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Twosugars 02-08-2019 01:01 PM

Gun shop targets four Democrat Congresswomen
 
Trump's words being taken one step further.
We've reached stage two in a potential chain of events: Trump-gunshop-customer-act of violence

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'How is this not inciting violence?': gun shop billboard targets the Squad
North Carolina billboard calls congresswomen ‘The 4 Horsemen’ in what anti-gun violence advocates call an incitement to violence


https://i.imgur.com/ngj6LXh.jpg

A billboard erected by the store Cherokee Guns. Photograph: Cherokee Guns via Facebook
A gun shop in North Carolina has erected an advertising billboard invoking an apocalyptic prophesy to mock the progressive Democrats Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts in what anti-gun violence advocates call an incitement to violence.

The billboard, which went up over the weekend, puts images of the four progressive Democratic congresswomen under the phrase “The 4 Horsemen Cometh”, and goes on to describe them as “idiots”.

The Cherokee Guns’ owner, Doc Wacholz, has denied that the billboard on Route 64 outside Murphy is a deliberate provocation. “I’m not inciting any violence or being racist. It’s a statement. It’s an opinion,” he told the Asheville Citizen Times.

However, he then made racist and incorrect statements about the four leftwing congresswomen of color.

“They’re socialists, from my point of view. I also feel a couple of them, being Muslim, have ties to actual terrorists groups,” he said.

The signage joins previous Cherokee Guns billboards that have depicted words or images designed to denigrate Muslim Americans.

In 2017, the store posted an ad for “INFIDEL ARMAMENT” it read in block letters above Arabic script and a rifle. In 2015 the Asheville Citizen-Times reported a billboard that said: “Give me your tired, your poor … Keep your Syrian refugees.”

The incident comes after Donald Trump issued provocative tweets telling Omar, who is Somali American, and her colleagues to “go back” to where they came from. The four congresswomen have become known as “the Squad” and are prominent and vocal critics of the president.

But some groups warned that Wacholz’s advert is a step toward actual violence.

“Threats against members of Congress, particularly minority members, are [trending upward] and it is driven by the president’s racial rhetoric,” the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence wrote in a statement. “This is dangerous!!!”

In a tweet on Wednesday evening, Tlaib asked how the billboard could not be considered an aggressive inducement.

“How the hell is this not inciting violence?” she wrote.

Pressley tweeted: “#Racist rhetoric from the occupant of the @WhiteHouse has made hate our new normal. We are still vulnerable.”

But appeals for civility appear to be falling on deaf ears. Wacholz amped up his attack when the store posted a statement on Facebook that said it planned to produce clothing with the billboard’s image.

“Alright my fellow Infidels for Trump … due to OVERWHELMING demand … you may come by the shop (next week) and get your very own FOUR HORSEMEN COMETH STICKER … simple … eat a piece of bacon … tell us you’re voting for Trump in 2020 … then get your limited edition bumper sticker! (While supplies last!) Snowflakes and Liberals are not eligible … sorry
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tlaib-pressley

Oliver_W 02-08-2019 01:10 PM

As disgusting as this is, I don't see how it's related to Trump - lots of people mock them.

Twosugars 02-08-2019 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10647971)
As disgusting as this is, I don't see how it's related to Trump - lots of people mock them.

Had they been targeted as a group before trump started his hateful crusade?

Oliver_W 02-08-2019 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10647975)
Had they been targeted as a group before trump started his hateful crusade?

I don't follow that stuff too much so not sure, AOC and Omar certainly were lumped in together.

Is it a "hateful crusade"? I thought he only mentioned them once.

LeatherTrumpet 02-08-2019 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10647975)
Had they been targeted as a group before trump started his hateful crusade?

they are pretty hateful people so what do they expect?

fan mail?

Toy Soldier 02-08-2019 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10647971)
As disgusting as this is, I don't see how it's related to Trump - lots of people mock them.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/6utVz...d70D/giphy.gif

Twosugars 02-08-2019 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10647989)
they are pretty hateful people so what do they expect?

fan mail?

How are they hateful? Provide evidence

Moniqua 02-08-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10647989)
they are pretty hateful people so what do they expect?

fan mail?

:facepalm:

Twosugars 02-08-2019 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10647982)
I don't follow that stuff too much so not sure, AOC and Omar certainly were lumped in together.

Is it a "hateful crusade"? I thought he only mentioned them once.

Unless you can show otherwise, the link between trump and the above stands
But for a laugh you can try more of your moral gymnastics

bitontheslide 02-08-2019 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10647982)
I don't follow that stuff too much so not sure, AOC and Omar certainly were lumped in together.

Is it a "hateful crusade"? I thought he only mentioned them once.

trump has mentioned the "squad" loads of times in the last couple of weeks, targeting them. so, yes, he has been on a hateful crusade

Livia 02-08-2019 01:40 PM

Trump did lump them together. That's true.

