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Cherie 02-05-2020 08:03 AM

Two-metre rule being reviewed amid hope relaxed restrictions could allow schools open
 
The two-metre social distancing rule is being reviewed by the Government in the hope that relaxing the restriction could allow more businesses and schools to reopen, The Daily Telegraph understands.
Ministers have asked the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) to look again at whether people need to stay so far apart, amid growing evidence that coronavirus does not transmit well in the air.

It is believed that the Government is considering reopening schools before the summer holidays – probably in June – so that there will be a natural point when they could be closed again if infections start to rise, without disrupting parents for a second time.
Unions met ministers on Friday and discussed plans for schools to be given three weeks’ notice to reopen, adding to speculation that pupils may start to return after the May half-term holiday.
It is also expected that schools will be opened in phases, such as primaries first and then secondaries, to monitor how the different age groups are affecting the R-rate, and scrapping the two-metre rule would make classes easier to manage

The World Health Organisation only recommends staying one metre apart, and following the less rigid approach would allow Britons to travel and work more freely when restrictions are eventually lifted.


There is also unhappiness that Britain’s social distancing rules are more stringent than countries such as France, Italy and Sweden.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...cid=spartanntp

user104658 02-05-2020 08:24 AM

Primary schools are a complicated one anyway. Younger children are less at risk if they get Covid, but up until really the exact same age range (about 9) trying to get them to social distance would be like herding cats. Older primary school kids (10 - 12 year olds) will be easier to get to stick to distancing rules, but are otherwise (slightly) more likely to get ill if they do come into contact with someone who has it.

But yeah, the idea of primary school teachers trying to get 5 and 6 year olds to stay ANY distance apart in somewhat hilarious. Cue Benny Hill soundtrack, etc.

Nicky91 02-05-2020 08:38 AM

idk, but if i were a parent i would think about sending children to schools, there is some other mystery child illness (that maybe linked to covid-19)

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...to-coronavirus

https://nltimes.nl/2020/05/01/myster...so-netherlands

read into this

bots 02-05-2020 08:46 AM

this sounds like complete rubbish. If the virus doesn't transmit well through the air, how are so many becoming infected, why did we go in to lock down across the world, and why did the numbers infected reduce on lock down. Honestly, it's complete bollocks

Nicky91 02-05-2020 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10834796)
this sounds like complete rubbish. If the virus doesn't transmit well through the air, how are so many becoming infected, why did we go in to lock down across the world, and why did the numbers infected reduce on lock down. Honestly, it's complete bollocks

socialising in masses :shrug:

it basically transmits from either mouth or nose so with coughing/talking/sneezing

so face masks should more be worn by those who can transmit the virus, if you can stop transmission you can stop the spread


some here in Netherlands are making their own masks out of old T-shirts, cloths

Cherie 02-05-2020 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10834796)
this sounds like complete rubbish. If the virus doesn't transmit well through the air, how are so many becoming infected, why did we go in to lock down across the world, and why did the numbers infected reduce on lock down. Honestly, it's complete bollocks

Yep I didnt get that either... :shrug:

Zizu 02-05-2020 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10834787)
The two-metre social distancing rule is being reviewed by the Government in the hope that relaxing the restriction could allow more businesses and schools to reopen, The Daily Telegraph understands.

Ministers have asked the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) to look again at whether people need to stay so far apart, amid growing evidence that coronavirus does not transmit well in the air.



It is believed that the Government is considering reopening schools before the summer holidays – probably in June – so that there will be a natural point when they could be closed again if infections start to rise, without disrupting parents for a second time.

Unions met ministers on Friday and discussed plans for schools to be given three weeks’ notice to reopen, adding to speculation that pupils may start to return after the May half-term holiday.

It is also expected that schools will be opened in phases, such as primaries first and then secondaries, to monitor how the different age groups are affecting the R-rate, and scrapping the two-metre rule would make classes easier to manage



The World Health Organisation only recommends staying one metre apart, and following the less rigid approach would allow Britons to travel and work more freely when restrictions are eventually lifted.





There is also unhappiness that Britain’s social distancing rules are more stringent than countries such as France, Italy and Sweden.



https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...cid=spartanntp



I saw that story / suggestion of relaxing the two metre rule in the Telegraph yesterday ..

I think it’s total BOLLOX .. they’re just desperate for headlines nowadays..

Apart from anything else .. It’s only last week researchers showed the virus airborne particles actually can travel up to 13 feet !!! ( 4 metres )


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Oliver_W 02-05-2020 05:48 PM

How about no?

I invite anyone who thinks it's a good idea to actually try implementing themselves in person ... especially in a behaviour school!

Kizzy 02-05-2020 05:50 PM

Is this for Tim Martins benefit so he can open his godawful pubs!?

