cig ban
 

IT can be a drag to be shut in the BB house with only a wannabe celebrity to while away the hours with.

But yesterday, as England woke up to the smoking ban, it was business as usual for contestants such as Nicky and Charley.

They got their own taste of the clampdown on lighting up indoors, as they were barred from having a fag up in the house when the series began on May 30.

Instead, they were given an outdoor smoking area, complete with bench.

But even those with a hazy recollection will know smoking has been a major way to pass the time for many Big Bro contestants over the years.

Here we recall contestants who turned BB into CIG Brother

I think all smoking should be banned from BB. A lot of young people watch the show and it is a bad example for them to think killer smoking is a cool thing to do.....

Only none smokers should be considered for the show......

Yeah, only non smokers should apply. In fact, anyone who has ever said a swear word shouldn't be allowed on the show, sets a bad example for kiddies as well. And anyone who has ever had sex, we can't be letting the children think that casual sex is cool. And anyone who has ever drank alcohol should be banned, we can't be having those poor children watching BB think that alcohol is cool.

How are BB letting these evil people on the show???!!! Won't someone please think of the children???

I suppose they might as well ban sarcasm as well. After all it is the lowest form of wit.......

Yes, you're right. In fact, lets just ban BB altogether. You never know, some day at some time some person just might do something in BB which the poor little children might think is cool and they'll all be in the playground the next day copying it.

In fact ban all TV, those poor children being corrupted.

(Good to see the Mary Whitehouse spirit is still alive and well today, eh?)

I look forward to your wishes being granted........:flowers:

Woohoo, here comes our own Orwellian nightmare! Ban everything, just in case the kiddies see it. No, never mind the rights of adults or that these so easily influenced young people will have seen smoking in many, many places other than on BB, just ban everything to be safe. :thumbs:

Guessing your attitude to smokers, I'm sure you will be pleased to hear about this;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6252016.stm

Good on them, I say! (although they have no chance at all of success, but at least they're trying!)

It may surprise you to know I support such a challenge.

There is no need for a total ban as this will only result in none smokers at home suffering the effects of passive smoking from frustrated smokers.

The type of ban I am refering to in the BB house is the promotion of smoking not the banning of it.

To promote a killer habit to the young is irresponsible and should be avoided.

You mention Mary Whitehouse...Believe me I am a million miles away from that sort of thinking..

Several years ago I participated in the broadcasting code consultation doing my bit to try and minimise the draconian censorship of our society.......If you think you understand me, mate you could not be more wrong....

please can someone give me a karma for this i cant beleive im in the - i dont think that my threads are that bad sorry for being cheeky but people seem to like this thread xxxxxxxxx

Considering thats at least the third time you've posted begging for karma, I would give you minus except my karma powers were exposed to karma-kryptonite and I have been rendered powerless. Just make nice posts and eventually your karma will grow and grow!

And for banarama, I'm still not sure how banning smokers from BB is in keeping with your non-censorship principles but using children and young people to restrict the freedom of adults is the rallying cry of the Mary Whitehouse brigade which explains my initial skepticism. However, any work you've done to reduce the amount of censorship we are forced to endure should be applauded. :thumbs:

And that wasn't scarcastic! :shocked: :tongue:

Yes lets ban those evil cigarettes. After all , parents are not as agile as they used to be , and its a long shot that they will be able to switch channels when their kids are watching BB. That would be near impossible.

Kids are very impressionable you know :rolleyes:.



Yes it is [sarcasm].


*for the record I smoke [you only live once , and I aspire to do it as Steve McQueen like as possible] , and take great pleasure in watching people throw strops over it , who coincidently , are the people who dont smoke [but probably dont throw strops for something they enjoy].

What about alcohol, which is far more dangerous than smoking? Or flip flops? Maybe green jumpers, or beards & moustaches?

Yeah, and ban fat people too. Innocent kids could be watching and think it's cool and then go and become fat by not doing any exercise and playing on games consoles all day...

And I've never liked green jumpers either, ban the b******s!! :tongue:

Despite the note in your sig, green jumper aversion = +1 karma in my book. :bigsmile:

I say ban scousers :joker:

That way, there may be a house left unstolen at the end :joker:

Good job there aren't any Scousers in the house right now then, huh? They had a Dutch guy lined up too, but apparently his constant spontaneous diving was considered too dangerous for the other hm's. We did have a cod-psychologist though, but he's just walked ...

