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Samm 14-09-2020 09:03 AM

Face masks could be giving people Covid-19 immunity, researchers suggest
 
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Face masks may be inadvertently giving people Covid-19 immunity and making them get less sick from the virus, academics have suggested in one of the most respected medical journals in the world.

The commentary, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, advances the unproven but promising theory that universal face mask wearing might be helping to reduce the severity of the virus and ensuring that a greater proportion of new infections are asymptomatic.

If this hypothesis is borne out, the academics argue, then universal mask-wearing could become a form of variolation (inoculation) that would generate immunity and “thereby slow the spread of the virus in the United States and elsewhere” as the world awaits a vaccine.

It comes as increasing evidence suggests that the amount of virus someone is exposed to at the start of infection - the “infectious dose” - may determine the severity of their illness. Indeed, a large study published in the Lancet last month found that “viral load at diagnosis” was an “independent predictor of mortality” in hospital patients.

This is because even a low viral load can be enough to induce an immune response, which is effectively what a typical vaccine does.
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interesting, doses may not be large enough to cause symptoms but they could still be large enough to induce an immune response. So by wearing a mask and getting very small viral doses, you may actually build up immunity to Covid 19. This is an acedemic opinion piece in the NEJM, this is an hypothesis from a noted expert. NEJM is one of the top medical journals in the world.

the process is called inoculation.. this is how small pox was kept in check. They would take some pus from the open wound of a small pox patient, put it on a pin head and poke the arms of those who didn't yet have it. It was just enough viral dose to provoke an immune response.

So mask up!

Niamh. 14-09-2020 09:09 AM

Yeah, I don't know what people's problems are with the masks, is it really that much of an inconvenience? The more people wear them, the more likely it will be to get back to some what of normal life

Ammi 14-09-2020 09:54 AM

...maybe kind of unrelated but kind of is as well....I went to the bank last week, which I hadn’t been to for a while, but this was something that couldn’t be done online...anyway with the indoor transaction machines, an older man was using one, but not sure what to do../..how to operate it...the staff member who was assisting him was wearing a mask but he wasn’t....in her assistance, she was leaning right over him and her face was only a few inches from his and he didn’t step back at all to give her more ‘safe space’...so she was ‘protecting him’ with her mask wearing but he obviously didn’t feel ‘vulnerable’ to being protected, as it were...he was also placing her at risk because he could have been asymptomatic etc...

Cal. 14-09-2020 09:59 AM

I love wearing my mask it makes me feel like a bad bitch

Cal. 14-09-2020 09:59 AM

Especially when I pull it off dramatically looking slightly annoyed in case any fit boys are watching me in the supermarket car park

Niamh. 14-09-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal. (Post 10913329)
Especially when I pull it off dramatically looking slightly annoyed in case any fit boys are watching me in the supermarket car park

:laugh2:

DouglasS 14-09-2020 10:24 AM

To be honest there’s research and studies for everything, there is likely research opposing this

Tom4784 14-09-2020 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10913275)
Yeah, I don't know what people's problems are with the masks, is it really that much of an inconvenience? The more people wear them, the more likely it will be to get back to some what of normal life

Entitled people that confuse wearing a piece of fabric on your face to being oppressed. It's just people throwing tantrums over nothing.

Niamh. 14-09-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10913358)
Entitled people that confuse wearing a piece of fabric on your face to being oppressed. It's just people throwing tantrums over nothing.

Would they rather another full on Lock down? Do they argue when they're told they can't fly off to their holidays if they don't put their seat belts on in the plane? ****ing stupidity

Nicky91 14-09-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10913275)
Yeah, I don't know what people's problems are with the masks, is it really that much of an inconvenience? The more people wear them, the more likely it will be to get back to some what of normal life

groups like anti-maskers, viruswaanzin believe wearing those masks take away something of your freedom

some here in my country (especially one founder of viruswaanzin Willem Engel)

he said like those who recommend wearing masks, staying at home, working from home, those people who order that are similar to gestapo


very silly, since even with a mask you still have 98% of your freedom to do whatever you want

Ammi 14-09-2020 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal. (Post 10913327)
I love wearing my mask it makes me feel like a bad bitch

...but you are a ba...../mask wearer, Cal....

