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Smithy 18-01-2021 02:43 PM

UK now has the worst death rate in the WORLD from CoVid19
 
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The UK now has the highest death rate from Covid-19 of any country in the world, the latest data has revealed.

An average of 935 daily deaths in the UK over the last week was the equivalent of more than 16 people in every million dying each day from coronavirus.

Figures compiled by University of Oxford-based research platform Our World in Data show that no other country matches the UK’s per capita rate of deaths.

The UK overtook the Czech Republic, which had held the top spot since 11 January, after the government published the latest coronavirus deaths on Sunday night.

The weekend’s figures tend to be lower due to a lag in reporting, meaning the number of new daily deaths in the UK will likely rise once again when new figures are announced on Monday.

https://static.independent.co.uk/202...ebp&quality=75

There’s honestly no words :/

Niamh. 18-01-2021 02:46 PM

I thought Belgium were really bad there for ages but they're not even on that list now?

Oliver_W 18-01-2021 02:50 PM

Jesus, how much longer is BoJo gonna cling on? Bloody stupid winnet.

Smithy 18-01-2021 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10986884)
I thought Belgium were really bad there for ages but they're not even on that list now?

That was back in October when they were at their worst

Ammi 18-01-2021 03:05 PM

...I don’t understand, this one says USA...U.K. 5th...

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...de-by-country/

Ammi 18-01-2021 03:05 PM

...so Spain isn’t in the top 30 at all with the first one...

Smithy 18-01-2021 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10986890)
...I don’t understand, this one says USA...U.K. 5th...

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...de-by-country/

That’s the cumulative number of deaths which isn’t the same as the death rate

Niamh. 18-01-2021 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10986890)
...I don’t understand, this one says USA...U.K. 5th...

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...de-by-country/

Smithys one is per capita, your one is just total deaths I think?

Toy Soldier 18-01-2021 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10986890)
...I don’t understand, this one says USA...U.K. 5th...

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...de-by-country/

I think the OP is slightly misleading; this figure doesn't represent the full length of the pandemic, it is the number of deaths per million population in the last 7 days only... thus, places that are currently in a "dip" in the infection cycle will be low on the list, those currently "peaking" will be high, and the list order will change constantly over time.

As different countries are in different phases at different times... to be honest it's a bit of a meaningless stat. You can only really compare two countries if you compare the numbers for both at peak, which will not be in the same snapshot of time.

Ammi 18-01-2021 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10986893)
That’s the cumulative number of deaths which isn’t the same as the death rate

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10986894)
Smithys one is per capita, your one is just total deaths I think?

...oh ok, really wow...we’re an island and in theory we could have been COVID free because of that, if the government had acted in the beginning to close down travel...to make some errors is excusable ...but to have the worst death rate...?...is just an horrendous reflection of their action and inaction...

Toy Soldier 18-01-2021 03:12 PM

What the stat tells us:

Over the last 7 days the UK has had the highest death rate of any country per capita.


What it doesn't tell us:

Anything else at all.

Niamh. 18-01-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10986897)
What the stat tells us:

Over the last 7 days the UK has had the highest death rate of any country per capita.


What it doesn't tell us:

Anything else at all.

I think we were the highest last week (or the week before) we've gone right down the list now though so yeah

Ammi 18-01-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10986895)
I think the OP is slightly misleading; this figure doesn't represent the full length of the pandemic, it is the number of deaths per million population in the last 7 days only... thus, places that are currently in a "dip" in the infection cycle will be low on the list, those currently "peaking" will be high, and the list order will change constantly over time.

As different countries are in different phases at different times... to be honest it's a bit of a meaningless stat. You can only really compare two countries if you compare the numbers for both at peak, which will not be in the same snapshot of time.

...oh ok again...:laugh:...but surely we should never be or have been the worst at any point in time, though...

arista 18-01-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10986882)
There’s honestly no words :/



Nations Above 10,000 Covid-19 deaths.



395,851 USA deaths
209,296 Brazil deaths
152,274 India deaths
140,241 Mexico deaths

88,747 United Kingdom deaths
81,800 Italy deaths
70,093 France deaths
64,601 Russia deaths
56,803 Iran deaths
53,314 Spain deaths
48,256 Colombia deaths
46,674 Germany deaths
45,295 Argentina deaths
38,654 Peru deaths
36,851 South Africa deaths
33,355 Poland deaths
25,987 Indonesia deaths
23,832 Turkey deaths
21,767 Ukraine deaths
20,396 Belgium deaths
17,887 Canada deaths
17,435 Chile deaths
17,164 Romania deaths
14,338 Czechia deaths
14,316 Ecuador deaths
13,066 Netherlands deaths
12,935 Iraq deaths
11,341 Hungary deaths
10,951 Pakistan deaths
10,323 Sweden deaths





https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

arista 18-01-2021 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10986884)
I thought Belgium were really bad there for ages but they're not even on that list now?


Nations Above 10,000 Covid-19 deaths.



