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The Slim Reaper 17-07-2020 03:06 PM

London bobby kneeling on a black neck
 

Beso 17-07-2020 03:09 PM

Again the video taker is making the incident ten times worse simply by filming.

The Slim Reaper 17-07-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10881181)
Again the video taker is making the incident ten times worse simply by filming.

I'm sure if you asked the guy being arrested, he's thankful it's being filmed. He shouldn't be kneeling on his neck.

thesheriff443 17-07-2020 03:14 PM

He is not even kneeling on his neck he is hold his head down with his hand.

UserSince2005 17-07-2020 03:14 PM

His knee was on his head not his neck.
Potato shaped people tend not to have necks.

Anyway these police need to be a lot more careful.
Restraining people like that is not a good look.
Better training?

Oliver_W 17-07-2020 03:14 PM

tbh cops should have bodycams which are impossible for them to manually turn off, would be much easier to hold them to account, and the footage would be more reliable than an out of context phone clip.

thesheriff443 17-07-2020 03:16 PM

Both police officers doing a great job.

We saw a few weeks ago when they get surrounded while trying to detain a suspect.

Liam- 17-07-2020 03:17 PM

It’s just American cops though, we don’t have this problem, have we been lied to again?

Swan 17-07-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10881195)
It’s just American cops though, we don’t have this problem, have we been lied to again?

It's not comparable.

The Slim Reaper 17-07-2020 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10881189)
He is not even kneeling on his neck he is hold his head down with his hand.

You can see his leg is pushed into his shoulder, meaning he's on his neck, not his head, his head starts a bit higher up.

The Slim Reaper 17-07-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10881193)
Both police officers doing a great job.

We saw a few weeks ago when they get surrounded while trying to detain a suspect.

What does being surrounded have to do with anything. If a group surrounded me as I do my work, I wouldn't start kneeling on one of their necks. They are public servants.

Liam- 17-07-2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 10881197)
It's not comparable.

Is it not?

thesheriff443 17-07-2020 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10881206)
What does being surrounded have to do with anything. If a group surrounded me as I do my work, I wouldn't start kneeling on one of their necks. They are public servants.

He was resisting arrest and he was not on he’s neck get a pair of glasses , we have seen police attacked while doing their job.

rusticgal 17-07-2020 03:46 PM

He certainly looked like he was kneeling on his head at the beginning but then he got off him. Maybe the police are trained to do this when restraining people..but in light of what happened maybe they should refrain from doing it.
What was also despicable was the grief those members of the public were giving the police...

Glenn. 17-07-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10881189)
He is not even kneeling on his neck he is hold his head down with his hand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10881234)
He was resisting arrest and he was not on he’s neck get a pair of glasses , we have seen police attacked while doing their job.

His knee is very clearly on his neck. Are you blind?

Swan 17-07-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10881224)
Is it not?

You honestly think the Police brutality in the US is comparable to that in the UK?

user104658 17-07-2020 03:50 PM

For a balanced look here;

He is clearly not kneeling on his neck other than for less than a second at one point - although I think he might have moved away from his neck at that point because someone pointed out the obvious implications.

I do think they are being otherwise a bit heavy-handed, yes, and they're doing a crap job of de-escalating.

Glenn. 17-07-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10881244)
For a balanced look here;

He is clearly not kneeling on his neck other than for less than a second at one point - although I think he might have moved away from his neck at that point because someone pointed out the obvious implications.

I do think they are being otherwise a bit heavy-handed, yes, and they're doing a crap job of de-escalating.

More like 20 seconds

Livia 17-07-2020 03:52 PM

People will see what they want to see. It's why trial by jury is flawed... not that I have a better suggestion.

Nicky91 17-07-2020 03:59 PM

disgusting cops :yuk:

user104658 17-07-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10881245)
More like 20 seconds

For most of it he's kneeling on his head, unless he has an ear on his neck. Don't get me wrong - I'm not advocating for kneeling on anyone's HEAD either and as I said they're being heavy-handed regardless. I do think accuracy is important though, you can't make a firm argument when it's easily refutable with actual visual evidence. His knee is on the side of his head and jaw - that's bad enough - we don't have to pretend it's on his neck to "make it worse" because then people can just say "Umm no it's not" and move on. It feels like clickbait. You could just say, "cops kneel on black man's head" - it's shocking enough.

The Slim Reaper 17-07-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10881263)
For most of it he's kneeling on his head, unless he has an ear on his neck. Don't get me wrong - I'm not advocating for kneeling on anyone's HEAD either and as I said they're being heavy-handed regardless. I do think accuracy is important though, you can't make a firm argument when it's easily refutable with actual visual evidence. His knee is on the side of his head and jaw - that's bad enough - we don't have to pretend it's on his neck to "make it worse" because then people can just say "Umm no it's not" and move on. It feels like clickbait. You could just say, "cops kneel on black man's head" - it's shocking enough.

When he's on his neck, it's a bit difficult to say he's on his head. Clickbait? Sure.

rusticgal 17-07-2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10881255)
disgusting cops :yuk:


Really...why are they disgusting?

rusticgal 17-07-2020 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10881241)
His knee is very clearly on his neck. Are you blind?


Maybe you should watch it again...look where his teeth are in relation to the officers knee...he would be kneeling on his ear/head...not neck.

Liam- 17-07-2020 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10881279)
Really...why are they disgusting?

Because they’re holding a handcuffed man down and kneeling on his head/neck, it’s not great is it?


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