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Josiah. 18-09-2020 11:49 PM

Ruth Bader Ginsburg has passed away
 
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the demure firebrand who in her 80s became a legal, cultural and feminist icon, died Friday. The Supreme Court announced her death, saying the cause was complications from metastatic cancer of the pancreas.

The court, in a statement, said Ginsburg died at her home in Washington surrounded by family. She was 87.

Read more: https://www.npr.org/2020/09/18/10030...ity-dies-at-87

MB. 18-09-2020 11:53 PM

I literally just watched the documentary about her on Netflix this week... RIP

LaLaLand 18-09-2020 11:53 PM

An absolute legend. RIP.

arista 18-09-2020 11:54 PM

https://news.sky.com/story/us-suprem...-dies-12075701


Yes she was very ill with cancer

MB. 18-09-2020 11:57 PM

also, America's legal system is so broken that their entire democracy as we know it was essentially resting on the health of a single 87-year-old woman, so... the foreseeable future is not going to be pretty

Trouble1321075 19-09-2020 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Josiah. (Post 10916716)
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the demure firebrand who in her 80s became a legal, cultural and feminist icon, died Friday. The Supreme Court announced her death, saying the cause was complications from metastatic cancer of the pancreas.



The court, in a statement, said Ginsburg died at her home in Washington surrounded by family. She was 87.



Read more: https://www.npr.org/2020/09/18/10030...ity-dies-at-87

For real?

I didnt agree with her ideologically but i respect her. It would be a lie for ms to say im not glaf she is off the vdnch but sad its this way

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Kate! 19-09-2020 02:09 AM

RIP

Ammi 19-09-2020 04:31 AM

...a great age for a great lady...:love:...

...”I’m a very strong believer in listening and learning from others”...such wisdom...

Strictly Jake 19-09-2020 07:03 AM

I thought this said ruth badger at first and was so shocked!

bitontheslide 19-09-2020 07:59 AM

she was a fighter all the way to the end, i think she endured 5 different cancer incidents

Ammi 19-09-2020 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10916748)
she was a fighter all the way to the end, i think she endured 5 different cancer incidents

...I think that her husband did as well...not 5 maybe, but he was a cancer survivor, I’m sure...before the disgusting disease did take him from his loved ones...

parmnion 19-09-2020 08:16 AM

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...t-b491380.html

Tom4784 19-09-2020 01:06 PM

She was an incredible person, a feminist icon and a trailblazer in many ways. The amount of good she has done in service to the people while holding her position cannot be understated. It's a true loss for the US as a whole, especially considering how that hypocrite Mitch McConnell has already put plans in motion to put a conservative judge in her place despite voting against judges being appointed in Election years before.

RBG upheld the values of her position incredibly well, and sadly, her death will be used as a method to ensure that the Supreme Court falls even further under republican rule. It makes me angry to think that a lot of the good she did will likely be overruled.

GiRTh 19-09-2020 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10916729)
...a great age for a great lady...:love:...

...”I’m a very strong believer in listening and learning from others”...such wisdom...

A great loss. RIP

arista 19-09-2020 03:54 PM

Republicans vow to vote on Trump pick

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54216710

Liam- 19-09-2020 04:10 PM

Of course they do, because they’re hypocrites

Trouble1321075 19-09-2020 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10916911)
Republicans vow to vote on Trump pick

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54216710

Why wouldn't they? If democrats could of gotten garland in they would of done it too.

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Trouble1321075 19-09-2020 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10916914)
Of course they do, because they’re hypocrites

Ginsburg could of stepped down while obama was president but instead she gambled with the seat and lost. The Republicans would be foolish to gamble on that seat when they have the power to name anyone they want.

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Liam- 19-09-2020 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouble1321075 (Post 10916916)
Why wouldn't they? If democrats could of gotten garland in they would of done it too.

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The nomination of Garland was blocked by republicans because it was deemed ‘too close’ to an election, mainly by McConnell and Grahame, if they decide to try and go ahead with it, despite their previous stance, it will make a mockery of the ‘system’

Trouble1321075 19-09-2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10916927)
The nomination of Garland was blocked by republicans because it was deemed ‘too close’ to an election, mainly by McConnell and Grahame, if they decide to try and go ahead with it, despite their previous stance, it will make a mockery of the ‘system’

Yup they sure did say that, and the democrats argued that the upcoming election didn't matter it was the sitting presidents privilege to get a vote on his nominee. Do they still feel that way or are the democrats hypocrites too?

