Possible Porn Education for 14 to 16 olds Education
 

Yes, but it shouldn't be called porn education.

There's so many things WRONG with that title "Porn & children", should NEVER be put together EVER .

But there has to be a broader spectrum on sex education and lessons , when i was at school everything was described so basic and mechanical .

Everyone gets taught birth control and the medical aspect of sex and how the male and female body works . But there was never any important discussions about the emotional side or the consent side to it all ,which should have been a vital part.

Here's a wild, crazy, out-there idea:

How about ALL porn should cut out the violence, abuse and make it clear that true, comfortable, informed consent is vital and if sites don't do that, they get shut down entirely. We don't need "special porn that promotes consent" that's just aimed at young people FFS it should be a requirement if it's going to be made AT ALL.

Yes
thats what the panel said.

They need a video of 16 year olds
having sex.

Violence? in an ideal world, but some people have violence porn as a fetish, but it's still consenting.

Oh god, you didn't just say that?

That's rape to start with.

No they don’t

Arista's middle name is "glitter"

Bull**** is it, 99.9% of it is "a grey area" of consent at best and most of the women who make these videos are already in a bad psychological state, and victims of historic abuse, BEFORE they get into the industry, and come out even worse. The reports from indistry insiders, ex-"performers" and the data is staggering and shameful and frankly anyone who gets their rocks off watching women being abused, and are going to start complaining that they can't get choking porn any more, can **** right off permanently. "Sex work liberal feminism" is misogyny in a frilly hat.

FFS arista even for you this is next level. :facepalm:

Kids are watching Porn on their phones
How would you do this new Education plan TS?

It's not bull****.

Maybe you're just close minded?

Hence there being a submissive and dominant partner etc.

whips, chains, tying up etc. It can be a fetish to be controlled and dominated during sex.

I'm not saying all and you're looking at it from a professional sex worker position

Yes Bad example
Gary Glitter former pop star, now Paedophile.



No one wants to be in his Gang.

Yes, but not of 14 and 15 year old children.

Yes but this is for Education
not a posted illegal DVD

well it's illegal for a start.

If you were even going to do this you would at least show them consenting adults and even then I would never advocate it at that age.

You can educate and show them dummy sex, manequins or something.... but showing 14/15 year old porn in itself would be considered grooming.. it's just not acceptable.

There are boundaries that can't be crossed and the person delivering the education needs to be suitably qualified too, unless it's a parent advising their children.

If children have the understanding around safety and precautions then they will discover their own bodies/sex when the time is right.

We just have to equip them with some knowledge and skill, but it certainly doesn't involve showing them porn.

That would be a Laughing session

You could say all of it would be at age depending on maturity.

One important skill to learn is how to put a condom/femidon on... using a banana or plastic prop.

Yes, but this is plan to teach beyond the basic level

"Oh god, you didn't just say that?

That's rape to start with."


No its Consensual Sex , Thomas

Which is legal for 16 year olds in the UK

Yes, 16, you said 14-16 year old having sex.

14 and 15 is illegal.

That's literally what sex education was when i was a kid, it's lazy when you think about it . As they didn't teach the important stuff like consent and the emotional side, look how high teenage pregnancies are but there wasn't an in depth discussions about support or help if you get pregnant or even if you catch an STI , and the relationship side to things and taking precautions etc.

I don't know if it's because schools and teachers thought the subjects were too heavy or serious or whether they just were not qualified enough to deal with these matters , but it always felt very basic and rushed to me .

Wasn't it Amber Rudd's daughter who tweeted it out and deleted it?

…yeah, so far as the media are reporting, it was Flora Gill…Amber Rudd’s daughter…

OK make it 16 year olds
performing Consensual Sex
for School Education.

"Violent porn" doesn't refer to sub/dom, it refers to slapping/choking/spitting/gagging, 99% male-on-female, 99% consent "grey area", 99% male viewership, 100% toxic.

Yes it was.

Slapping, choking, spitting, gagging I would consider to be quite normal during sex tbh.

I am not into any of that, but I would imagine a lot of people are and would be turned on by it.

That would actually be quite tame even. If you are happy with that then so be it.

As an adult if you told me that i barely consented to that when both partners were happy to do so then I would be outraged.

But I think we're talking about different things, different audiences and an industry where some probably don't have a choice because they can't afford not to.

No choking in Education Videos
they could go wrong.

Absolutely

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Normalized not "normal", and men are into it and turned on by it, request it, etc, and because it's normalized many women mistakenly believe that it's a reasonable request, and comply with it because they believe this, despite the fact that they don't personally enjoy it.

And it's getting worse with younger people and teens.

Because of porn, normalising it.

But so long as the lads are getting their jollies eh, best not kink-shame them, the ladies are "willing to please" after all. Prudish to try to stop them. They like it! Honest!

Well, I am sure some women do like it and some don't.


Just like some men do and some don't. I won't blanket statement which your post seems to have done.

Exactly both MEN & WOMEN talk about kinks they're into which would be considered weird ie candle wax, choking , slapping, whipping etc etc

EDIT
I don't understand how the conversation turned into 'violent kinks' but there we go

I'm not making it up off the top of my head, this is a well studied area and an emerging consent nightmare in teens. Girls "consent" to violent, uncomfortable, painful, and often dangerous sex acts because, thanks to porn, it's normalised and considered "prudish" not to engage. The percentage of women who actually enjoy it is minuscule compared to the number of men asking for it. You can continue to ignore the facts if you want - god knows, the vast majority of people seem to want to - but that is sadly the situation.

That is what the WHOLE THREAD is about; the original controversial tweet that was deleted was suggesting that there should be "good" porn aimed at young teenagers that highlights proper consent and people just having actual sex, to counter the mountains of violent pornography that young men are exposed to and (in turn) expect from their girlfriends.

Well what I am saying is that what you have described just sound like fetishes to me which are enjoyed by many.

I am sure women ask for it too.

I am not doubting that there are women who feel they must oblige and do things for the pleasure of their partner.... Porn can be dangerous in that a lot of it are actors and it's not always the reality of sex. They get paid, they're actors.

I am just pointing out that A) - A lot do enjoy it and B) It's not just women that 'violence', if that's how it is deemed to the individual, doesn't just happen to women... although I would agree, the data probably suggests it's much higher with women.

Vunerability having a lot to answer for and sex workers who have no choice.

I don't know what to say other than that the scale of the problem is much, much bigger than you realise and that teenage girls being peer pressured into violent or painful sex acts is happening, daily, to thousands of girls, up and down the country, largely thanks to violent pornography. This isn't a theory it's a fact. And no it's not "both men and women" that's just MRA crap; there may be a SMALL proportion of males affected and there may be a SMALL proportion of girls who actually genuinely enjoy these acts but that's not really the point.

It's normalization of male-on-female sexual violence with questionable levels of consent, for the benefit of males. Full stop. And people are full - FULL - of excuses for it.

They should be told that PORN is NOT reality! and it shouldn't be used as a way of showing "proper consent" , as mentioned in this thread those are PAID models who usually have safe words and they're literally doing it because it's a fetish and they're being paid.

And anyone bullying their partner to do everything they've watched in porn, is clearly abusive and toxic.