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Jodie. 17-05-2020 02:00 AM

Capitalism/Communism/Socialism
 
Which one are YOU and WHY xx

MB. 17-05-2020 02:06 AM

Socialist in the streets, communist in the sheets

Greg! 17-05-2020 02:17 AM

Social democrat luv

Oliver_W 17-05-2020 09:07 AM

None, really.

Like, my mind changes all the time.

My only strong conviction is that the environment and green spaces should be protected. For that reason I think the amount of people coming into the country should be limited so more and more houses and infrastructure aren't needed.

But otherwise, my "soul" doesn't really care what politicians do, even if I sometimes argue a point at the time.

Beso 17-05-2020 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10842866)
None, really.

Like, my mind changes all the time.

My only strong conviction is that the environment and green spaces should be protected. For that reason I think the amount of people coming into the country should be limited so more and more houses and infrastructure aren't needed.

But otherwise, my "soul" doesn't really care what politicians do, even if I sometimes argue a point at the time.

How strong is that conviction?

Like do you protest etc

Oliver_W 17-05-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10842876)
How strong is that conviction?

Like do you protest etc

I'm part of basically every local environment protection initiative, and we recently saved a small woodland from being turned into flats :)

Like there's only so much I can do because I work termtime when I'm not furloughed lol

Jigs 17-05-2020 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 10842828)
Socialist in the streets, communist in the sheets

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user104658 17-05-2020 02:41 PM

This is far too overly-simplistic.

I believe that the only currently viable system is managed capitalism (not rampant free-market) backed up by relatively generous socialist policies where appropriate. For example, I believe that Universal Income (a heavily socialist policy) makes far more sense, and would work far better, than the current "topped up wage credit" structure... but part of that is a belief that it would actually be very GOOD for markets and the capitalist economy whilst also providing a permanent safety net that would ensure a decent level of worker's rights.

Essentially I feel that abandonning capitalism (in the world as it stands) is a race to the bottom, and who really wants equality if that essentially means being "equally miserable". However I am a socialist in the sense that I believe that we should be redistributing wealth on a massive scale and work undertaken in a developed economy should be out of desire rather than necessity. I think the fear is that no one would bother working in menial jobs, but I personally think the desire for extra income would provide a more-than-adequate pool of labour, and it would be both a more enthusiastic (and thus effective) workforce AND ensure that employers are motivated to keep working conditions attractive.

Oliver_W 17-05-2020 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10842964)
For example, I believe that Universal Income (a heavily socialist policy) makes far more sense, and would work far better, than the current "topped up wage credit" structure... but part of that is a belief that it would actually be very GOOD for markets and the capitalist economy whilst also providing a permanent safety net that would ensure a decent level of worker's rights.

I heard somewhere that giving every working age person the equivalent of working full time on minimum wage would be cheaper for the tax payer than running the "welfare state" as it is i.e. a certain amount for job seekers, disabled, topping up wages, and whatever else along with paying DWP staff.


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