MTVN 02-05-2020 05:51 PM

Most European countries do 1.5m distancing instead of 2m so that could be what they move to

Denver 02-05-2020 05:53 PM

So some parents are refusing to send kids back without a vaccine, their was one on my local news who was furloughed so if she refuses to send her kids to school she wont have a job and if she dont have a job she wont be entitled to benefits because she effectively quit her job

Oliver_W 02-05-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10835020)
So some parents are refusing to send kids back without a vaccine, their was one on my local news who was furloughed so if she refuses to send her kids to school she wont have a job and if she dont have a job she wont be entitled to benefits because she effectively quit her job

That rule is so stupid, even at the best of times. Crappy employers can make working conditions unpalatable, carry out constructive dismissal.

Denver 02-05-2020 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10835023)
That rule is so stupid, even at the best of times. Crappy employers can make working conditions unpalatable, carry out constructive dismissal.

Wasnt it brought in because alot of people would quit the job straight away to stay on benefits

Oliver_W 02-05-2020 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10835024)
Wasnt it brought in because alot of people would quit the job straight away to stay on benefits

Frankly I think even that should be okay :shrug: someone who wants to live the NEET lifestyle isn't going to be the hardest worker,and it's not like JSA pays a King's Ransom so leave 'em to it if that's the life they want.

Cherie 02-05-2020 06:08 PM

I mean when they say schools will open it wont be full on, it will be phased, part time, shorter days, partial class size

Surprised your school is shut Oliver, I guess they don't have any parents who are key workers, the special needs school in my area is open with staff going in on a rota basis, they only have 4 kids and they are different class rooms

Oliver_W 02-05-2020 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10835031)
I mean when they say schools will open it wont be full on, it will be phased, part time, shorter days, partial class size

Surprised your school is shut Oliver, I guess they don't have any parents who are key workers, the special needs school in my area is open with staff going in on a rota basis, they only have 4 kids and they are different class rooms

As far as I know there aren't any key worker parents, not in any of "my" three classes anyway. Plus as it's one of like two behaviour schools anywhere near here, they're taxi'd in from all over the place including some from outside the county...

Tom4784 02-05-2020 07:38 PM

Honestly, until the stats begin to change, the current situation should remain in place, it'll only cause another peak and another lockdown if we rush out of this one too quickly.

Beso 02-05-2020 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10835085)
Honestly, until the stats begin to change, the current situation should remain in place, it'll only cause another peak and another lockdown if we rush out of this one too quickly.

That's what all the knee quakers think, look at London statistics from beginning to end and top to bottom...herd immunity was infact the way to go if you look at it from those statistics.

Zizu 02-05-2020 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10835020)
So some parents are refusing to send kids back without a vaccine, their was one on my local news who was furloughed so if she refuses to send her kids to school she wont have a job and if she dont have a job she wont be entitled to benefits because she effectively quit her job



Sadly most people can’t even tell the difference..


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Zizu 02-05-2020 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10835085)
Honestly, until the stats begin to change, the current situation should remain in place, it'll only cause another peak and another lockdown if we rush out of this one too quickly.



It’s big businesses and Tory donors who are pressuring the government into kick starting the economy..the money men don’t care about the people’s health or safety


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Scarlett. 02-05-2020 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10835087)
That's what all the knee quakers think, look at London statistics from beginning to end and top to bottom...herd immunity was infact the way to go if you look at it from those statistics.

The original herd immunity plan would have killed hundreds of thousands

Withano 03-05-2020 09:31 AM

Stupid idea. Primary schools should be amongst the last things to open.

The kids barely get the symptoms, and will all go back to their 200 different families each day.

Denver 03-05-2020 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 10835240)
Stupid idea. Primary schools should be amongst the last things to open.

The kids barely get the symptoms, and will all go back to their 200 different families each day.

Who are gonna pay the wages of the parents needing yo work

Nicky91 03-05-2020 10:55 AM

yes here in Netherlands it is 1.5 metres distance rule

same in Germany

michael21 03-05-2020 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10834787)
The two-metre social distancing rule is being reviewed by the Government in the hope that relaxing the restriction could allow more businesses and schools to reopen, The Daily Telegraph understands.
Ministers have asked the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) to look again at whether people need to stay so far apart, amid growing evidence that coronavirus does not transmit well in the air.

It is believed that the Government is considering reopening schools before the summer holidays – probably in June – so that there will be a natural point when they could be closed again if infections start to rise, without disrupting parents for a second time.
Unions met ministers on Friday and discussed plans for schools to be given three weeks’ notice to reopen, adding to speculation that pupils may start to return after the May half-term holiday.
It is also expected that schools will be opened in phases, such as primaries first and then secondaries, to monitor how the different age groups are affecting the R-rate, and scrapping the two-metre rule would make classes easier to manage

The World Health Organisation only recommends staying one metre apart, and following the less rigid approach would allow Britons to travel and work more freely when restrictions are eventually lifted.


There is also unhappiness that Britain’s social distancing rules are more stringent than countries such as France, Italy and Sweden.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...cid=spartanntp


That newspaper also said there be big snow stomes there were none :fist:


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