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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 11196340)

After seeing people cry woke over the GTA 6 news (GTA could never be woke since you can go around shooting and beat up people) just feels anything these days is called woke when it's really not. People have issues with POC and LGBT getting TV/Film roles and it's called woke because the cast isn't all white.

Personally I hate terms like woke & PC as they do get overused imo.

And when it comes to GTA VI, personally I don't care what the lead is as long as the character is well written, my biggest issue with GTA VI is the report about the Game being more dry on the humour front, because to me the satire in GTA franchise makes it standout from say the Mafia franchise for example.

And when it comes to TV, again I have no issue with non-white Actors getting roles in Shows, for me personally though I do wish that TV Writers/Producers wouldn't just cast people because of one attribute though.

My most obvious five I'm gonna use at the moment as I'm currently watching them are these five characters.

Rountree (NCIS: LA) It's taken nearly two Seasons just to know what one of his personal interests are, and I don't blame the Actor I blame the writers who had no vision for the character other than the fact that they wanted a young black Actor in the programme, and that's all it was imo.

Rajan (CSI: Vegas) Apart from her ship with Folsom, she has minimal involvement in the Show in other areas imo, and again I think that was because the Show didn't think past wanting an English character in the programme, which is a problem because it leaves a hollow character in the Show just because she's English.

Folsom (CSI: Vegas) Anyone watching the return of CSI: Vegas will laugh at me because he is a young white American character, but ironically he is a token because he is the only one of that type in the programme, and again the writers don't really know what to do with him (again away from the ship with Rajan) and it shows that imo the writers had only thought of the aesthetic side of things rather than creating a brilliant character.

And then the last two I've had to check their names out on IMDB because they're so under the radar.

Raines & Vo (FBI: International)

Basically yes some people do overuse the term woke, but characters like Rountree or the two from FBI: International aren't helping matters imo as they are getting more commonly made than say the iconic Benjamin Sisko from the Star Trek franchise.

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11196355)

It doesn’t even mean anything at this point, people who attack ‘woke’ are just people that lack any form of common decency and/or respect and find those that try to treat people with said decency and respect, intolerable, the ‘anti-woke’ brigade are nothing more than ignorant people intent on waging war on decency.

Nobody who’s ‘anti-woke’ will ever be able to tell you what woke really means or what it does and if they attempt to, you’ll get different answers from most of them.

It’s a made up boogeymen for people to justify their own bigotry and lack of empathy and compassion for other humans

My take on woke culture personally (maybe my definition is off here) is someone that's so far left that no sane person would want to interact with them.

That's my perception of what woke means to me, but I know what you mean, there are some people out there that think that black people being treated equally to white people is woke, which is just crazy in this day and age.

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11196361)

i hate it

words like ''woke'' and ''cancel culture''

as if being against racism is a bad thing

Cancel culture is a real issue in society imo.

It's a much bigger issue than someone being "woke" imo as peoples lives can be ruined by cancel culture, it's a disease that nobody is willing to fight back against.

Coincidentally, i remember running around with CJ hitting people with a double ended dildo. Those were the days.

Ahh sh1t, here we go again.

Now there is the SUPER WOKE

Non-binary transgender social justice warrior and author is CANCELLED by woke internet
mob and labeled a 'war criminal' after her job at defense giant Lockheed Martin was
exposed

Author and trans activist Ana Mardoll, whose books have sold thousands of copies, was exposed as having worked at defense contractor Lockheed Martin
Mardoll addressed the controversy saying that as a disabled person, Lockheed provided her with healthcare despite only working part-time
As a result, Mardoll was subjected to a slew of abusive messages on Twitter, resulting in her deleting her account
The person who doxxed Mardoll did so through a burner Twitter account that was set up for that purpose

A disabled trans activist and author was canceled by a super woke mob after
their job at defense contractor Lockheed Martin was revealed by a Twitter
user.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ernet-mob.html

media buzzword to get the right wing triggered

i dont really hear people use this phrasing anymore

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 11196685)

i dont really hear people use this phrasing anymore

how nice

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 11196685)

i dont really hear people use this phrasing anymore

You should post more on here, every 2nd post seems to includes it :laugh:

Apparently GTA is being called "woke" because they removed some trans NPCs after people chimped out.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...1&d=1659358795

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11196704)

Apparently GTA is being called "woke" because they removed some trans NPCs after people chimped out.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...1&d=1659358795

Isn't removing trans NPC's the opposite of woke?

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11196688)

You should post more on here, every 2nd post seems to includes it :laugh:

Stop being woke.

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11196718)

Stop being woke.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/yxHzB...01Xoda/200.gif

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

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is an English adjective meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination" that originated in African-American Vernacular English (AAVE). Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism, and has also been used as shorthand for American Left ideas involving identity politics and social justice, such as the notion of white privilege and slavery reparations for African Americans.

