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Twosugars 30-07-2019 04:50 PM

Prince Harry on racism
 
Harry talks with Jane Goodall, a legendary biologist, in the September issue of Vogue guest-edited by his wife Meghan
Thoughtful prince and duchess :)


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Prince Harry: unconscious bias affects whether you are racist
Perception is learned from family, advertising or surrounding environment, the duke says

Prince Harry has spoken of how “unconscious bias” can affect racism, saying that many people fail to acknowledge their own bias due to their upbringing and environment.

The Duke of Sussex made the remarks during an interview with conservationist and primatologist Jane Goodall.

He also spoke of his fears for the future of the planet, and that he and his wife planned to have a maximum of two children. Their first child, Archie, was born in May.

In the interview, printed in the September edition of British Vogue magazine which was guest-edited by the Duchess of Sussex, he and Goodall discuss how humans should live in harmony with the natural world, and aim to leave something better behind for the next generation.

Praising her work, and its focus on the younger generation, he said: “[When] you start to peel away all the layers, all the taught behaviour, the learned behaviour, the experienced behaviour … at the end of the day, we’re all humans.”

Goodall said: “Especially if you get little kids together, there’s no difference. They don’t notice: ‘my skin’s white, mine’s black’ until somebody tells them.”

Harry said: “But again, just as stigma is handed down from generation to generation, your perspective on the world and on life and on people is something that is taught to you. It’s learned from your family, learned from the older generation, or from advertising, from your environment.”

Asked whether her research on chimpanzees had affected how she felt about people, Goodall said it had shown her humans had a lot of instincts, and inherited aggressive tendencies. “They’re not learned. They’re just there,” she said.

Harry said: “It’s the same as an unconscious bias – something which so many people don’t understand, why they feel the way that they do. Despite the fact that if you go up to someone and say: ‘What you’ve just said, or the way that you’ve behaved, is racist,’ they’ll turn around and say: ‘I’m not a racist.’

I’m not saying that you’re a racist, I’m just saying that your unconscious bias is proving that, because of the way that you’ve been brought up, the environment you’ve been brought up in, suggests that you have this point of view – unconscious point of view – where naturally you will look at someone in a different way. And that is the point at which people start to have to understand.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-people-racist

arista 30-07-2019 05:12 PM

Yes Good Views from Harry.

Crimson Dynamo 30-07-2019 05:16 PM

smh

Marsh. 30-07-2019 05:21 PM

That bolded bit is very true.

Cherie 30-07-2019 06:55 PM

They don’t notice: ‘my skin’s white, mine’s black’ until somebody tells them.”

me in the million pound gamer thread :laugh:

GiRTh 30-07-2019 07:02 PM

Interesting. :think:

Nicky91 30-07-2019 07:33 PM

Jane :love:

Ammi 30-07-2019 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10645451)
Interesting. :think:

...yes, interesting..:laugh:...

GiRTh 30-07-2019 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10645494)
...yes, interesting..:laugh:...

Fascinating :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 30-07-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10645451)
Interesting. :think:

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10645494)
...yes, interesting..:laugh:...

Its nice in this day and age see two royalists on Tibb

:clap1:

GiRTh 30-07-2019 07:57 PM

Its nice in this day and age to see the royal family making such statements. :thumbs:

Crimson Dynamo 30-07-2019 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10645525)
Its nice in this day and age to see the royal family making such statements. :thumbs:

Lovely to see a supporting monarchist member

GiRTh 30-07-2019 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10645529)
Lovely to see a supporting monarchist member

I never realised you were a royalist. When did this happen?

GiRTh 30-07-2019 08:13 PM

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Harry said: “But again, just as stigma is handed down from generation to generation, your perspective on the world and on life and on people is something that is taught to you. It’s learned from your family, learned from the older generation, or from advertising, from your environment.”
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Ammi 30-07-2019 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10645525)
Its nice in this day and age to see the royal family making such statements. :thumbs:

...yeah it’s all kinds of wonderful, Girth...to see such a prominent and popular member of the royals, address the issue of racism in such a direct way and with so much thoughtful and insightful wisdom...I guess to use a forum expression...Meghan did that..we could say...:flutter:...

GiRTh 30-07-2019 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10645592)
...yeah it’s all kinds of wonderful, Girth...to see such a prominent and popular member of the royals, address the issue of racism in such a direct way and with so much thoughtful and insightful wisdom...I guess to use a forum expression...Meghan did that..we could say...:flutter:...

I love the things he's said. Its quite difficult to break his argument down. Very thoughtful and insightful from Harry.

joeysteele 30-07-2019 09:01 PM

I'm very impressed by Prince Harry.

This is a very thoughtful speech.

Crimson Dynamo 30-07-2019 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10645599)
I'm very impressed by Prince Harry.

This is a very thoughtful speech.

It's not a speech, its a pap piece piece in a rancid fashion magazine that is run by pure capitalism that exploits 3rd world countries

Kizzy 30-07-2019 09:20 PM

He's right of course ... and the worst thing is sometimes it's not even consciously you do this. There are psychological tests you can do to assess your level of bias. Harvard do one.

joeysteele 30-07-2019 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10645596)
I love the things he's said. Its quite difficult to break his argument down. Very thoughtful and insightful from Harry.

Yes it is done in a thoughtful way.
That shines through in the words he's said.
Very impressive.

Denver 30-07-2019 11:49 PM

Is this the same guy who dressed up as a nazi?

Marsh. 30-07-2019 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10645709)
Is this the same guy who dressed up as a nazi?

Person does something bad when immature and grows up eventually shocker.

Denver 30-07-2019 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10645710)
Person does something bad when immature and grows up eventually shocker.

He should have been frowned up at 20

Marsh. 31-07-2019 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10645713)
He should have been frowned up at 20

He's human. Are you really condemning him for his whole life for something he did when he was 20?

People can't make mistakes, learn and grow?

Mystic Mock 31-07-2019 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10645709)
Is this the same guy who dressed up as a nazi?

I think that's why I find his comments interesting, he obviously must feel like at one time in his life that he had a subconscious bias, and probably didn't realise the severity of what he was doing when he jokingly wore the Nazi uniform.

Personally for me though I love trying to delve into people's psychology so Harry talking about this is highly fascinating to me.


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