395,851 USA deaths
209,296 Brazil deaths
152,274 India deaths
140,241 Mexico deaths
88,747 United Kingdom deaths
81,800 Italy deaths
70,093 France deaths
64,601 Russia deaths
56,803 Iran deaths
53,314 Spain deaths
48,256 Colombia deaths
46,674 Germany deaths
45,295 Argentina deaths
38,654 Peru deaths
36,851 South Africa deaths
33,355 Poland deaths
25,987 Indonesia deaths
23,832 Turkey deaths
21,767 Ukraine deaths
20,396 Belgium deaths
17,887 Canada deaths
17,435 Chile deaths
17,164 Romania deaths
14,338 Czechia deaths
14,316 Ecuador deaths
13,066 Netherlands deaths
12,935 Iraq deaths
11,341 Hungary deaths
10,951 Pakistan deaths
10,323 Sweden deaths





https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

bitontheslide 18-01-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10986899)
...oh ok again...:laugh:...but surely we should never be or have been the worst at any point in time, though...

it's been reported all over the world that we have a new variant here that has spiked the infection rate and forced us in to lockdown. With a spiking infection rate, the death rate goes up, thats a fact, and as we are approaching or at the peak infection rate now ... we are going to be the highest death rate at this point in time. It's the same old story that has been present since the beginning of the pandemic. Manipulated statistics to push a narrative

Jessica. 18-01-2021 03:36 PM

Absolutely embarrassing, same for us here in Portugal, we were doing amazingly well, slowing the curve and then the breaks between restrictions just made things go mad again.

LeatherTrumpet 18-01-2021 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10986912)
it's been reported all over the world that we have a new variant here that has spiked the infection rate and forced us in to lockdown. With a spiking infection rate, the death rate goes up, thats a fact, and as we are approaching or at the peak infection rate now ... we are going to be the highest death rate at this point in time. It's the same old story that has been present since the beginning of the pandemic. Manipulated statistics to push a narrative

And using death to do so....


:skull:

arista 18-01-2021 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 10986914)
Absolutely embarrassing, same for us here in Portugal, we were doing amazingly well, slowing the curve and then the breaks between restrictions just made things go mad again.



Soon you will be in my 10,000 Covid Death List

Like Sweden is Now



10,323 Sweden deaths
9,909 Philippines deaths
9,636 Bolivia deaths
9,028 Portugal deaths



Professional Data : https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

joeysteele 18-01-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10986899)
...oh ok again...:laugh:...but surely we should never be or have been the worst at any point in time, though...

No we shouldn't.
I'll not try to make any excusing for this government on covid, sorry.
No way will I.

UserSince2005 18-01-2021 04:44 PM

were too ****ing honest, we should just do what germany does and if there something wrong with you other than covid then that is what you died from.

Vicky. 18-01-2021 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10986951)
were too ****ing honest, we should just do what germany does and if there something wrong with you other than covid then that is what you died from.

Our way of counting is bloody ridiculous tbh. I thought it was crappy when it was 28 days after a positive covid test, regardless of actual death. And I recently found out that they switched this to anyone who has a positive test in the previous 60 days! Which will bloody obviously make the numbers shoot up?! Like, if you did this with other illnesses, you could make the likes of norovirus seem deadly (not saying covid is not an issue or anything though, obviously I know its very serious for some people), if we were recording deaths of any kind, 2 months after the infection.

Surely there are better way to do it..just seems so weird and has never really made sense to me at 28 days, let alone 60 :umm2:

Is it right that some countries don't add in carehomes and such?

Regardless though, every time there is a decision to be made, it appears to be the wrong one (the xmas thing was ridiculous, days after saying Starmer was 'trying to steal xmas' :rolleyes: ). I am not surprised our deaths are quite high.

Ontop of this, the whole eat out to help out thing..was stupid. I took advantage of it mind don't get me wrong, but to encourage mixing like that, only to whinge that people who did what they were told/paid to do were spreading the virus..which was entirely unpredictable and shocked people to their very core.

parmnion 18-01-2021 05:42 PM

Well we halved the daily deaths today, so boris must have done double good if the deaths are his fault.

Toy Soldier 18-01-2021 05:47 PM

It's Monday, Sunday/Monday rates have always been lower.

UserSince2005 18-01-2021 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10986971)
Our way of counting is bloody ridiculous tbh. I thought it was crappy when it was 28 days after a positive covid test, regardless of actual death. And I recently found out that they switched this to anyone who has a positive test in the previous 60 days! Which will bloody obviously make the numbers shoot up?! Like, if you did this with other illnesses, you could make the likes of norovirus seem deadly (not saying covid is not an issue or anything though, obviously I know its very serious for some people), if we were recording deaths of any kind, 2 months after the infection.

Surely there are better way to do it..just seems so weird and has never really made sense to me at 28 days, let alone 60 :umm2:

Is it right that some countries don't add in carehomes and such?

Regardless though, every time there is a decision to be made, it appears to be the wrong one (the xmas thing was ridiculous, days after saying Starmer was 'trying to steal xmas' :rolleyes: ). I am not surprised our deaths are quite high.

Ontop of this, the whole eat out to help out thing..was stupid. I took advantage of it mind don't get me wrong, but to encourage mixing like that, only to whinge that people who did what they were told/paid to do were spreading the virus..which was entirely unpredictable and shocked people to their very core.

OMG i didnt realised that is how it works!
I was always confused about the 28 day thing.
Of course we have the highest in the world then!
China only recorded a death if it happen on a full moon it would seem.


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