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Liam- 19-09-2020 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouble1321075 (Post 10917029)
Yup they sure did say that, and the democrats argued that the upcoming election didn't matter it was the sitting presidents privilege to get a vote on his nominee. Do they still feel that way or are the democrats hypocrites too?

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They’re just trying to keep the republicans to their word

Trouble1321075 19-09-2020 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10917034)
They’re just trying to keep the republicans to their word

Right, there is nothing principled about the Democrats position either. Both sides are arguing from whatever is politically convenient in the moment.

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Tom4784 19-09-2020 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouble1321075 (Post 10916916)
Why wouldn't they? If democrats could of gotten garland in they would of done it too.

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Well considering most of the Republicans said that it would be unjust to nominate an SC judge before an election in 2016, they really shouldn't be outrageous hypocrites and do exactly that now the shoe is on the other foot.

LeatherTrumpet 19-09-2020 08:45 PM

Genuinely never heard of her

Tom4784 19-09-2020 08:46 PM

Honestly, being like 'BUT THE DEMOCRATS' is pointless. Republicans enforced a standard in 2016 that they themselves will not abide by in 2020. You can complain about the dems all you want but it's not gonna change the fact that the republicans are massive hypocrites.

Trouble1321075 19-09-2020 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10917169)
Well considering most of the Republicans said that it would be unjust to nominate an SC judge before an election in 2016, they really shouldn't be outrageous hypocrites and do exactly that now the shoe is on the other foot.

They are fools if they don't use their position to name another judge to the bench.

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Liam- 19-09-2020 09:04 PM

Well the White House has said that there won’t be time to do it before the election anyway

Tom4784 19-09-2020 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouble1321075 (Post 10917190)
They are fools if they don't use their position to name another judge to the bench.

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No, they'd just be hypocrites offering up more reasons not to trust them. I don't know how you can defend the republicans and then try to paint democrats as hypocrites while ignoring and then trying to justify Republican hypocrisy.

Trouble1321075 19-09-2020 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10917173)
Honestly, being like 'BUT THE DEMOCRATS' is pointless. Republicans enforced a standard in 2016 that they themselves will not abide by in 2020. You can complain about the dems all you want but it's not gonna change the fact that the republicans are massive hypocrites.

You can call republicans names all you want but its not gonna change the fact that they are doing exactly what the progressives would of done if the roles were reversed. They would of blocked a republican nominee in 16 had they held a majority in the senate and they would of elected a progressive judge to fill the current open seat before the election. Republicans are gonna put another judge on the bench.
This is ginsbergs fault for not stepping down when obama asked her to. She gambled that she could outlast a republican controlled process and she and her party lost.

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Trouble1321075 19-09-2020 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10917194)
No, they'd just be hypocrites offering up more reasons not to trust them. I don't know how you can defend the republicans and then try to paint democrats as hypocrites while ignoring and then trying to justify Republican hypocrisy.

Im being honest about it. Neither party would pass up an opportunity to name a judge to the bench. Look at the lengths progressives went to block kavanaugh. Politics has become a bloodsport.

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arista 19-09-2020 09:41 PM

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Tom4784 20-09-2020 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Trouble1321075 (Post 10917198)
You can call republicans names all you want but its not gonna change the fact that they are doing exactly what the progressives would of done if the roles were reversed. They would of blocked a republican nominee in 16 had they held a majority in the senate and they would of elected a progressive judge to fill the current open seat before the election. Republicans are gonna put another judge on the bench.
This is ginsbergs fault for not stepping down when obama asked her to. She gambled that she could outlast a republican controlled process and she and her party lost.

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Yeah, **** her for dying! Good grief.... So, let me get this straight, the Republicans being dirty little lying hypocrites that can't abide by the standards they force on others is not their fault, it's the fault of a woman who died of cancer and the dems for not being as morally corrupt and opportunistic as the republicans... That's a lot of blame for the republican's actions to place at everyone's door BUT the republicans.

Your logic is..... fascinating....

Tom4784 20-09-2020 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Trouble1321075 (Post 10917203)
Im being honest about it. Neither party would pass up an opportunity to name a judge to the bench. Look at the lengths progressives went to block kavanaugh. Politics has become a bloodsport.

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Because Kavanaugh's a rapist piece of ****. You also can't talk about politics becoming a bloodsport when you're obviously playing the game by jumping through hoops to avoid attributing any blame to the republicans for their own actions.

arista 20-09-2020 02:25 AM

President Trump is picking a Lady for the Job.
He said speaking to a reporter at a Rally.


