexit'' so the british scare tactics towards us are irrelevant

I’m so glad that we have Angela Merkel on TiBB

Tom4784 23-07-2019 11:25 AM

It would be unfair to call her that given that I don't think anyone could have made Brexit work in that period of time given that Brexiters can't agree on what Brexit means. There's only so much a PM can do if every option that's presented is voted down, not even voting on every possibility turned up any viable options.


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