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Liberty4eva 28-08-2020 04:19 AM

Kenosha Riot Shootout: Your Reaction? (graphic video)
 
Not sure if this had made any news in the UK. On the third night of rioting in Kenosha Wisconsin a 17 year old with a rifle shot 3 people. Two of them died and the third (who had a gun in his hand) lost a huge chunk of his right arm and may have to have it amputated.

The 17 year old was part of a bigger group that was protecting private property from BLM protesters. Interestingly, the 3 people he shot were all convicted felons and one of them spent a decade in jail for raping a 12 year old girl. Did they deserve death? Well, perhaps not. The kid has been charged with murder but would be surprised if he is convicted. It's clearly self-defense and one of them (the pedophile) was egging him on to shoot him.

The only scene that is truly gruesome is where the guy is nursing his half-blown off arm. For better or worse, we in America have a 2nd amendment.

Mokka 28-08-2020 05:17 AM

Wow
So you are happy to live in a country where a 17 year old can illegally walk the streets with an assult rifle, and dole out vigilante justice firing on anyone who yells at him.
I watched your video and you must have some serious blinders on if you call that self-defense. The priors of the victims are irrelevant because the gunman a) wasn't privy to that information when he mowed them down, and b) doesn't have the legal right to be judge, jury and executioner. That is what a Justice system is for.
Good luck with your Country. I'm proud to not be apart of it.

Ammi 28-08-2020 05:31 AM

...I’m not going to click on the vid, it says banned video...it’s very sad that such a great country as the USA, the land of the free and the home of the brave and the land of opportunity etc...over time has now become the land that puts a deadly weapon into the hands of children....

arista 28-08-2020 05:53 AM

Yes its getting bad there

LeatherTrumpet 28-08-2020 07:06 AM

Yes it's the consequence of looting and burning property by criminals pretending to be upset by gossip and misinformation.

bitontheslide 28-08-2020 07:15 AM

it's a consequence of the police not being transparent over the issue and de-escalating it and Trump enabling individuals to violence with his rhetoric - and i'm not going to watch the video

Oliver_W 28-08-2020 07:44 AM

If the police knew how to do their jobs it wouldn't have happened.

And yes, I mean in the shooting of Jacob Blake and in allowing the protests to reach the point of riots.

Liam- 28-08-2020 08:20 AM

He went there with an illegal weapon and murdered two people, he should rot in prison with the other murderers, simple as that really.

Tom4784 28-08-2020 10:47 AM

Shootout would suggest a gunfight, that both parties have chosen to engage in combat. A person going around shooting unarmed people is murder. Don't try to frame what happened as a fight to make both sides look equally bad when it wasn't.

Murdering someone with a criminal record is still murder.

Denver 28-08-2020 10:50 AM

Have a terrorist as a president then expect his followers to do this

Liberty4eva 28-08-2020 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10903651)
Shootout would suggest a gunfight, that both parties have chosen to engage in combat. A person going around shooting unarmed people is murder. Don't try to frame what happened as a fight to make both sides look equally bad when it wasn't.

Murdering someone with a criminal record is still murder.

If you watch the video he's clearly trying to escape the people trying to attack him. One of the people shot had a handgun. Video and photo evidence shows this. And he wasn't the only one shooting. There is shooting by someone else (not sure who or where).

Liam- 28-08-2020 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva (Post 10903730)
If you watch the video he's clearly trying to escape the people trying to attack him. One of the people shot had a handgun. Video and photo evidence shows this. And he wasn't the only one shooting. There is shooting by someone else (not sure who or where).

He was being chased by people trying to disarm him after he had just murdered someone

Denver 28-08-2020 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva (Post 10903730)
If you watch the video he's clearly trying to escape the people trying to attack him. One of the people shot had a handgun. Video and photo evidence shows this. And he wasn't the only one shooting. There is shooting by someone else (not sure who or where).

If you actually watched more then 1 video you would understand he shot someone in the head and killed them before being chased

Tom4784 28-08-2020 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva (Post 10903730)
If you watch the video he's clearly trying to escape the people trying to attack him. One of the people shot had a handgun. Video and photo evidence shows this. And he wasn't the only one shooting. There is shooting by someone else (not sure who or where).

