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arista 21-02-2021 11:37 AM

USA : NAZI NEIGHBOR,95 deported to Germany
 
[Nazi concentration camp guard, 95,
is deported back to Germany after
living 60 years in Tennessee
A NAZI who stood guard at a concentration camp
during World War II has been deported back
to Germany after living in Tennessee for over 60 years.
Friedrich Karl Berger, a 95-year-old
German citizen, was deported after
a US immigration judge deemed his
"willing service" as a guard of concentration
camp prisons "constituted assistance
in Nazi-sponsored persecution."]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/141137...ing-tennessee/

The Slim Reaper 21-02-2021 12:46 PM

Isn't this an old story? I thought this happened under trump (unless that was another one - I'll never click on a sun link to find out).

Just another example of cancel culture getting out of hand.

Oliver_W 21-02-2021 12:57 PM

I didn't even think any Nazis were still alive tbh

But anyway, darn ICE dragging people away from their homes and families :fist:

user104658 21-02-2021 01:17 PM

Ehhh I'm in two minds about this really. If he was a Nazi war criminal then yes but a 19 year old guard posted there under orders? And deporting him aged 95? Really what's the point, unless he did something "above and beyond" basic guard duties. Essentially what they're saying is, that a 19 year old basic army grunt should have taken a moral stand against actual SS officers, knowing full well what those men were capable of. It's a bit of a stretch. I can imagine a tonne of today's teens-and-early-20's telling themselves and everyone else, "Well, I wouldn't have done it! I would have taken a stand!!" ... :idc: no you wouldn't you'd have kept your head down and followed orders. I think it's VITALLY IMPORTANT to understand this, in fact.

arista 21-02-2021 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11004528)
Isn't this an old story? I thought this happened under trump (unless that was another one - I'll never click on a sun link to find out).

Just another example of cancel culture getting out of hand.

It went to Court last year


This Link is Dated today

arista 21-02-2021 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11004535)
Ehhh I'm in two minds about this really. If he was a Nazi war criminal then yes but a 19 year old guard posted there under orders? And deporting him aged 95? Really what's the point, unless he did something "above and beyond" basic guard duties. Essentially what they're saying is, that a 19 year old basic army grunt should have taken a moral stand against actual SS officers, knowing full well what those men were capable of. It's a bit of a stretch. I can imagine a tonne of today's teens-and-early-20's telling themselves and everyone else, "Well, I wouldn't have done it! I would have taken a stand!!" ... :idc: no you wouldn't you'd have kept your head down and followed orders. I think it's VITALLY IMPORTANT to understand this, in fact.

Yes he was Young
in WW2
but so many were.


There is a Hunting nazi team
based in USA, they will carry on even to get 98 year olds.

arista 21-02-2021 01:34 PM

[Berger also admitted he guarded prisoners
to prevent their escape and didn't request a transfer
from camp guard service.

Most surprisingly of all, Berger still receives a pension
from the German government, including for his "wartime service."
"I was 19 years old. I was ordered to go there," Berger said.]

The Slim Reaper 21-02-2021 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11004535)
Ehhh I'm in two minds about this really. If he was a Nazi war criminal then yes but a 19 year old guard posted there under orders? And deporting him aged 95? Really what's the point, unless he did something "above and beyond" basic guard duties. Essentially what they're saying is, that a 19 year old basic army grunt should have taken a moral stand against actual SS officers, knowing full well what those men were capable of. It's a bit of a stretch. I can imagine a tonne of today's teens-and-early-20's telling themselves and everyone else, "Well, I wouldn't have done it! I would have taken a stand!!" ... :idc: no you wouldn't you'd have kept your head down and followed orders. I think it's VITALLY IMPORTANT to understand this, in fact.

Anyone working at concentration camps was taking part in war crimes, and "just following orders" was deemed not to be an excuse during Nuremberg. Ordinary army grunts weren't prosecuted for being soldiers

The Slim Reaper 21-02-2021 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11004544)
Yes he was Young
in WW2
but so many were.


There is a Hunting nazi team
based in USA, they will carry on even to get 98 year olds.

Aren't they woke fools? :smug:

Nicky91 21-02-2021 04:00 PM

keep this species in US pls, we in Germany don't need filthy nazi scum anymore

Nicky91 21-02-2021 04:01 PM

he fits better in US with Nazi president Biden

The Slim Reaper 21-02-2021 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11004608)
he fits better in US with Nazi president Biden

:joker:

Tom4784 21-02-2021 04:41 PM

Just following orders is no excuse, really. He should face trial, and if there's evidence that he was under duress, then okay, he was forced into doing something terrible under threat of violence, but there were people who gladly served the regime and did terrible things of their own volition.

It should be determined which side of the coin this man falls on, and the best way to do that is through a trial.

Livia 22-02-2021 11:54 AM

I discussed this with my grandmother this morning. She's roughly the same age as this man, give or take... she lost her whole family in the Holocaust and barely survived it herself. I've spoken with her previously about the horrors she endured and that fact that she lives with the memory of those horrors until this day. The man has had a whole life of freedom while millions died in the most appalling, dehumanising ways. They were starving, freezing, beaten, worked to death.... This man colluded in millions of Nazi murders and then disappeared without facing up to his crimes because he knew he had done wrong. Let him take the stand.

bots 22-02-2021 01:02 PM

I think the law has to be applied, if he is innocent he will go free


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