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Smithy 25-06-2020 02:20 PM

Conservatives vote AGAINST testing NHS workers weekly for CoronaVirus
 


Yikes

Ramsay 25-06-2020 02:23 PM

But...why?

The Slim Reaper 25-06-2020 02:27 PM

Can't be criticised for failing to protect NHS workers if we don't bother to find out whether they're ill.

Oliver_W 25-06-2020 02:37 PM

I think it's ridiculous they're not being tested regularly anyway.

Swan 25-06-2020 02:42 PM

Yeah ridiculous decision.

Beso 25-06-2020 03:11 PM

Perhaps they want daily checks?

Jigs 25-06-2020 03:29 PM

Highly unsurprising considering the Conservatives' tendency to only care about themselves

MB. 25-06-2020 03:31 PM

More proof that the weekly round of applause was never really about thanking NHS workers

Liam- 25-06-2020 03:51 PM

Of course they did, because why would they start caring about the nhs and it’s staff after 10 years of decimating it?

joeysteele 25-06-2020 03:54 PM

It speaks volumes.
Shows their real side.

Nicky91 25-06-2020 03:54 PM

tories only thinking about themselves *pretendstobeshocked*

Cherie 25-06-2020 04:02 PM

For context


In response, the minister for care, Helen Whately, said that NHS staff with symptoms would continue to be prioritised for testing and that there would be extra testing for staff without symptoms where there was an incident or outbreak, or high prevalence, as well as regular surveillance testing of staff. She said, “On the advice of our chief medical officer, this will be fortnightly or more frequently depending on local or national epidemiology.”

Liam- 25-06-2020 04:04 PM

Helen Whately doesn’t know her arse from her elbow

Cherie 25-06-2020 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10869685)
Helen Whately doesn’t know her arse from her elbow

it's the advice from the CMO, we follow the science or no?

I don't get the issue, anyone can ask for a test at any time, and if they are routinely being tested fortnightly or more frequently if there is a a flare up it seems reasonable? no?

Anyone visiting a hospital and all staff have to wear masks and those in high risk areas will have PPE

By all accounts it is not the most pleasant of tests so it seems a bit of disingenous motion that was brought to generate the headline TORYs vote against the NHS, that is the way I see it at any rate :D:

joeysteele 25-06-2020 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10869685)
Helen Whately doesn’t know her arse from her elbow

She's a walking disaster.
How she's survived as a Minister is beyond belief, or should be.

joeysteele 25-06-2020 04:37 PM

The bill was to introduce weekly testing for NHS and Care staff.
I think that is wise.
Especially now as more is being opened up again.

The science has been selectively followed by this Government when it suited it to.
The science has not always been right.
As has been stated by even those advising the government, stating had the lockdown been even a week earlier, thousands of lives may have been saved.

331 Conservatives voted against this bill.
That speaks volumes in any context.

Liam- 25-06-2020 04:51 PM

If they were following the science Boris wouldn’t be opening England up to the extent that he is, they pick and choose when they follow the science, either they are or they’re not

hijaxers 25-06-2020 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigs (Post 10869663)
Highly unsurprising considering the Conservatives' tendency to only care about themselves

Well i think the GBP is getting very peed off with this government, everyone i'm speaking to is ! and with very good reason.

hijaxers 25-06-2020 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10869696)
She's a walking disaster.
How she's survived as a Minister is beyond belief, or should be.

Yeah she's on the list of crap ministers , which is growing by the minute it seems.

Ammi 25-06-2020 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10869701)
If they were following the science Boris wouldn’t be opening England up to the extent that he is, they pick and choose when they follow the science, either they are or they’re not

...for me, it’s not just the picking and choosing../...how selective they are..?...it’s how dishonest and disingenuous as well...

joeysteele 25-06-2020 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10869726)
...for me, it’s not just the picking and choosing../...how selective they are..?...it’s how dishonest and disingenuous as well...

Ooh, wish I'd thought of that.

Absolutely right is that too.

Tom4784 25-06-2020 07:02 PM

The Tories screwing over the NHS? Business as usual.

Not that Tory voters will care though, Boris will do something Boris-y, his voters will cheer and guffaw and everything will be right as rain with them as Boris continues to dismantle the NHS.

After all, voters did their part, they stood on their step and clapped, they can't be expected to do more than that...

user104658 25-06-2020 07:07 PM

To be frrrr, most trusts have tests available on request for NHS staff members. I'm not sure how I feel about MANDATORY weekly testing. It is after all a medical procedure and an absolute cornerstone of a good healthcare system - one that we really don't want to touch, in my opinion - is that any medical procedure should only ever be carried out with informed consent.

Kizzy 25-06-2020 07:10 PM

Isn't it an obvious solution though?
With this track and trace thing aren't you suposed to be tested if you've come into contact with those with the virus?

That would be huge swathes of the NHS on the daily then?

bots 26-06-2020 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10869809)
To be frrrr, most trusts have tests available on request for NHS staff members. I'm not sure how I feel about MANDATORY weekly testing. It is after all a medical procedure and an absolute cornerstone of a good healthcare system - one that we really don't want to touch, in my opinion - is that any medical procedure should only ever be carried out with informed consent.

Correct, it is an invasion of peoples liberty to make testing mandatory as a matter of routine. It's fine if there has been an incident or someone is feeling unwell, but that is very different circumstances. Also, the priority for NHS staff was when testing was very limited, that is no longer the case, anyone who wants a test can get one. How would people feel about having mandatory std tests after every sexual episode, there would be outrage ....

Just another attempt to smear the government without justification. There are many things that they can legitimately be called out on without resorting to complete rubbish


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