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UserSince2005 13-12-2019 05:20 PM

Mentality of Labour Voters vs Tory Voters
 
Just watching the news over the past weeks and I hear so many opinions of people from both sides

Labour voters are always so negative about their sorry financial state, their bad health, the services in their town not having enough money spent on it, how they need more support and just generally how hard their lives are.

Tory voters talk about the future and the hopes for the success of the country.

Why is this?

The Slim Reaper 13-12-2019 05:22 PM

One side is trying to tell you what problems exist, the other side doesn't want you to notice what they've done for the last 10 years.

UserSince2005 13-12-2019 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10733844)
One side is trying to tell you what problems exist, the other side doesn't want you to notice what they've done for the last 10 years.

Maybe thats it. to be fair. I just think if Labour had been more positives and not harp on about all the negatives of life then they might have done better.

There was no clear future plan with labours campaign

The Slim Reaper 13-12-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10733850)
Maybe thats it. to be fair. I just think if Labour had been more positives and not harp on about all the negatives of life then they might have done better.

There was no clear future plan with labours campaign

I think labour ran a pretty positive campaign on the things they wanted to implement, you don't set yourself apart from your opponents without pointing out what they've destroyed in a decade.

Corbyn - "I want to thank the amazing tory government for all the new food banks we have now"

Better?

Crimson Dynamo 13-12-2019 05:34 PM

labour ran such a bad campaign that a lot of their voters voted conservative

now if that isnt damning enough, well it is

:skull:

GoldHeart 13-12-2019 05:41 PM

Jeremy Corbyn tried his best , he had the worst hate campaign against him and he still tried to stay positive.

The strong labour policies were there , but Brexit crap dominated things.

On the news people sound MAD confused ,they're moaning about things being privatised and working class communities not being helped yet they still VOTED for Johnson:crazy::umm2: .

This is like twilight zone!

Marsh. 13-12-2019 08:29 PM

Are you basically asking why people who are being sh*t on left right and centre WHY they're being negative about it?

Good grief.

Marsh. 13-12-2019 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10733850)
Maybe thats it. to be fair. I just think if Labour had been more positives and not harp on about all the negatives of life then they might have done better.

There was no clear future plan with labours campaign

So you prefer fairytales to reality.

Ignorance is bliss.

Oliver_W 13-12-2019 09:30 PM

This year's election was similar to the Trump v Hillary, in that someone who would normally be laughed off stage looked credible thanks to their awful opponents.

Marsh. 13-12-2019 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10734048)
This year's election was similar to the Trump v Hillary, in that someone who would normally be laughed off stage looked credible thanks to their awful opponents.

Nothing makes Boris appear credible.

bots 13-12-2019 09:38 PM

i think people are entitled to be annoyed when their political beliefs are not being implemented. If people think it's bad now, they should have been there when Maggie was re-elected. Passions ran very high

However, a week or 2 after the election, it's best to accept the realities of democracy and manage the best you can. Nothing lasts forever.

arista 13-12-2019 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10733882)
Jeremy Corbyn tried his best , he had the worst hate campaign against him and he still tried to stay positive.

The strong labour policies were there , but Brexit crap dominated things.

On the news people sound MAD confused ,they're moaning about things being privatised and working class communities not being helped yet they still VOTED for Johnson:crazy::umm2: .

This is like twilight zone!



He went too Hard at it.
Avoiding the real public
only selecting Labour Voters.
Pathetic

Mystic Mock 13-12-2019 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10733840)
Just watching the news over the past weeks and I hear so many opinions of people from both sides

Labour voters are always so negative about their sorry financial state, their bad health, the services in their town not having enough money spent on it, how they need more support and just generally how hard their lives are.

Tory voters talk about the future and the hopes for the success of the country.

Why is this?

Because tbf those complaints are genuine problems in the country.

Thousands of Tories and Labour voters (and countless of other parties supporters) have been living it rough over the past 4 or 5 years in particular, it imo is not a Labour issue but instead is a countrywide issue that Boris and his administration are gonna have to try and sort out, and that's not by Austerity but by investing.

The future of the UK is in trouble if the Tories don't learn from their mistakes, they've got at least another 5 years to finally get this right. And hopefully they will.

Kazanne 14-12-2019 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10733844)
One side is trying to tell you what problems exist, the other side doesn't want you to notice what they've done for the last 10 years.