But then they ran with it with all their might. And now someone's called them idiots. I hear worse on here every day. Every hour...

LeatherTrumpet 02-08-2019 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10647993)
How are they hateful? Provide evidence

Ms Omar is an anti-Semite for example as is Ms Tlaib

not nice

all they do is call the president a white supremicist and aracist whilst peddling their failed and unrealistic socialist adgenda

just vile

Twosugars 02-08-2019 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10648005)
Ms Omar is an anti-Semite for example as is Ms Tlaib

not nice

all they do is call the president a white supremicist and aracist whilst peddling their failed and unrealistic socialist adgenda

just vile

Links to their statements please

...you can skip those calling trump a white supremacist and a racist :hee:

Toy Soldier 02-08-2019 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10648005)
Ms Omar is an anti-Semite for example as is Ms Tlaib

not nice

all they do is call the president a white supremicist and aracist whilst peddling their failed and unrealistic socialist adgenda

just vile

He said "provide evidence" LT, not "elaborate". That would mean maybe a tweet or a video or at least some sort of quote...

arista 02-08-2019 01:53 PM

Typical USA
to help sell more Guns

Twosugars 02-08-2019 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10648010)
He said "provide evidence" LT, not "elaborate". That would mean maybe a tweet or a video or at least some sort of quote...

With links, in case LT indulges in editing again

Toy Soldier 02-08-2019 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10648000)
Trump did lump them together. That's true.

But then they ran with it with all their might. And now someone's called them idiots. I hear worse on here every day. Every hour...

The issue isn't them being called idiots, it's them being lined up in a row on an advertising billboard for a gun shop clearly designed to evoke a "target practise" image. A dumb and thinly-veiled threat. It's not a very realistic one and I don't think it's going to immediately lead to any attempts on their lives, but it is part of a very dark attitude that's slowly but surely creeping in, that is inevitably going to end in someone being hurt as a political target.

LeatherTrumpet 02-08-2019 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10648008)
Links to their statements please

...you can skip those calling trump a white supremacist and a racist :hee:

She was forced to apologise for a series of tweets in February which suggested the American Israel Public Affairs Committee was buying influence for pro-Israel policies.

Both Republican and Democratic lawmakers said the tweets inspired anti-Semitic sentiment and commentary about Jews and money.

source: any online news agency you care to look at


Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) is facing scrutiny from conservatives after a video shared on Facebook by a key campaign fundraiser calling Jews “satanic” surfaced Monday:skull:

“Research the truth about the Holocaust, and you’ll definitely start to question what you thought you knew,” says the video’s narrator, before going on to question whether 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust. The narrator also claims Jews invented their historical claim to Israel in a covert effort to control the media. :skull::skull:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rashid...facebook-posts

Toy Soldier 02-08-2019 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10648012)
With links, in case LT indulges in editing again

:joker:

LeatherTrumpet 02-08-2019 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10648012)
With links, in case LT indulges in editing again

You and a few others on here were exposed on Wednesday so i would keep quiet about that little incident if I were you


YOu accused me of editing and were found to be wrong and had to come to me cap in hand to apologise - which I accepted.

:hee:

Toy Soldier 02-08-2019 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10648020)
She was forced to apologise for a series of tweets in February which suggested the American Israel Public Affairs Committee was buying influence for pro-Israel policies.

Both Republican and Democratic lawmakers said the tweets inspired anti-Semitic sentiment and commentary about Jews and money.

source: any online news agency you care to look at


Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) is facing scrutiny from conservatives after a video shared on Facebook by a key campaign fundraiser calling Jews “satanic” surfaced Monday:skull:

“Research the truth about the Holocaust, and you’ll definitely start to question what you thought you knew,” says the video’s narrator, before going on to question whether 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust. The narrator also claims Jews invented their historical claim to Israel in a covert effort to control the media. :skull::skull:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rashid...facebook-posts

As discussed previously, discussing pro-Israel policy is not anti-Semitism. Holocaust denial is obviously abhorrent, yes, but again where is the EVIDENCE LT. The article claims to be discussing a narrated video clip. Where is the clip? It's not there or linked? All you've offered as evidence is a "Daily Beast" article. The Daily Beast, LT. Come on.

MB. 02-08-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10647982)
I don't follow that stuff too much so not sure, AOC and Omar certainly were lumped in together.

Is it a "hateful crusade"? I thought he only mentioned them once.

...yeah, I can tell you "don't follow that stuff too much"

Oliver_W 02-08-2019 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 10648029)
...yeah, I can tell you "don't follow that stuff too much"

Then show me the things I missed?

Toy Soldier 02-08-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10648031)
Then show me the things I missed?

MB isn't your mum Oliver :think:

Livia 02-08-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10648019)
The issue isn't them being called idiots, it's them being lined up in a row on an advertising billboard for a gun shop clearly designed to evoke a "target practise" image. A dumb and thinly-veiled threat. It's not a very realistic one and I don't think it's going to immediately lead to any attempts on their lives, but it is part of a very dark attitude that's slowly but surely creeping in, that is inevitably going to end in someone being hurt as a political target.



