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AnnieK 26-06-2020 01:59 PM

Intu, owners of Trafford Centre and Lakeside go into administration
 
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...owner-18494516

Centres staying open for now. Will be a massive blow for employment if they do close though

arista 26-06-2020 02:00 PM

Yes they are trying to get funding
Massive Debts

https://news.sky.com/story/shopping-...ators-12015080

Livia 26-06-2020 02:11 PM

Feel sorry for all those people who'll lose their job.

Cherie 26-06-2020 02:12 PM

Two huge shopping malls, hope they can be saved

AnnieK 26-06-2020 02:19 PM

They own a lot more too up and down the UK, including the Manchester Arndale.....so many job losses if they are forced to shut :sad:

arista 26-06-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10870322)
Feel sorry for all those people who'll lose their job.


The Shops inside them are still trading
nothing to do with the Mall owners debts


The Council could take over control.

Ammi 26-06-2020 02:23 PM

...I think they own Chapelfield in Norwich and Eldon Square in Newcastle as well....very sad news...:sad:..

smudgie 26-06-2020 02:26 PM

Metro centre as well as Eldon Square.

Tom4784 26-06-2020 03:44 PM

Merry Hill too, I imagine it'll be fine though, it's changed hands a few times before Intu came into the picture.

Aaliyah 26-06-2020 06:50 PM

Too many jobs to be lost and too many people to sign on benefits and stuff, the Government/local council will surely step in if it comes to closure.

parmnion 26-06-2020 08:14 PM

Wha!!!

Omg, the a13..

The last 20 mins home sweating to avoid the xmas rush and another hour onto that 20 mins...


WHAT A BLOODY SHAME.

Kizzy 27-06-2020 12:04 AM

There could be a takeover for the prime locations? I really hope there are no closures :/

Toy Soldier 27-06-2020 12:21 AM

Vast majority if not all would be bought if it came down to it, probably on the cheap if the company busts.

Glenn. 27-06-2020 02:14 AM

Nawt Lakeside

bitontheslide 27-06-2020 05:16 AM

The corporate structure that Intu is a part of makes the whole thing quite complicated. Apparently this wont really affect the shopping centres as the ownership falls to the banks etc that had already invested in them, so there *shouldn't* be that much knock on effect. What it affects is the ability of Intu to build new centres

Ammi 27-06-2020 07:26 AM

...Intu or whoever would own them, must be reliant on individual shop rents being paid as well...(...I’m not up on how these things work..)...but the individual retailers will be struggling as well to pay their rents with the close down of business they’ve had and Intu would have been relying on that...that must also be a knock on effect..?...

Toy Soldier 27-06-2020 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10870685)
The corporate structure that Intu is a part of makes the whole thing quite complicated. Apparently this wont really affect the shopping centres as the ownership falls to the banks etc that had already invested in them, so there *shouldn't* be that much knock on effect. What it affects is the ability of Intu to build new centres

Yep if the company is dismantled the physical centres will fall into the ownerships of the banks they're indebted to, who will most likely sell them on to someone else at a rock-bottom price. Prepare for "Amazon Supercentres!!" or something :joker:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10870693)
...Intu or whoever would own them, must be reliant on individual shop rents being paid as well...(...I’m not up on how these things work..)...but the individual retailers will be struggling as well to pay their rents with the close down of business they’ve had and Intu would have been relying on that...that must also be a knock on effect..?...

That's true and during lockdown, landlords have a bit of a tough call to make with retailers who can't pay rent. They obviously have the right to kick them out... but chances are they wouldn't be able to fill those units for months (sometimes years) so the only really sensible choice is to suck up the loss and let the store resume rent payments post-lockdown.

Ammi 27-06-2020 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10870700)
Yep if the company is dismantled the physical centres will fall into the ownerships of the banks they're indebted to, who will most likely sell them on to someone else at a rock-bottom price. Prepare for "Amazon Supercentres!!" or something :joker:




That's true and during lockdown, landlords have a bit of a tough call to make with retailers who can't pay rent. They obviously have the right to kick them out... but chances are they wouldn't be able to fill those units for months (sometimes years) so the only really sensible choice is to suck up the loss and let the store resume rent payments post-lockdown.


...it’s whether they will be able to or want to resume the rent payments as well, there is so much still to be determined...whether this has shocked a new face to online buying, which previously would have been more gradual..?..we already were seeing the gradual rise of empty/vacated shop premises and actual retail outlets diminishing...but this forced online way, even for those who have been experiencing it for the first time...has kind of accelerated things, I would have thought...

bitontheslide 27-06-2020 09:10 AM

They reckon that online shopping advanced by 5 years in market share over the period of the lockdown and that it's unlikely to revert by much now things are opening up again. It's not just online shopping that has shot forward though, many service industries have made huge progress forward that will never go backward. A computer in nearly every home to facilitate home working/education is a global phenomena


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