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Crimson Dynamo 27-07-2019 01:48 PM

The U.S. Supreme Court allowed President Donald Trump to begin building the wall
 
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The U.S. Supreme Court allowed President Donald Trump to begin
building the wall on the U.S.-Mexico border using emergency funds, lifting an
injunction Friday that had been imposed by a district court in California and
upheld by the Ninth Circuit.


After Congress refused to appropriate enough funding to build a barrier along
the border earlier this year, President Trump declared a national emergency to
allow the administration to access more money. In total, he ordered $8 billion
spent — though, only $3.6 billion needed an emergency declaration.


The president was exultant on Twitter:

Wow! Big VICTORY on the Wall. The United States Supreme Court overturns
lower court injunction, allows Southern Border Wall to proceed. Big WIN for
Border Security and the Rule of Law!


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The decision was largely along partisan lines, with all five Republican-
appointed justices voting to lift the injunction, while all three liberal justices
were opposed. Justice Stephen Breyer sought to have it both ways, allowing
the process to go forward but not the construction: “There is a
straightforward way to avoid harm to both the Government and respondents
while allowing the litigation to proceed. Allowing the Government to finalize
the contracts at issue, but not to begin construction, would al- leviate the
most pressing harm claimed by the Government without risking irreparable
harm to respondents.”


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/ameri...055453344.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49135255
https://www.breitbart.com/border/201...ts-injunction/

arista 27-07-2019 01:54 PM

Yes they like a Wall in Texas
slows down the illegals.

Twosugars 27-07-2019 01:55 PM

Thanks to the right wing judges he picked. I'm shocked.

Breitbart as news source again :laugh:

Nicky91 27-07-2019 02:07 PM

now come on Donnie, put the first section of the wall up yourself

it's your wall after all you've fought and cried over for a very long time, so show some initiative and other workers will follow you

Tom4784 27-07-2019 02:08 PM

A ridiculous waste of money that just shows the Right Wing have turned the Supreme Court into a tool to push their bull****. Using Emergency funds to do it is just beyond gross.

Crimson Dynamo 27-07-2019 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10641251)
now come on Donnie, put the first section of the wall up yourself

it's your wall after all you've fought and cried over for a very long time, so show some initiative and other workers will follow you

Nicky he is in his 70s

heave a heart?

bots 27-07-2019 03:45 PM

they haven't spent the money allocated for the wall in 2018 yet, so it's all a bit premature :laugh:

Nicky91 27-07-2019 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10641264)
Nicky he is in his 70s

heave a heart?

well he is currently at a stressful job as leader of the free world

and his medical check up was fine, the other day what we heard

Oliver_W 27-07-2019 11:35 PM

FINALLY!

Shaun 28-07-2019 02:00 AM

So Mexico aren't paying for it, then? :hehe:

Marsh. 28-07-2019 02:18 AM

Building a step for the Mexicans. :love:

Tom4784 28-07-2019 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10641830)
FINALLY!

You're happy about money that's used for emergencies being wasted on a wall that is essentially a monument to the worst president the US will ever have?

Liam- 28-07-2019 12:06 PM

Cause **** the hurricanes, earthquakes and wildfires right? Gotta keep out those Mexicans.

Crimson Dynamo 28-07-2019 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10641992)
Cause **** the hurricanes, earthquakes and wildfires right? Gotta keep out those Mexicans.

that does not make any sense ?

Tom4784 28-07-2019 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10641997)
that does not make any sense ?

Ignoring the fact that Trump went back on his word to make Mexico pay for the wall and is instead using funds from the emergency fund (that is both used to help prepare areas for natural disasters and to aid in their recovery) doesn't make it so that Liam isn't speaking sense, it just means you are ignoring facts that don't benefit your views.

Oliver_W 28-07-2019 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10641991)
You're happy about money that's used for emergencies being wasted on a wall that is essentially a monument to the worst president the US will ever have?

Limiting illegal migration to the USA will mean fewer people are held in the detention centres. Surely that's a good thing?

Marsh. 28-07-2019 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10642012)
Limiting illegal migration to the USA will mean fewer people are held in the detention centres. Surely that's a good thing?

Nobody has a problem with immigration procedures. Humane immigration procedures.

An expensive and even more pointless wall that serves no purpose and is using emergency funds is nothing more than an ego trip.

Livia 28-07-2019 12:43 PM

he current system is clearly not working well. Like Oliver says, completing the wall will mean no detention centres. People from poor countries will always try to get into richer, developed countries. There isn't enough room for everyone.

After the conquistadors, maybe Mexico and others should be thinking about asking Spain for help? Like countries once in the Empire and now in the Commonwealth? We're constantly told we're responsible for all the ills in these countries why is Spain not getting it in the neck? It makes as much sense as blaming any other country who once had an empire.

Livia 28-07-2019 12:44 PM

My husband is Texan. He hates Trump... but he does say that illegal immigration is a massive problem. And I believe him.

Marsh. 28-07-2019 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10642023)
he current system is clearly not working well. Like Oliver says, completing the wall will mean no detention centres. People from poor countries will always try to get into richer, developed countries. There isn't enough room for everyone.

Of course a solution needs to be found. But is this wall that solution? Not very likely.

And using the country's emergency funds? It's just barbaric tbh.

chuff me dizzy 28-07-2019 12:48 PM

He is fulfilling a promise he made to the American people ,what's not to applaud by him doing this ?

Tom4784 28-07-2019 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10642012)
Limiting illegal migration to the USA will mean fewer people are held in the detention centres. Surely that's a good thing?

Except most security experts agree that a wall would do nothing and so it's essentially a monument to Trump's incompetence that will eat up money that should be used for disaster relief.

'If we build a wall that won't do anything then we'll have no need for concentration camps!' What kind of grim ****ing dystopia? It's also a useless statement since people are being detained in these camps when they try to seek immigration legally, hell, there are incidents in which US citizens have been detained in these camps for weeks based purely on their race.

How about the US do that they wrote into their own law and adhere to the Flores Agreement? Every other president has had to deal with immigration crises and none of them have ever resorted to concentration camps. No amount of spin can change the fact that what is going on in the US is rotten and is a result of the current administration's continued racism and dehumanisation of non-white immigrants.

Marsh. 28-07-2019 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10642036)
He is fulfilling a promise he made to the American people ,what's not to applaud by him doing this ?

He's not fulfilled a single promise. He promised the American people they wouldn't pay a cent for it.

Tom4784 28-07-2019 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10642036)
He is fulfilling a promise he made to the American people ,what's not to applaud by him doing this ?

He isn't fulfilling a promise, Mexico isn't paying for it and the money is coming out of the emergency fund, a fund that is used to help areas in the US recover from natural disasters and these disasters happen every year, it's not a rainy day fund that Trump can dip into guilt free because it's never used. It's used frequently and there's not enough money in it to begin with.

Do you think he should be applauded for taking money away from future victims who will have nothing when disaster strikes? Do you?

Oliver_W 28-07-2019 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10642037)
Except most security experts agree that a wall would do nothing and so it's essentially a monument to Trump's incompetence that will eat up money that should be used for disaster relief.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10642031)
Of course a solution needs to be found. But is this wall that solution? Not very likely.

Walls work.

The border fence in Israel cut illegal immigration by 99%, Hungary found erecting a border wall cut illegal immigration by a similar %, and Bulgaria's border wall saw illegals decrease seven-fold.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10642037)
'If we build a wall that won't do anything then we'll have no need for concentration camps!'

They're still not concentration camps :)


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