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Crimson Dynamo 14-11-2019 04:14 PM

Disney warns about RACISM in old films
 
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Disney has added warnings about racist stereotypes in classic films, including
Dumbo, The Jungle Book, Peter Pan and Lady and the Tramp.


The films, mostly from the Forties and Fifties, now come with a warning about
offensive tropes on the US company's new streaming service Disney Plus,
which launched on Tuesday.


Among the more notorious scenes from the children's cartoons are the
Siamese cats in the 1955 film Lady and the Tramp, depicting an East Asian
stereotype.


Peter Pan, released in 1953, includes a tribe of Native American characters
who sing a song called “What Makes the Red Man Red?”


The 1941 film Dumbo maintains a crow character called Jim Crow, a reference
to racist laws suppressing and segregating African Americans in the American
South.


Descriptions of the programmes say: “This programme is presented as
originally created. It may contain outdated cultural depictions."

More here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ms-lady-tramp/

arista 14-11-2019 04:17 PM

Yes they are all doing it.

Fawlty Towers
banned from the BBC

Kazanne 14-11-2019 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711616)
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Disney has added warnings about racist stereotypes in classic films, including
Dumbo, The Jungle Book, Peter Pan and Lady and the Tramp.


The films, mostly from the Forties and Fifties, now come with a warning about
offensive tropes on the US company's new streaming service Disney Plus,
which launched on Tuesday.


Among the more notorious scenes from the children's cartoons are the
Siamese cats in the 1955 film Lady and the Tramp, depicting an East Asian
stereotype.


Peter Pan, released in 1953, includes a tribe of Native American characters
who sing a song called “What Makes the Red Man Red?”


The 1941 film Dumbo maintains a crow character called Jim Crow, a reference
to racist laws suppressing and segregating African Americans in the American
South.


Descriptions of the programmes say: “This programme is presented as
originally created. It may contain outdated cultural depictions."

More here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ms-lady-tramp/

Blimey,what next ?

user104658 14-11-2019 04:19 PM

:shrug: When children will be watching it's important to have that context. Better to present the films as they are with some context attached than to cut the content out, surely?

Liam- 14-11-2019 04:19 PM

Classy move

Nicky91 14-11-2019 04:21 PM

WTF, why is the world changing so much towards that ''politically correct''

:shrug: there weren't complaints when these movies premiered in theatres

Crimson Dynamo 14-11-2019 04:22 PM

I may be wrong but i would imagine this would be legally led to avoid lawsuits from nefarious sources?

Kate! 14-11-2019 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10711629)
WTF, why is the world changing so much towards that ''politically correct''

:shrug: there weren't complaints when these movies premiered in theatres

Agree. Far too much of this political correctness crap about. Fgs.

Niamh. 14-11-2019 04:23 PM

It's just a warning before the films air? What's wrong with that?

Tom4784 14-11-2019 04:24 PM

It's the right thing to do, it's better to take an ugly part of history and turn it into a teachable moment rather than scrub it from existence. Better to acknowledge the faults than to brush them under the rug.

Tom4784 14-11-2019 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10711635)
It's just a warning before the films air? What's wrong with that?

To reasonable people, nothing. To armchair warriors that want a reason to sputter about 'PC gone mad', it's everything.

Liam- 14-11-2019 04:31 PM

Imagine being annoyed at a family friendly company taking measures to try and refute racism

LukeB 14-11-2019 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10711620)
Blimey,what next ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10711629)
WTF, why is the world changing so much towards that ''politically correct''

:shrug: there weren't complaints when these movies premiered in theatres

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 10711633)
Agree. Far too much of this political correctness crap about. Fgs.

Don’t know what the big deal is, it’s just a warning about what’s said in the older movies:shrug: they just launched a streaming service with all these movies on so warning is a better move. There’s not really a big fuss about it either.

MB. 14-11-2019 04:58 PM

You people really are out here pretending to care an ounce about the cultural preservation of the racist crows in Dumbo for the sake of your stale "PC gone mad!!!!" stances, huh

Jake. 14-11-2019 04:59 PM

So? Would people rather the content be cut altogether?

Crimson Dynamo 14-11-2019 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 10711672)
You people really are out here pretending to care an ounce about the cultural preservation of the racist crows in Dumbo for the sake of your stale "PC gone mad!!!!" stances, huh

and "you people" really think this about racism and not fear of a lawsuit


huh?

Beso 14-11-2019 05:21 PM

How come this thread ain't fallen into a funny word switch game yet.:shrug:

Twosugars 14-11-2019 05:26 PM

Well done Disney.

Bigotry should be addressed :clap1:

Crimson Dynamo 14-11-2019 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10711690)
Well done Disney.

Bigotry should be addressed :clap1:

Its not about bigotry its about racism as seen today but at the time not intended as such

Twosugars 14-11-2019 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711691)
Its not about bigotry its about racism as seen today but at the time not intended as such

Was it intended as a compliment?

It's the same cancer, pure hate from people who have nothing positive to offer

Crimson Dynamo 14-11-2019 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10711697)
Was it intended as a compliment?

It's the same cancer, pure hate from people who have nothing positive to offer

no it is not it is different and has nothing to do with this thread

Shaun 14-11-2019 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711691)
Its not about bigotry its about racism as seen today but at the time not intended as such

It was literally intended at the time as a crude stereotype which is a form of racism, lol.

That said, it's important these things aren't edited out of the originals because it provides a context into just how prevalent these stereotypes and offensive caricatures were up until extremely recent times.

Edit: look at Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's. Extremely offensive, and yet it hasn't done any damage to the film's reputation by being kept in. It's just a small window into a society that used to be far more racist in the 50s than it is now.

Crimson Dynamo 14-11-2019 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 10711702)
It was literally intended at the time as a crude stereotype which is a form of racism, lol.

That said, it's important these things aren't edited out of the originals because it provides a context into just how prevalent these stereotypes and offensive caricatures were up until extremely recent times.

Edit: look at Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's. Extremely offensive, and yet it hasn't done any damage to the film's reputation by being kept in. It's just a small window into a society that used to be far more racist in the 50s than it is now.

quite but is important for the young people to realise that back then is not the same as now - ie these movies were not made in a society that reflects 2019 and that had they been born back there they would not have noticed, if that makes sense

hopefully that is what parents are for

Twosugars 14-11-2019 05:51 PM

Disney a gay friendly, anti racism company. Great example for kids :clap1:
Daily Heil and alt right will be fuming :D

Shaun 14-11-2019 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711707)
quite but is important for the young people to realise that back then is not the same as now - ie these movies were not made in a society that reflects 2019 and that had they been born back there they would not have noticed, if that makes sense

hopefully that is what parents are for

True, but isn't that basically what this warning does? Differentiate between then and now?


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