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Withano 12-04-2020 09:02 AM

Has the UK Government done a good job in protecting citizens from Covid19?
 
In your opinion?

Denver 12-04-2020 09:04 AM

They done as good as they could with resources I think.

We dont have the labs Korea have or the higher number of ICU other countries had and it's hard to base a decision on what other countries are doing

arista 12-04-2020 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10821713)
They done as good as they could with resources I think.

We dont have the labs Korea have or the higher number of ICU other countries had and it's hard to base a decision on what other countries are doing


But The Pathetic Government
has the power to fast build big labs
this week.

Even Germany Roche would advise them.

Liam- 12-04-2020 09:17 AM

Considering they knowingly let it run through people for a good week, before deciding to do anything at all, I’d say not

Kazanne 12-04-2020 09:55 AM

I guess it depends on your political leaning as to whether they have done a good job, it wasn't perfect but as good as it could be given that this was an unknown virus and they took advice from WHO and would be damned if they did and damned if they didn't, so all in all imo they have done the best they could do given what was thrown at them.

Withano 12-04-2020 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10821733)
I guess it depends on your political leaning as to whether they have done a good job.

Why would you let your political leaning affect your honest thoughts on their job?

arista 12-04-2020 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10821733)
I guess it depends on your political leaning as to whether they have done a good job, it wasn't perfect but as good as it could be given that this was an unknown virus and they took advice from WHO and would be damned if they did and damned if they didn't, so all in all imo they have done the best they could do given what was thrown at them.


Kaz this Government
set up Temp Hospitals
but did not Build Big New Labs
to do faster testings.


Many posted to Roche Testing in Bloody Germany.


That Stinks

Smithy 12-04-2020 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10821733)
I guess it depends on your political leaning as to whether they have done a good job, it wasn't perfect but as good as it could be given that this was an unknown virus and they took advice from WHO and would be damned if they did and damned if they didn't, so all in all imo they have done the best they could do given what was thrown at them.

What a load of tripe

They had weeks to prepare and take precautionary measures, they didn’t, their initial plan was heard immunity, they were willing to sacrifice thousands of lives to save the economy.

It’s only after the damage was done that they’ve rapidly changed strategy. They haven’t done a “terrible job” yet, I suppose the final death toll will be what decides that, but lives have been lost unnecessarily because of their poor planning.

hijaxers 12-04-2020 10:56 AM

I have to say a bad job ~ we should have locked down properly sooner.

user104658 12-04-2020 11:02 AM

I think my opinion on this is two-fold. They're muddling along as best they can right now - all governments are. No one knew what to do. We have the benefit of HINDSIGHT in sayi g that SK got it right but in truth, #1 we don't actually know for certain why the situation in SK has been better, it's just best-guess and #2 we only know that something they did worked by looking back on the data we have now, not much was known at the time, and there was conflicting scientific advice. The government actually changed path RELATIVELY quickly when presented with more evidence.


Zooming out a bit and looking at the bigger picture though; governments (not just ours) have had warnings going back YEARS to start preparing for a global pandemic. And not just any pandemic, they even knew it was likely to be a respiratory SARS-like virus. They have had over a decade to fill warehouses with PPE and other medical equipment, have contingency plans in place both practical and financial, to have extra ICU space sitting "on standby" permanently and to ensure that the health service is robust and properly staffed.

They chose to not only ignore the warnings and to fail to prepare any of those specific measures, but also deliberately undermined and underfunded the health service, mostly for personal for financial gain... And deported/forced out half of the workforce... Leaving the NHS in the weakest and most precarious position it's ever been and headed into a pandemic.

So short term, it's been a confusing mess and expecting that any government could have got it 100% right is a bit unrealistic. But over the longer term, they've made a series of monumental **** ups that could and should have been avoided. We should have been ready. The science was there the warnings had been given - several years ago. They were ignored.

Nicky91 12-04-2020 11:05 AM

government idk


but if we're talking about mayors in britain yes especially in london sadiq khan, and when you'd want him to address his city, he doesn't show up :umm2:

Smithy 12-04-2020 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10821762)
government idk


but if we're talking mayors in britain yes too lacklustre especially in london sadiq khan, and when you'd want him to address his city, he doesn't show up :umm2:

Can you name any other Mayor in Britain Nicky?

arista 12-04-2020 11:14 AM

"The science was there the warnings had
been given - several years ago. They were ignored. "


Of course TS
But now Science leaders have Control.

user104658 12-04-2020 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10821764)


Of course TS
But now Science leaders have Control.

"Closing the stable door after the horse has bolted" is the phrase that springs to mind.

michael21 12-04-2020 11:54 AM

No there could see what was happen in other country's but they waited for poplpe to die before acting

GoldHeart 12-04-2020 12:03 PM

I put bad job , because they acted late .

Mitchell 12-04-2020 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10821722)
Considering they knowingly let it run through people for a good week, before deciding to do anything at all, I’d say not

This, could’ve done worse, but done pretty shoddily given we knew the threat in January.

smudgie 12-04-2020 02:01 PM

They could hardly just shut up shop overnight to be fair.
Mistakes have, and will no doubt continue to be made, not just here.

Samm 12-04-2020 02:03 PM

Considering we are one of the richest countries in the world, no

Crimson Dynamo 12-04-2020 02:14 PM

to be honest none of you or I are in any position to say so its just "i dont like the tories" again

hijaxers 12-04-2020 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10821921)
to be honest none of you or I are in any position to say so its just "i dont like the tories" again

No its not I wouldn't care who was in charge this virus should not be political, i would have said same if Labour had been ruling over this cock up !

Kizzy 12-04-2020 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10821733)
I guess it depends on your political leaning as to whether they have done a good job, it wasn't perfect but as good as it could be given that this was an unknown virus and they took advice from WHO and would be damned if they did and damned if they didn't, so all in all imo they have done the best they could do given what was thrown at them.

It has nothing to do with political leaning. You have to look at this objectively and consider the information and the contingency plans they had. They ignored the findings of excersise Cygnus, the WHO, and how the virus was progressing in other European cities.

Boris even ignored his own advice, and toyed with the disastrous idea of herd immunity. Invented figures for testing targets then failed to reach them, as well as under resourced frontline workers so woefully they wear bin liners! so no it's not political it's based on decisions that have impacted on this country negatively, worse than that its killed thousands.

user104658 12-04-2020 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10821921)
to be honest none of you or I are in any position to say so its just "i dont like the tories" again

I don't like the Tories :suspect:. But I don't think a Labour government that came into power at the end of 2019 would be doing any better, the mistakes are historic not current, the Tories have plenty to answer for in terms of the state of the health service but the warnings were there years before the CamClegg coalition... Labour ignored them too.

Crimson Dynamo 12-04-2020 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10821925)
I don't like the Tories :suspect:. But I don't think a Labour government that came into power at the end of 2019 would be doing any better, the mistakes are historic not current, the Tories have plenty to answer for in terms of the state of the health service but the warnings were there years before the CamClegg coalition... Labour ignored them too.

Bill Gates was banging on about this years ago

Crimson Dynamo 12-04-2020 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10821923)
No its not I wouldn't care who was in charge this virus should not be political, i would have said same if Labour had been ruling over this cock up !

your basis for judging it a cock up is flawed you dont have any basis to judge it.

lets see your credentials in virology, epidemiology, managing millions, governmental policy?

you dont have any and i expect your "data" comes from papers, facebook and twitter


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