Death threats are not the appalling thing they used to be, I'm told.

And at least two of them are anti-Semites. And two wrongs don't make a right.

LeatherTrumpet 02-08-2019 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10648032)
MB isn't your mum Oliver :think:

TS you were just asking me to do research you cant be a rsed to do online stop being a hypocrite and baiting Oliver


:rolleyes:

Oliver_W 02-08-2019 02:13 PM

If you're going to say something happened without backing it up, me saying "no it didn't" holds just as much water.

He only mentioned them once:)

Livia 02-08-2019 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10648026)
As discussed previously, discussing pro-Israel policy is not anti-Semitism. Holocaust denial is obviously abhorrent, yes, but again where is the EVIDENCE LT. The article claims to be discussing a narrated video clip. Where is the clip? It's not there or linked? All you've offered as evidence is a "Daily Beast" article. The Daily Beast, LT. Come on.

You know, it's a common misconception that people are not allowed to criticises Israel. They are. And yet this is dusted off and wheeled out every time an anti-Semite needs support.

Twosugars 02-08-2019 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10648022)
You and a few others on here were exposed on Wednesday so i would keep quiet about that little incident if I were you


YOu accused me of editing and were found to be wrong and had to come to me cap in hand to apologise - which I accepted.

:hee:

Dont edit the past :nono:
I did not apologise to you. On the contrary, I said that your persistent refusal to condemn trump's racist statements tells me more about your attitude than your test results. Especially as it was established the test can be cheated.
Your test results therefore, real or not, prove nothing :hee:

Not to mention that your editing goes way back whenever your doctored original articles and provided inflammatory pictures. All to make things more " interesting"

Toy Soldier 02-08-2019 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10648039)
You know, it's a common misconception that people are not allowed to criticises Israel. They are. And yet this is dusted off and wheeled out every time an anti-Semite needs support.

Claims of anti-semitism are often backed up with quotes that are critical of Israel rather than anti-Semitic, so obviously (if criticism of Israel is OK, and not anti-semitism) pointing those out as false examples should be appropriate? I said literally in the same post that holocaust denial is abhorrent :shrug:. And obviously anti-semitic.

LeatherTrumpet 02-08-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10648043)
Dont edit the past :nono:
I did not apologise to you. On the contrary, I said that your persistent refusal to condemn trump's racist statements tells me more about your attitude than your test results. Especially as it was established the test can be cheated.
Your test results therefore, real or not, prove nothing :hee:

Not to mention that your editing goes way back whenever your doctored original articles and provided inflammatory pictures. All to make things more " interesting"

What was your score from the harvard university test again?

Livia 02-08-2019 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10648044)
Claims of anti-semitism are often backed up with quotes that are critical of Israel rather than anti-Semitic, so obviously (if criticism of Israel is OK, and not anti-semitism) pointing those out as false examples should be appropriate? I said literally in the same post that holocaust denial is abhorrent :shrug:. And obviously anti-semitic.

I didn't suggest you were anti-Semitic, I was referring of course to the subjects in this story. And yes, you are allowed to criticise Israel. Look it up TS, there's loads of information online.

Do you think something should happen to the gun shop owner, for making something you perceive to be a death threat? Some sort of punishment?

Twosugars 02-08-2019 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10648045)
What was your score from the harvard university test again?

Go to the thread and check. It's off topic here

Tom4784 02-08-2019 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10648038)
If you're going to say something happened without backing it up, me saying "no it didn't" holds just as much water.

He only mentioned them once:)

Refusing to do your own research because you don't want to be proven wrong doesn't make what you are saying true. Willing reality to be different doesn't alter the facts. He's been talking about them endlessly.

LeatherTrumpet 02-08-2019 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10648048)
Go to the thread and check. It's off topic here

Just what is the topic actually?

A gun store in the USA has a poster


and?

Twosugars 02-08-2019 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10648052)
Just what is the topic actually?

A gun store in the USA has a poster


and?

Leave the thread then
And stop baiting

Oliver_W 02-08-2019 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10648049)
He's been talking about them endlessly.

When? I'm not watching/reading everything he's said for the past few weeks when you lot obviously have lots of proof he's been saying these things.

Twosugars 02-08-2019 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10648062)
When? I'm not watching/reading everything he's said for the past few weeks when you lot obviously have lots of proof he's been saying these things.

Fair enough, but don't make claims as if you do

LeatherTrumpet 02-08-2019 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10648058)
Leave the thread then
And stop baiting


Its a genuine question - dont be rude and order people around

Twosugars 02-08-2019 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10648068)
Its a genuine question - dont be rude and order people around

I'm not rude.
There's an article with a title, there's a thread title, they all point to the topic at hand.
If you have nothing to say you are free go elsewhere


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