You mean he just killed someone and people are trying to stop him from getting away?

Why do the right wing struggle so much when it comes to facts?

LeatherTrumpet 28-08-2020 01:36 PM

Videos prove self defense for all three shot:

-1st chap shot (in head) chased the 17 year old boy (Kyle) and threw a firebomb at him in the dealership lot then charged him before Kyle shot him as Kyle was surrounded by rioters/looters coming from all directions.

- 2nd chap shot (in chest) was 3rd in a string of rioters/looters trying to knock Kyle out (hitting him in the head with a skateboard) while Kyle was running to police.

- 3rd chap shot (in arm) charged Kyle with a handgun after faking hands-up.

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Liberty4eva 28-08-2020 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10903776)
You mean he just killed someone and people are trying to stop him from getting away?

Why do the right wing struggle so much when it comes to facts?

Getting away? When he shot that pedophile in the head he immediately called the police on the phone. You can faintly hear him say "I just shot someone". And he was trying to get away from them. He actually was going towards the police to turn himself in.

Liam- 28-08-2020 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva (Post 10903811)
Getting away? When he shot that pedophile in the head he immediately called the police on the phone. You can faintly hear him say "I just shot someone". And he was trying to get away from them. He actually was going towards the police to turn himself in.

He didn’t phone the police, he phoned his friend, read the official charge documents, his friend confirmed it to the police.

The police drove past him and true patriots tried to disarm him after he murdered someone, murdering someone trying to disarm you after you’ve murdered someone isn’t self defence.

Liberty4eva 28-08-2020 01:55 PM

To the editor: why did you remove my video? That kind of defeats the purpose of this thread. I give full disclaimer that it is graphic and describe how it is graphic. If people choose to watch that's their choice. What are we a bunch of children? You might as well just delete the whole thread without the video.

Tom4784 28-08-2020 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva (Post 10903811)
Getting away? When he shot that pedophile in the head he immediately called the police on the phone. You can faintly hear him say "I just shot someone". And he was trying to get away from them. He actually was going towards the police to turn himself in.

You don't know the facts that are widely available.

Murder is murder, Liberty. If you murder someone and then people try to disarm you, that's not self defense on your part and trying to frame it as such is just disingenuous bull****. The white supremacist you're defending travelled state lines with an illegal gun because he wanted to use it, he wanted to kill someone. You don't go to that much bother to protect a building that has no relevance to you, you do it because you want to harm protesters and most likely more specifically, black people.

Niamh. 28-08-2020 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva (Post 10903814)
To the editor: why did you remove my video? That kind of defeats the purpose of this thread. I give full disclaimer that it is graphic and describe how it is graphic. If people choose to watch that's their choice. What are we a bunch of children? You might as well just delete the whole thread without the video.

Graphic video's like that are not allowed. "What are we a bunch of Children"? The age limit is 13 for this forum so yes there may be members who are not adults. Would you like me to delete the thread?

Oliver_W 28-08-2020 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10903815)
The white supremacist you're defending travelled state lines with an illegal gun because he wanted to use it

Have you found any proof the murderer was a white supremacist?

Tom4784 28-08-2020 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10903821)
Have you found any proof the murderer was a white supremacist?

Trump Supporter, travelled across state lines with an illegal gun to use against protesters protesting police brutality against black people.

It's not exactly difficult to put 2 and 2 together, Oliver.

Denver 28-08-2020 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10903821)
Have you found any proof the murderer was a white supremacist?

Being a hard-core trump supporter is enough proof

Oliver_W 28-08-2020 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10903825)
Trump Supporter, travelled across state lines with an illegal gun to use against protesters protesting police brutality against black people.

It's not exactly difficult to put 2 and 2 together, Oliver.

He didn't say he wanted to use it against protesters, he said he wanted to protect the area from rioting. Maybe race doesn't come into it at all :shrug: If the protesters had simply protested, at least three lives wouldn't have been lost, and people's buildings and business wouldn't have been destroyed. And also, the wannabe vigilantes would be standing around with nothing to do.

Liam- 28-08-2020 02:23 PM

I think you’ll find that if they weren’t shot, they’d still be alive, what they were doing wouldn’t have lead to their death without a madman with a gun


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