No Slim , one side wants something for nothing all the time and the other side are happy to work for what they want.:wavey:

GoldHeart 14-12-2019 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10734088)
He went too Hard at it.
Avoiding the real public
only selecting Labour Voters.
Pathetic

That's not true

Liam- 14-12-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10734187)
No Slim , one side wants something for nothing all the time and the other side are happy to work for what they want.:wavey:

Ah, the good old ‘labour voters are scroungers’ rehtoric, horrific

Ammi 14-12-2019 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10734187)
No Slim , one side wants something for nothing all the time and the other side are happy to work for what they want.:wavey:

...many, many people work extremely hard for their whole life, Kaz...and still don’t earn enough on their salaries to be able to have ‘what they want’....

Liam- 14-12-2019 09:23 AM

It baffles my head that people begrudge kids in poverty being given a helping hand, disadvantaged families being given help to feed themselves, homeless people being helped off the street, families being given an opportunity to go out and earn for their families with free childcare, something they might not be able to do otherwise, nobody wants something for nothing, people want people to not have to suffer in the the 5th richest country in the world, in the 21st century, some people have to work multiple jobs to just scrape over the poverty line, Joe is that okay? where has our compassion as a country gone? There used to be a time where the British stuck together, now it’s a big old two fingers to anyone that isn’t deemed good enough, it’s shameful.

Crimson Dynamo 14-12-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10734197)
It baffles my head that people begrudge kids in poverty being given a helping hand, disadvantaged families being given help to feed themselves, homeless people being helped off the street, families being given an opportunity to go out and earn for their families with free childcare, something they might not be able to do otherwise, nobody wants something for nothing, people want people to not have to suffer in the the 5th richest country in the world, in the 21st century, some people have to work multiple jobs to just scrape over the poverty line, Joe is that okay? where has our compassion as a country gone? There used to be a time where the British stuck together, now it’s a big old two fingers to anyone that isn’t deemed good enough, it’s shameful.

its like charity organisations dont exist for you:shrug:

Ammi 14-12-2019 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10734197)
It baffles my head that people begrudge kids in poverty being given a helping hand, disadvantaged families being given help to feed themselves, homeless people being helped off the street, families being given an opportunity to go out and earn for their families with free childcare, something they might not be able to do otherwise, nobody wants something for nothing, people want people to not have to suffer in the the 5th richest country in the world, in the 21st century, some people have to work multiple jobs to just scrape over the poverty line, Joe is that okay? where has our compassion as a country gone? There used to be a time where the British stuck together, now it’s a big old two fingers to anyone that isn’t deemed good enough, it’s shameful.

...and at the time of year that we’re celebrating Christianity because we are a country of Christian values...of the innkeeper saying...yes, there is always room and there is always welcome...

bots 14-12-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10734187)
No Slim , one side wants something for nothing all the time and the other side are happy to work for what they want.:wavey:

are you referring to the rich who manipulate markets to earn money for nothing and the hard working people who collect their pay checks every week? :laugh:


There was nothing inherently wrong with things that labour were proposing. However it didn't come over as credible for so many reasons. It was a mess of giveaways with no strategic plan behind it other than things being for the many not the few which is such a disingenuous, meaningless phrase.

Look at the soviet union, things were for the many, not the few there, but always, always, always that's not how it ends up. There are always elites, it's human nature. Government is elites, so as soon as Corbyn became PM, he would have been an elite and leader of the few

Crimson Dynamo 14-12-2019 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10734201)
...and at the time of year that we’re celebrating Christianity because we are a country of Christian values...of the innkeeper saying...yes, there is always room and there is always welcome...

so you will be housing a few homeless this Christmas in you own house?

im pretty sure not one tibb member would even consider it for a nano second

Liam- 14-12-2019 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10734200)
its like charity organisations dont exist for you:shrug:

Oh that’s alright then, government doesn’t have to do it’s job and look after everyone in their country cause there are charities out there that do it for them, drivel, utter drivel, charities are there to help people that need it yes, they’re not there to subsidise the responsibilities of the government.

GoldHeart 14-12-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10734207)
Oh that’s alright then, government doesn’t have to do it’s job and look after everyone in their country cause there are charities out there that do it for them, drivel, utter drivel, charities are there to help people that need it yes, they’re not there to subsidise the responsibilities of the government.

Exactly

Crimson Dynamo 14-12-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10734207)
Oh that’s alright then, government doesn’t have to do it’s job and look after everyone in their country cause there are charities out there that do it for them, drivel, utter drivel, charities are there to help people that need it yes, they’re not there to subsidise the responsibilities of the government.

and all governments provide money to local authorities to deal with things like this, talk to your local councillor and volunteer to help?


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