So all is good


Ref: SkyNewsHD

Ammi 20-09-2020 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10916865)
A great loss. RIP

...she was a true advocate of all equality../...just of equal humankind...:lovedup:..

...her words in discrimination...

"I try to teach through my opinions, through my speeches, how wrong it is to judge people on the basis of what they look like, color of their skin, whether they’re men or women."

Niamh. 20-09-2020 08:45 AM

RIP [emoji53]

Trouble1321075 20-09-2020 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10917279)
Yeah, **** her for dying! Good grief.... So, let me get this straight, the Republicans being dirty little lying hypocrites that can't abide by the standards they force on others is not their fault, it's the fault of a woman who died of cancer and the dems for not being as morally corrupt and opportunistic as the republicans... That's a lot of blame for the republican's actions to place at everyone's door BUT the republicans.



Your logic is..... fascinating....

Im not "blaming" her. I am pointing that she was offered an opportunity from Obama to step down and she rejected his offer. That is not an opinion, it is a fact.
She took a calculated political risk and her health failed her. Her time of passing has occurred with a republican president in office and a republican majority senate. That is the worst case scenerio for democrats.
You and others are complaining that its not fair and republicans are hypocrites. The fact is that it is completely fair. No rules are being broken.
Republicans and Democrats are both hypocrites. Its naive to believe that either party would of done anything differently in the same situation. They both play a win at all costs game.
I got news for you, you better worry about Breyers seat too because he is no spring chicken. Thomas may also retire if we have a republican president and senate.

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The Slim Reaper 20-09-2020 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouble1321075 (Post 10917451)
Im not "blaming" her. I am pointing that she was offered an opportunity from Obama to step down and she rejected his offer. That is not an opinion, it is a fact.
She took a calculated political risk and her health failed her. Her time of passing has occurred with a republican president in office and a republican majority senate. That is the worst case scenerio for democrats.
You and others are complaining that its not fair and republicans are hypocrites. The fact is that it is completely fair. No rules are being broken.
Republicans and Democrats are both hypocrites. Its naive to believe that either party would of done anything differently in the same situation. They both play a win at all costs game.
I got news for you, you better worry about Breyers seat too because he is no spring chicken. Thomas may also retire if we have a republican president and senate.

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Prior to Garland, republican presidents appointed judges if dems held the senate, and dem presidents appointed judges with republican senates.

It's not even a dem issue, republicans just decided to take a dump on precedent and started inventing their own rules and now they've decided that their own rules don't apply to them. Because you're a republican I can understand that you don't care (even though these things are cyclical and will come back around eventually), but to not even acknowledge reality doesn't make a lot of sense.

Tom4784 20-09-2020 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trouble1321075 (Post 10917451)
Im not "blaming" her. I am pointing that she was offered an opportunity from Obama to step down and she rejected his offer. That is not an opinion, it is a fact.
She took a calculated political risk and her health failed her. Her time of passing has occurred with a republican president in office and a republican majority senate. That is the worst case scenerio for democrats.
You and others are complaining that its not fair and republicans are hypocrites. The fact is that it is completely fair. No rules are being broken.
Republicans and Democrats are both hypocrites. Its naive to believe that either party would of done anything differently in the same situation. They both play a win at all costs game.
I got news for you, you better worry about Breyers seat too because he is no spring chicken. Thomas may also retire if we have a republican president and senate.

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You're endorsing that politicians, people in power, act in bad faith, you treat this like it's a game in which you have to do anything to win and it's not. It's about securing human rights, it's not about winning or losing. If those in power act in bad faith, then they must pay the consequences because the decisions that the SC make are no joke.

If Republicans opposed the appointment of a new Judge in 2016 because it was an election year, they simply cannot change their minds because it now benefits them. When you enforce a standard upon others, you must also adhere to it.

I'm not naive, you have simply divorced yourself from your own sense of morality just so you can bend over backwards to exalt the republicans from blame. It's utterly ridiculous that anyone would support those in charge acting in such bad faith against the interests of the people and find it acceptable because it's 'their side' that benefits from it. Politics is not a game.

The Slim Reaper 20-09-2020 01:17 PM

It might actually do the US good to have abortion taken away for a couple of years, so they can start to realise the US experiment was to move away from European theocracies not create a new one.


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