The phrase stay woke had emerged in AAVE by the 1930s, in some contexts referring to an awareness of the social and political issues affecting African Americans. The phrase was uttered in a recording by Lead Belly and later by Erykah Badu. Following the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri in 2014, the phrase was popularised by Black Lives Matter (BLM) activists seeking to raise awareness about police shootings of African Americans. After seeing use on Black Twitter, the term woke became an Internet meme and was increasingly used by white people, often to signal their support for BLM, which some commentators have criticised as cultural appropriation. Mainly associated with the millennial generation, the term spread internationally and was added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2017.

The terms woke capitalism and woke-washing were coined to describe companies who signal support for progressive causes as a substitute for genuine reform. By 2020, parts of the political center and right wing in several Western countries were using the term woke, often in an ironic way, as an insult for various progressive or leftist movements and ideologies perceived as overzealous, performative, or insincere. In turn, some commentators came to consider it an offensive term with negative associations to those who promote political ideas involving identity and race. By 2021, woke had become used almost exclusively as a pejorative, with most prominent usages of the word taking place in a disparaging context

Among American conservatives, woke has come to be used primarily as an insult.[1][4][46] In this pejorative sense, woke means "following an intolerant and moralising ideology".[19] British journalist Steven Poole comments that the term is used to mock "overrighteous liberalism".[47] Romano says that on the American right, "'woke' – like its cousin 'canceled' – bespeaks 'political correctness' gone awry".[4]

Opponents of progressive social movements often use the term mockingly or sarcastically,[4][48] implying that "wokeness" is an insincere form of performative activism.[46][4] Such critics often believe that movements such as Black Lives Matter exaggerate the extent of social problems.[48] Linguist and social critic John McWhorter argues that the history of woke is similar to that of politically correct, another term once used self-descriptively by the left which was appropriated by the right as an insult, in a process similar to the euphemism treadmill.[2]

Members of the Republican Party in the U.S. have been increasingly using the term to criticize members of the Democratic Party, while more centrist Democrats use it against more left-leaning members of their own party; such critics accuse those on their left of using cancel culture to damage the employment prospects of those who are not considered sufficiently "woke".[1]

FiveThirtyEight writer Perry Bacon Jr. suggests that this "anti-woke posture" is connected to a long-standing promotion of backlash politics by the Republican Party, wherein it promotes white and conservative fear in response to activism by African Americans as well as changing cultural norms.[49][1]

By 2021, woke had become used almost exclusively as a pejorative,[better source needed] with most prominent usages of the word taking place in a disparaging context.[1] The term woke, along with other terms such as cancel culture and critical race theory,[50] became a large part of Republican Party electoral strategy. Former President Donald Trump stated in 2021 that the Biden administration is "destroying" the country "with woke", and Republican Missouri senator Josh Hawley used the term to promote his upcoming book by saying the "woke mob" was trying to suppress it

Scholars Michael B. McCormack and Althea Legal-Miller argue that the phrase stay woke echoes Martin Luther King, Jr.'s exhortation "to stay awake, to adjust to new ideas, to remain vigilant and to face the challenge of change"

meaning of the word ''Woke'' on wikipedia

consider myself woke then, and i am not ashamed of that at all, why should i, when its not a bad thing

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11196723)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

meaning of the word ''Woke'' on wikipedia

consider myself woke then, and i am not ashamed of that at all, why should i, when its not a bad thing

"a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism"

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11196704)

Apparently GTA is being called "woke" because they removed some trans NPCs after people chimped out.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...1&d=1659358795

Was it the same people that let their kids play the game but take issue with drag queens reading books to them?

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11196716)

Isn't removing trans NPC's the opposite of woke?

I think the issue was the transwomen were ~~accurately~~ mockingly portrayed, instead of looking like women.

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11196729)

Was it the same people that let their kids play the game but take issue with drag queens reading books to them?

Were you not one of the many saying video games dont have any effect on kids regarding violence etc

lol

(real life isnt a kids game)

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 11196685)

i dont really hear people use this phrasing anymore

Oh people still use the word.

In my Internet circles it's just as commonly used as racist is.

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11196729)

Was it the same people that let their kids play the game but take issue with drag queens reading books to them?

Nah it was people that some might call "woke" who were complaining because it's not a flattering portrayal?

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11196769)

Oh people still use the word.

In my Internet circles it's just as commonly used as racist is.

Yeah "racist" is as common as "woke" nowadays. Here's a good example of "racist" being over used or just plain incorrect - This guy i sometimes watch on twitch kept hitting lampposts/light poles when playing GTA, he said "i hate poles". Of course, almost immediately in chat were like "why do you hate poles, could be seen as racist you know". I can't remember the exact wording, but it was along those lines. I mean can a white British person be racist towards a Polish person? What even is the white to black ratio in Poles, like 1 in a Million. I dunno, he didn't even mean Polish people, but again it's people nowadays on their high horse ever ready to point the finger and brand!

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11196804)

That's an example of the guy's audience not following the context of what he was saying imo.

That ironically does happen a lot in false racism claims.

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11196765)

Were you not one of the many saying video games dont have any effect on kids regarding violence etc

lol

(real life isnt a kids game)

No? I find it concerning you think it's an appropriate game for children.