The kitchen should be unobserved by cameras in fairness , because I hear kids love nothing more than playing Dante with mommys breadknifes.

I agree.

Smoking is a generally pointless habit which effects others as well as smokers. I think the general appeal of smoking, to young people, (apart from peer pressure) is the image aspect of it, they may see it on TV and wish to incorporate the style of their favourite actor or celebrity personality into their own style...e.g...

....but young people don't always contemplate the long term risks of the habit or the negative effect it has on their immediate health.

I think glamorising such habits is hard to avoid on general television, but the fact that Big Brother can curb the problem, like bananarama suggests, is something worth strong consideration. There are many types of people who arn't 'eligible' for Big Brother shows, so it's not as if any principles of 'reality' are being broken.

Its not exactly a bad habit , thats a matter of opinion , but the media generally shapes it that way.

As for your comment that it is pointless , you could claim that driving is pointless , alas more people die in car accidents than do lung cancer brought on from smoking each year.

What about my point that parents can simply switch the TV channel over?

You must also ask yourself , are kids really that influential and stupid?

My opinion would be a resounding yes, it is bad, and if it was based on health issues, there wouldn't even be any room for opinion.

The answer's yes, many of them are. It's a young person's nature to be easily influenced (if that's what you meant by 'influential').

Again cant parents change the channel? What about my other points that went unanswered? Not allowing smokers into the Big brother house is too close to the original Orwellian concept for my liking. In fact is borderline insane.

Its a perfectly normal habit thats been blown out of proportion by the media. And not allowing smokers in the house is an act that is never going to come to fruition as only a disgruntled group of non smokers dont want them their because they see smoking as nasty and wont let it rest at that.

Alcohol causes more social problems than nicotine and metamphetamine rolled in to one. Can that be allowed in to the house? is it because you may drink that it is fine in your eyes?

What about Nikki last year - she was potentially a walking advertisment for young girls everywhere to throw dinners under their tables. Just like channele this year.

How about the ENTIRE FORMAT OF THE SHOW as a whole being an advertisement for staying in and not getting any exercise.

Heck , lets keep those gays from going in! We cant be teaching young boys stuff like that!!!

Of course they can, but that argument could be used for any issue, big or small, it doesnt concern me.

When the issue in question is the act of smoking (i.e. Steve McQueen), eliminating this act from a TV show can have considerable positive effects, seeing as the act itself is what can be appealing to young people. The act of drinking is different; it's an essential part of life.

I'm sure others may want to address them.

When I came to the conclusion that banning smoking from the BB house is the right thing to do it did not come easy to me to join the banning brigade on this issue. Under normal circumstances I am strongly anti ban and anti censorship. What i think of Government rigged organiasations like ofcom would desire a level of language not suitable for this forum.

With regard to my opinion on banning smoking in the BB house. My sentiment is not about banning people from smoking per say but banning the promotion of a killer habbit to the young.

BB is watched by young people and young adults anxious to show off how grown up they are. These people of all are vulnerable to the influence of contestants in the BB house.

Seeing characters they love indulging in a killer habit is like promoting smoking to the young. In spit of my general anti banning sentiments I still feel a ban in the BB house in view of the influence on youngsters is fully justified.

You may not agree with my reasoning but that is how I genuinly feel on this issue.

If like me you are anti banning of this that and the other then I can understand your annoyance at reading a post suggesting the opposite to what you believe in. However what annoyed me with your response was not the fact you did not agree but the sarcastic nature of the reply.

I would have hoped for a debate rather than an insult.....

I would like to draw a line in the sand between you and I as perhaps we misunderstood each other at different levels.
As far as I am concerned no ill feelings held. Regards. bananarama. :thumbs:

bananarama - i agree

So drinking is simply different because it is a 'Part of life'??? Thats a completely ludicrous statement that ignores any sort of facts whatsoever.

Their are MANY dangerous things on TV , and its all a part of life. Its up to the parents to sit down and tell their kids the dangers of smoking. You could ban car ads , because driving is dangerous right? Why not ban , as I mentioned , housemates being shown cooking with knives in the big brother house???

You , like banannarama , seem to be sticking to the smoking and ignoring any other points about other dangers in your arguments which lead me to believe you two are merely against people smoking and nohting more.

Its all a part of TV , and I think Charley or Tracey sparking up is MORE than compensated by the huge number of bans , ads on TV , and generall scrutiny thats pointed at smoking.