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Ammi 17-08-2020 10:25 AM

Woman charged with murder of 10yr old boy...
 
...there still isn’t a huge amount of information, obviously ...but I saw the story yesterday and it’s something I’ll follow, so...

A 40-year-old woman has been charged with the murder of a 10-year-old boy, police said.

A woman walked into a police station in the early hours of Sunday to speak to officers and the boy was later found dead at a home in Cumberland Park, Acton, west London.

Olga Freeman will appear at Uxbridge Magistrates’ Court on Monday.

Police believe they know the identity of the boy, who was known to Freeman, Scotland Yard said.

No-one else is being sought in connection with the death.

Reverend Nick Jones, 61, the rector of Acton, who lives in Cumberland Park, said on Sunday that news of the boy’s death was “shattering”.

He said: “I’m still shaking a bit, it’s hugely upsetting.”

Another neighbour said he was “in shock”.


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/woman-40-c...060754455.html

Cherie 17-08-2020 10:32 AM

She walked into the police station, so I wonder if its a Mercy killing

Niamh. 17-08-2020 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10897273)
She walked into the police station, so I wonder if its a Mercy killing

What do you mean by that? like the boy was ill and in pain?

Ammi 17-08-2020 10:35 AM

Mother, 40, is charged with murdering the 10-year-old disabled son she shared with a celebrity photographer after he was found dead at her £544,000 Acton flat



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...abled-son.html

Cherie 17-08-2020 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10897274)
What do you mean by that? like the boy was ill and in pain?

This is what I am wondering, he might have had some life limiting disability and she couldn't cope any more if he was in pain or that he could be taken by Covid at any point, I am just speculating, they are calling it murder, so if she killed him by accident, it would be manslaughter, the fact that she gave herself up as well, will have to wait and see I guess

Niamh. 17-08-2020 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10897277)
This is what I am wondering, he might have had some life limiting disability and she couldn't cope any more if he was in pain or that he could be taken by Covid at any point, I am just speculating, they are calling it murder, so if she killed him by accident, it would be manslaughter, the fact that she gave herself up as well, will have to wait and see I guess

Oh yes, Ammi has just posted he was disabled

user104658 17-08-2020 10:48 AM

Unless he was in severe and unresolvable pain then calling it a mercy killing is entirely wrong, in my opinion. I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt and think that perhaps they both were entirely lacking in support and has been failed by those around her/the care system and she's suffered an acute psychotic episode and done something, which would explain immediately turning herself in.

I say I'm "trying to" give the benefit of the doubt because as the parent of a disabled child this makes me feel really ****ing ill. "Mercy killing" someone with no capacity to speak for themself who is entirely reliant on you for support and advocacy is no excuse at all.

Niamh. 17-08-2020 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10897280)
Unless he was in severe and unresolvable pain then calling it a mercy killing is entirely wrong, in my opinion. I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt and think that perhaps they both were entirely lacking in support and has been failed by those around her/the care system and she's suffered an acute psychotic episode and done something, which would explain immediately turning herself in.

I say I'm "trying to" give the benefit of the doubt because as the parent of a disabled child this makes me feel really ****ing ill. "Mercy killing" someone with no capacity to speak for themself who is entirely reliant on you for support and advocacy is no excuse at all.

I would only ever really consider something a mercy killing if the person was in unresolvable pain tbh

Ammi 17-08-2020 10:53 AM

...it’s really heartbreakingly sad that a parent could ever have those thoughts to end her child’s life and to possibly have felt ‘emotionally isolated’...

Cherie 17-08-2020 10:58 AM

Lockdown has affected people alot, especially those shielding, not going to judge her actions until I know more

Ammi 17-08-2020 11:00 AM

...the impact of these times on mental health has been a huge thing, is something I’ve personally found with many conversations with families, throughout...

user104658 17-08-2020 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10897287)
Lockdown has affected people alot, especially those shielding, not going to judge her actions until I know more

I'm not judging her, if she suffered through lack of support and did this in mental distress then that is a tragedy. I just have issues with calling it "mercy" just because the child was disabled, for obvious reasons.

Cherie 17-08-2020 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10897299)
I'm not judging her, if she suffered through lack of support and did this in mental distress then that is a tragedy. I just have issues with calling it "mercy" just because the child was disabled, for obvious reasons.

I didn't expect a big debate about the word mercy in all honesty maybe I used the wrong word, I was just explaining my thoughts on what MIGHT have happened, what word would you use?

arista 17-08-2020 05:16 PM

Mother charged with murdering her autistic son, 10
 
This is sad
I assume the mother could no cope well.

https://news.sky.com/story/woman-cha...ondon-12050893


[Mother charged with murdering her autistic son, 10,
is pictured arriving at court as her ex-husband
the Celebrity photographer Dean Freeman pays
tribute to his 'beautiful and 'bright' boy
Olga Freeman, who lives at the property,
is charged with the murder of Dylan, 10,
after he was found dead
Photographer Dean Freeman, known for
his celebrity pictures, is his father and said
he was 'my world'
Mr Freeman is famous for his images
of David Beckham and the Spice Girls
as well as singer Michael Bublé
His late father Robert Freeman died last year
and took iconic photographs of music legends The Beatles
Police visited the house in west London
after a woman went to a police station in
the early hours of Sunday
There in Acton police officers discovered
the dead body of the child as neighbours told of shock]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...abled-son.html

thesheriff443 17-08-2020 05:26 PM

I don’t think she is the childs mother but the dads partner

Epic. 17-08-2020 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10897495)
I assume the mother could no cope well.

That's no excuse.

This woman is human garbage, end of story.

Ammi 17-08-2020 05:35 PM

...it’s already posted, Arista...

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...d.php?t=369285

AnnieK 17-08-2020 05:44 PM

Arista is on a roll today posting stories after they have already been posted.

Awful this....it keeps referring to the young boy as the photographers son but only says he is known to the woman charged with his murder.

Heartbreaking

user104658 17-08-2020 06:13 PM

My sympathy is drying up fast and being replaced with disgust and anger, but I can't be objective at all about this so I won't try to debate it.

arista 17-08-2020 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10897528)
My sympathy is drying up fast and being replaced with disgust and anger, but I can't be objective at all about this so I won't try to debate it.



It became too much for her.
Sadly she went too far.

Ammi 17-08-2020 06:29 PM

...where does it say that she’s not Dylan’s genetic mother...I can’t see that in the articles...?..

arista 17-08-2020 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10897541)
...where does it say that she’s not Dylan’s genetic mother...I can’t see that in the articles...?..


Yes it might be he (the sheriff) is mixed up
the Daily Mail link


"Olga Freeman, 40, was before Uxbridge Magistrates Court this afternoon accused of killing her child Dylan, who she had with former partner Dean Freeman."


But it was her child.

Cherie 17-08-2020 07:06 PM

yes it is her child, and the Dad is in Spain, not sure if he resides there or is on holiday

arista 19-08-2020 05:15 PM

The 10 year old
had parts of sponge in his throat, court hears.

https://news.sky.com/story/boy-10-al...hears-12052397

Cherie 19-08-2020 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10898489)
The 10 year old
had parts of sponge in his throat, court hears.

https://news.sky.com/story/boy-10-al...hears-12052397

oh that is grim


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