Ammi 14-09-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal. (Post 10913329)
Especially when I pull it off dramatically looking slightly annoyed in case any fit boys are watching me in the supermarket car park

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6fJ5...tBkc/giphy.gif

The Slim Reaper 14-09-2020 10:52 AM

We didn't fight 2 world wars to be told to wear masks, etc.

Crimson Dynamo 14-09-2020 10:58 AM

everyone in Scotland is wearing them with no problems

:spin:

Beso 14-09-2020 11:02 AM

I wonder how they measure the amount of covid people were exposed to when they caught it...

Sounds a bit far fetched to me atm.

Nicky91 14-09-2020 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10913380)
I wonder how they measure the amount of covid people were exposed to when they caught it...

Sounds a bit far fetched to me atm.

not precisely since therefore you need everyone to be tested ofc, and you have not got that amount of testkits

so more hypothetically too, with information of those tested positive where they had been the last week, who was near them, then you can ask those people to go into 2 weeks quarantine as well (out of precaution)

Cherie 14-09-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10913375)
everyone in Scotland is wearing them with no problems

:spin:

Can you take Parmy back :hehe:

Toy Soldier 14-09-2020 11:29 AM

Honestly I just quite like them aesthetically, maybe I'm drawn to people's eyes? But definitely just when wandering around out and about, people are looking distinctly less ugly lately :joker:.

Toy Soldier 14-09-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10913375)
everyone in Scotland is wearing them with no problems

:spin:

Actually not to throw a spanner in the works - but I went to the local bakers the other day and there were 4 people in front of me (two groups of two) and of those four people... only one had a mask - and it was (confusingly) around her bottom lip and chin :think:.

It was a strange one because I was at a shopping centre the following day and must have passed hundreds of people, and didn't see ONE without a mask.

Niamh. 14-09-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10913402)
Honestly I just quite like them aesthetically, maybe I'm drawn to people's eyes? But definitely just when wandering around out and about, people are looking distinctly less ugly lately :joker:.

I like when people can't see my mouth actually, I'm kind of anti social a lot of times and it makes me feel more enclosed and happy :laugh:

Ammi 14-09-2020 11:37 AM

...I guess that aesthetically is what I don’t like about them just because of what they represent.../...a changed world of less contact and freedom and more anxiousness etc...and I’m not entirely certain that a smile is held in the eyes, so they take so much away in a smile being more masked/simple human interaction....but for safety and care etc, I couldn’t not like them as I feel they’re a huge help to keeping us all safer...

Crimson Dynamo 14-09-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10913405)
Actually not to throw a spanner in the works - but I went to the local bakers the other day and there were 4 people in front of me (two groups of two) and of those four people... only one had a mask - and it was (confusingly) around her bottom lip and chin :think:.

It was a strange one because I was at a shopping centre the following day and must have passed hundreds of people, and didn't see ONE without a mask.

i expect they were...English

:skull:

Toy Soldier 14-09-2020 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10913416)
i expect they were...English

:skull:

They were tradies from a local flats conversion and their lady supervisor in a high-vis jacket

Sign Of The Times

Beso 14-09-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10913387)
Can you take Parmy back :hehe:

London's domestic abuse cases would go up if I were to leave.:smug:

So I'm staying put, with my mask.

Tom4784 14-09-2020 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10913360)
Would they rather another full on Lock down? Do they argue when they're told they can't fly off to their holidays if they don't put their seat belts on in the plane? ****ing stupidity

They don't think that far ahead, you also get people who oppose masks thinking that Covid is a hoax. Delusion, entitlement and stupidity rolled into one. If another lockdown were to happen, they'd blame everyone else but themselves because it's never their fault.

We live in an age where wilful ignorance is seen as enlightenment and science is becoming demonised because people only care about things that fuel their delusions, not facts.


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