that was the summer of the great Cork scaffolding shortage


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Indeed Nicky and that ought to be seen as a scandal.

Sadly making light hearted as to rising deaths now are clouding that fact.

Another 155 deaths, (recorded ones that is), in the last 24 hours.
Even more families and connections left devastated.

The pain those families now left with, absolutely crushing.

And look at me now!

Both of them???


(:joker::joker:)

HMMM are you HMMM questioning HMMM the integrity HMMM of the judge? HMMMM

This complaint about care homes...

People forget that most people with covid show no symptoms at all...a symptomatic or something like that I think they are called.

True, but considering they're further away from China than Europe in general they shouldn't really be having more cases and deaths than the UK.

And in fairness all three countries shouldn't be doing worse than Asian countries given the origin of where this disease started.

The virus can get anywhere with people travelling Mock.

Sadly in the USA and Brazil, they have leaders who have played down this virus.
Just haven't really even acknowledged the danger from it.

So the results don't surprise me over there.

Here in the UK, as with the USA and S America, we had the forewarnings of what was coming.
We saw in February, the desperate plight Italy was ending up in.
We too, sat about, not planning effectively, waiting to enact reactive catch up action, as things arose.

It was stated by those advising our government, a good result, ( odd term good result) would be for UK deaths to be on or below 20,000.

They're already more than double that on the figures given by the government and believed to be actually over 3 times that amount.

Yet there's people applauding this government's dangerous and scandalous performance on this.

That we are up there with the USA and Brazil, in the top 3 of the worst Nations for deaths with still rising deaths too.

To use the term good in any context on death figures, is insulting to the likely hundreds of thousands who've lost loved ones to this pestilence.
I guess it's easy to do for those who haven't lost any loved ones to it.
Rather than be thankful and show understanding.
They call more deaths as good figures and even bring humour into play.

Also Johnson's disgraceful slur to Care homes too.
Is just about one of the lowest acts he has taken his performance to, on this pandemic too.

I just hope any investigation eventually into this and our government's handling of it.
Will be done with total independence with everything known on the table.
Because this government needs to have the buck stop fully at their door.
For their incompetence, negligence, procrastination, deceit, blatant lies and risking the lives dangerously of so many elderly in hospital and Care homes.
The blame lies mostly with the government and its failure to prepare,even with months of forewarnings of what was coming.

Desperately and devastatingly sad, and for millions, life can never now be the same, ever likely again.

correct Joey, which is why it is very well done to EU for giving a travel ban still to and from any of the highest risk countries

their approach regarding this whole covid crisis has been quite good overall


also Dr Fauci is correct in you shouldn't just look at death numbers, but more at amounts of new cases, new hospitalisations daily that can show more where you stand

same mindset what most dutch people had been looking into daily at graphics here, to basically ignore daily death numbers and more focus on new cases, new hospitalisations, and how much decrease in ICU takes places each day

I agree with what you're saying Joey, our Government and tbh some of our regular people have handled this situation disgracefully, greed and spoiled brats have been the two negative traits that I've seen when it's come to Covid-19 in the UK's handling of the situation, basically a recipe for disaster.

And what's Boris said about the Healthcare out of interest?

that applies to everywhere except the UK, where the focus is very much on death!

He has stated that some deaths in Care Homes were down to them not following the right practices.

Thereby trying to shift blame for the deaths of elderly in Care homes.
When Hospitals were instructed to discharge elderly from hospital, to free up beds.
They were sent back to the Care homes, (actually Piers Morgan has been on about this since March and exposed it), not having been tested for the virus..
Then infected other residents and Care staff too.

The government was and should have been responsible for bringing in testing, which they have messed about with anyway.

The end result is, elderly loved ones, were sacrificed almost.
Due to really no guideline practices actually being in place for Care homes.

For him now to try to detract from his and his government's chaos on this pandemic, by trying to blame the Care homes and their staff..
Is really sick and the being the lowest of the low.
In my view.

Obviously I'm mad at it, because I lost an Aunt from a Care home.
Who had been infected by a resident returning from Hospital.
The insulting sight of a PM trying to level blame to others, when the government should have put in place rulings to protect all, especially however the more vulnerable already sick and elderly, is infuriating and the man is a disgrace.

Because protection equipment too was not readily available, in fact even for NHS staff in hospitals, due to this government's shocking preparation for this virus.
All we got from Hancock was deceit and lies on a daily basis on protection equipment.

We who have lost loved ones unnecessarily however are not going to let the government off the hook..
I have no time for Piers Morgan but he has week after week exposed the deceit and lies of the government.
So much so, no Minister will go and be interviewed on ITV morning show, for the last 10 weeks now.
Yet every other Party and leader will do so.

That speaks volumes as to this government's fear of being seen as blatantly politically lying.
Even on this extremely dangerous and serious pandemic.

i don't think the staff in care homes were as careful as they could have been early on, but who was? The reason it spread so rapidly was because people everywhere were not careful.

We didn't have proper testing early on, how could they possibly know there was a problem with no testing and no symptoms?

Care homes suffered because it was a stuffy, enclosed environment, it was a breeding ground for the virus, the same as any other similar communal area

Blame cannot be attached to single events, it is attached to a catalog of issues that combine to form a large problem, and that's what happened with care homes.

The staff in the Care home where my Aunt lost her life.
Followed all they could at the time.

Residents there caught it after Hospitals were pushed to discharge elderly patients to Care homes and their own homes.

The fact there was no testing done, only selectively, was down to the government.

I'm not going to have Care home staff who ended up risking losing their lives or getting this virus, now blamed for the government's incompetence.

Hancock said in January, we were well prepared for this virus and had a test for it.
The government should have made sure all the vulnerably sick and elderly were tested, particularly on discharge and admission to hospital.
They didn't, pure and simple.

I'm sorry to hear about your Aunt Joey.

Yeah tbh Boris really should be careful on starting the blame game when we all should be trying to unite, I'm amazed that our leader has failed at rule 101 of being PM of the UK.

This is why I don't eat at the computer. You have a crumb stuck under your 'M' key.

Think this is called ' Doing a Johnson'... Blaming care workers.
Hospitals seeding care homes with cases is not a factor in your scenario?