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thesheriff443 18-03-2021 07:19 AM

Humans should be micro chipped at birth
 
Now before some of you jump in with a knee jerk reaction, please consider the idea!.

We all ready live by many rules that are there to protect us and the world we live in.
Micro chipping people will make the world a better and safer place.
And those that are already alive should also be chipped

Safer streets for women and everyone! If micro chips were used people in danger could be found police would know who was in the streets and if a crime was committed they could check the victims micro chip and see who’s chip was near them.

Any form of travel crossing boarders rights to be in a country driving offences could be checked by a simple scan criminals terrorists would not get away by giving false details

Medical details stored so if you was in an accident these could be checked so you get the right medical treatment

Just a few positive examples of how micro chipping would benefit mankind
Good people have nothing to fear from being chipped

What do you lot think

Scarlett. 18-03-2021 07:34 AM

There would definitely be benefits, but the potential for misuse is far, far to high

thesheriff443 18-03-2021 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarlett. (Post 11019741)
There would definitely be benefits, but the potential for misuse is far, far to high

In what way? The world is not a free world already you can’t go we’re you please and we already have to prove produce proof of who we
Are and what we will be doing.

Cherie 18-03-2021 07:54 AM

I can see positives, but then again if someone wanted to 'disappear' that wouldn't really be possible, what about witness protection programmes how would they work without the chip being removed and another embedded.....under cover police work...there are probably other areas as well where a person would want anonymity...

user104658 18-03-2021 07:56 AM

I'm against it for general philosophical reasons but without going into that, the glaring practical problem:

Law-abiding people would be more likely to leave their chip alone and allow themselves to be tracked. People with nefarious intent (career criminals, terrorists, serial killers) would quickly find a way to remove or deactivate their chip.

Ammi 18-03-2021 08:02 AM

...people would find a way of detecting where others are in the same way that people could hack PIN numbers of credit cards etc...so it would create a knowledge of knowing the location of someone ...maybe someone who would want to harm a child for instance, would know that child’s location at any given time...?...it would also enable patterns of when it home and not at home to be tracked as well for empty properties...?...it feels a bit like a criminal activity ideal, type thing...

Alf 18-03-2021 08:13 AM

This thread is sponsored by George Orwell

joeysteele 18-03-2021 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11019750)
...people would find a way of detecting where others are in the same way that people could hack PIN numbers of credit cards etc...so it would create a knowledge of knowing the location of someone ...maybe someone who would want to harm a child for instance, would know that child’s location at any given time...?...it would also enable patterns of when it home and not at home to be tracked as well for empty properties...?...it feels a bit like a criminal activity ideal, type thing...


This, I agree with.

On paper it seems a fair idea, however I think it could open up far more problems than ease any.

Ammi 18-03-2021 08:24 AM

...I mean, humans are ‘microchipped’ aren’t they...they have tags fitted after a crime has been committed but before a crime is committed, how would it be known who to monitor because that’s talking about tracking thought activity...?...it would be impossible to monitor the entire world population, the workforce to implement that wouldn’t be feasible...and animals are microchipped for research reasons as well, to study activity etc...but it doesn’t prevent anything, it just tracks...

Crimson Dynamo 18-03-2021 08:36 AM

yesterday they announced that druggies and career crims will be tagged going forward to reduce crime

I say we should at least try it and see if it helps

Josy 18-03-2021 08:43 AM

I'm against it completely, it would totally violate any rights we have left to choose our own levels of privacy, that's a basic human right. We already have cctv everywhere, the the electoral roll, cards, smart devices and so on that track plenty of info like where we live, location, shopping and eating habit, daily purchases and so on thats more than enough imo.

Criminals and vulnerable people like the elderly with dementia are already able to be tagged with devices so certain organisations like the police or health care system know how to find them if needed.

Microchipping humans and giving some large organisations total control over people is not a world I would want to be living in.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11019753)
This thread is sponsored by George Orwell

:joker:

First thing I thought of when I read the thread.

user104658 18-03-2021 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11019761)
yesterday they announced that druggies and career crims will be tagged going forward to reduce crime

I say we should at least try it and see if it helps

Bit misleading, really this is just swapping out curfew ankle tags for ones with geolocation and will mainly be people who would have been on a tag anyway, and also it's while out of prison on probation... which makes me think these will actually be used to reduce physical imprisonment sentences ("Yeah you can go home but you have to wear this tag until your sentence would be up") more than anything else. So basically a form of "electronic prison" rather than actually being in a cell (which is expensive).

tl;dr it's to reduce prison numbers and save money. People will be whinging about "even softer sentencing" in no time.

Josy 18-03-2021 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11019761)
yesterday they announced that druggies and career crims will be tagged going forward to reduce crime

I say we should at least try it and see if it helps

Tagging with a device is completely different to a microchip

Josy 18-03-2021 08:57 AM

John Carpenter and Roddy Pipers mullet warned us about this kind of future in that weird movie from the 80s :joker:

(I can't remember the title atm)

Crimson Dynamo 18-03-2021 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 11019767)
Tagging with a device is completely different to a microchip

i know but the idea is to keep tabs on crims 24/7

So to start with if you commit say 2 burglaries then you get microchipped and gps tagged with a team monitoring you 24/7 for 10 years.

Alf 18-03-2021 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 11019774)
John Carpenter and Roddy Pipers mullet warned us about this kind of future in that weird movie from the 80s :joker:

(I can't remember the title atm)

They Live?

Niamh. 18-03-2021 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11019753)
This thread is sponsored by George Orwell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 11019764)
I'm against it completely, it would totally violate any rights we have left to choose our own levels of privacy, that's a basic human right. We already have cctv everywhere, the the electoral roll, cards, smart devices and so on that track plenty of info like where we live, location, shopping and eating habit, daily purchases and so on thats more than enough imo.

Criminals and vulnerable people like the elderly with dementia are already able to be tagged with devices so certain organisations like the police or health care system know how to find them if needed.

Microchipping humans and giving some large organisations total control over people is not a world I would want to be living in.
:joker:

First thing I thought of when I read the thread.

This and That ^^

Josy 18-03-2021 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11019775)
i know but the idea is to keep tabs on crims 24/7



So to start with if you commit say 2 burglaries then you get microchipped and gps tagged with a team monitoring you 24/7 for 10 years.

That can be done with a standard tag though, I don't see the need for a chip

Josy 18-03-2021 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11019776)
They Live?

That's the one

arista 18-03-2021 09:42 AM

Yes I made threads on this
year ago.

It makes sense


Its within my Tribal War Thread
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...t=82498&page=6

bots 18-03-2021 10:45 AM

it would be easier just to put everyone on a leash and be done with it

thesheriff443 18-03-2021 11:07 AM

Every time you use the internet you are being tracked

Criminals could be tracked all the time but law abiding people would only be tracked if they went missing.

thesheriff443 18-03-2021 11:09 AM

If you carry a smart phone you are being tracked even if you delete your private messages they can still be read.

Cherie 18-03-2021 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11019852)
If you carry a smart phone you are being tracked even if you delete your private messages they can still be read.

That is not quite the same as having something in your body though is it :shrug:

thesheriff443 18-03-2021 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11019853)
That is not quite the same as having something in your body though is it :shrug:

It’s there to make life better and safer it’s not like you can wonder around without leaving any trace of were you have been


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