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Denver 25-10-2021 12:29 PM

National Minimum Wage to rise by 59p to £9.50 per hour
 
Rishi Sunak is expected to announce a massive rise in the minimum wage in the budget which will leave them on course to fulfill the £10ph remixed by next election.

It is also expected that the wage increase of 6m6% is more then double of the expected increase of living

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...s-59038076.amp

arista 25-10-2021 12:37 PM

Yes, for all 23 and over.
And from April 2022

Labour asked why he could not go to £10?

Was debated on Politics Live BBC2HD

hijaxers 25-10-2021 05:09 PM

Wow what a massive rise :joker::joker::joker: It's not even remotely funny.

arista 25-10-2021 05:14 PM

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ay-Budget.html

user104658 25-10-2021 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 11106867)
Wow what a massive rise :joker::joker::joker: It's not even remotely funny.


What they also don’t mention is that for families on minimum wage, most of it will come straight out of their Universal Credit/Working Tax Credit anyway. The real-terms monthly increase is like £25. But that’s the ol’ benefits trap in action.

Alf 25-10-2021 05:34 PM

Do people who work in London and down South also earn that minimum wage? I thought things were dearer darn Sarth? How do the manage on £9 an hour?

I'm on £11.80 ph hour, which is fairly decent for an unskilled person in Hull.

user104658 25-10-2021 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11106871)
Do people who work in London and down South also earn that minimum wage? I thought things were dearer darn Sarth? How do the manage on £9 an hour?

I'm on £11.80 ph hour, which is fairly decent for an unskilled person in Hull.


Most companies have a “London premium” where they pay a couple of £ more per hour in London. To be honest I doubt it comes anywhere close to covering the extra housing/commuting costs of living in London though.

arista 26-10-2021 01:01 PM

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Cherie 26-10-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 11106867)
Wow what a massive rise :joker::joker::joker: It's not even remotely funny.

it equate to about 1,000 a year so it all adds up and is targeted more at the younger generation

user104658 26-10-2021 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11107072)
it equate to about 1,000 a year so it all adds up and is targeted more at the younger generation

Again, £1000 a year for those without families. Families on minimum wage incomes will be receiving Universal Credit which will taper off with any income rise... they'll be lucky to find themselves £30/month better off. So in real terms - once you factor in the rising cost of food and the soaring cost of energy - significantly worse off in April 2022 than they were in April 2021.

Like I said I don't really know what the answer to that is; the benefits trap is awful, and I can say that having experienced wriggling all the way out of it (from being fully reliant when we first left University expecting our first, to being totally out from under it after several years). It is EXTREMELY disheartening to be given more hours, then promotions, then dual income etc. only to have most of the increased income balanced right back out by tax credit cuts. I remember our first major income increase "post benefits" and what an amazing feeling it was to be able to say "I'm earning £300 more next month and I actually get to be £300 better off!"

Anyway I'm off on a bit of a tangent there. I guess what I'm saying is, the government announce these things to try to convince the public that people will be better off... but they won't. Things are only going to get harder for those on low income.

arista 26-10-2021 10:28 PM

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arista 26-10-2021 10:29 PM

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arista 26-10-2021 10:30 PM

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bots 27-10-2021 05:05 AM

pub owners are saying the pay increase is going to put 30 pence on the price of a pint of beer. Kind of hard to believe on a wage increase of 59 pence an hour

arista 27-10-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11107227)
pub owners are saying the pay increase is going to put 30 pence on the price of a pint of beer. Kind of hard to believe on a wage increase of 59 pence an hour


Yes Typical

user104658 27-10-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11107227)
pub owners are saying the pay increase is going to put 30 pence on the price of a pint of beer. Kind of hard to believe on a wage increase of 59 pence an hour

That is indeed some questionable maths right there. 30p on the pint to cover 60p an hour per staff member so ... each member of bar staff is serving 2 pints an hour? :joker:.

user104658 27-10-2021 09:55 AM

They're looking at another NHS pay bump so can't complain about that.

arista 27-10-2021 10:18 AM

Typical of Bloated BBC

BBC2HD
and BBCnewsHD


Both Streaming the Same show
Politics Live

arista 27-10-2021 04:11 PM

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arista 28-10-2021 12:32 AM

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arista 28-10-2021 12:33 AM

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arista 28-10-2021 12:34 AM

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arista 28-10-2021 12:36 AM

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Oliver_W 28-10-2021 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11106869)
What they also don’t mention is that for families on minimum wage, most of it will come straight out of their Universal Credit/Working Tax Credit anyway. The real-terms monthly increase is like £25. But that’s the ol’ benefits trap in action.

How does that work?

Last time I had anything to do with benefits, it was something like... For every £1 you earn, they knock off 60p?

user104658 28-10-2021 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11107539)
How does that work?

Last time I had anything to do with benefits, it was something like... For every £1 you earn, they knock off 60p?

63p in the pound. Basically if you get a £400/month after tax pay rise (this did happen with me at one point about 8 years back; a promotion coupled with an hours increase) you actually end up only £150 a month better off. Obviously I understand the reasoning but it is massively disheartening. We're lucky enough to be in a substantially better financial position now and it does make all the difference in terms of workplace motivation, when promotions and raises have an actual observable effect on your day-to-day finances. Disposable income is just simply a better motivator.

It's always been a trap of the system though and it's why minimum wage should be a proper living wage in the first place ... families with parents working full time (doing ANYTHING) should not have to be reliant on top-up benefits just to make ends meet. It's a sign of a totally broken capitalist system. Benefits should only be needed when people aren't in work, or can't work due to disability/caring responsibility. People shouldn't be putting in 40 hour weeks and still needing rent assistance. It's a mess.


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