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Niamh. 17-08-2022 10:35 AM

Trainwreck - Woodstock 1999
 
Anyone watch this on Netflix? It's a three episode Documentary about Woodstock 1999 with the original 1969 promoter/organiser, trying to create a similar vibe as the original and failing miserably, it's crazy what went on there, can't believe I never even knew about all that went on there considering I was 21 back then and it had a lot of my favourite bands playing. Pre-Social media I guess :shrug:


LeatherTrumpet 17-08-2022 10:49 AM

i heard about this on the radio this morning so will now watch

Niamh. 17-08-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11202673)
i heard about this on the radio this morning so will now watch

Let me know your thoughts :thumbs:

LeatherTrumpet 17-08-2022 10:57 AM


Cherie 17-08-2022 12:57 PM

will give it a watch, seem to remember hearing about this at the time

UserSince2005 17-08-2022 01:05 PM

We left on day 2 because it was too hot.

Niamh. 17-08-2022 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11202677)

Is that a different one?

MTVN 17-08-2022 05:17 PM

Yeah that's a different doc ^

Seen the first ep and a bit of this and it is really interesting. In many ways seems like a predictable disaster with the choice of location and the flagrant profiteering which basically went against all the original values. Charging 4 dollars for a bottle of water is disgraceful and this is nearly 25 years ago. Other things were a bit out of the organisers control like stupidly hot weather and the actions of some of the festival goers which were pretty disgusting

LeatherTrumpet 17-08-2022 07:16 PM


MTVN 17-08-2022 08:39 PM

I watched it all this evening, pretty fascinating and disturbing. What an absolute ****show it was. I wonder if it would have been worse or better in the social media era, whether all the real time footage would have reined people in or would it whip them into more of a frenzy

Makes me think what a good job Glastonbury has done at keeping its success going all these years whilst also still being sort of true to its roots

LeatherTrumpet 17-08-2022 08:47 PM

the Korn to Bush set

:worry:

Zizu 17-08-2022 09:07 PM

Bush are amazing !!


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LeatherTrumpet 17-08-2022 09:11 PM

so many women were sexually assaulted

:umm2:

Cherie 17-08-2022 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11202794)
the Korn to Bush set

:worry:

Wait for Limp Bizkit :worry:


Aside from the greed, it was insane to try recreate Woodstock 30 years on with a different generation, a new generation of drugs and to cap it all have in the main rock bands who just fired up the crowd, add in the heat to the mix and it was a receipe for disaster

Makes me giggle to think most of these people embarrassing themselves on tv are now middle aged :laugh:

LeatherTrumpet 17-08-2022 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11202799)
Wait for Limp Bizkit :worry:


Aside from the greed, it was insane to try recreate Woodstock 30 years on with a different generation, a new generation of drugs and to cap it all have in the main rock bands who just fired up the crowd, add in the heat to the mix and it was a receipe for disaster

Makes me giggle to think most of these people embarrassing themselves on tv are now middle aged :laugh:

blaming Fred from LB

i mean wtaf?

LeatherTrumpet 17-08-2022 09:24 PM

"it was insane to try recreate Woodstock "



recreate..<replace>....cash in on

Cherie 17-08-2022 09:42 PM

They treated the paying audience like **** so it’s not difficult to see why it turned nasty

LeatherTrumpet 17-08-2022 09:47 PM

i cant believe the organisers went on this?

Cherie 17-08-2022 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11202808)
i cant believe the organisers went on this?

They don’t appear to think they did anything wrong ...

LeatherTrumpet 17-08-2022 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11202811)
They don’t appear to think they did anything wrong ...

im astounded like..

wait


is there a Netflix docu exposing me??"

WHAT!!!


:umm2:

Niamh. 17-08-2022 11:00 PM

Fun fact: not really fun but I thought it was briefly hilarious. At the end sub titles came up saying Michael Lang died 3 months after filming the Documentary. I read it as 3 minutes which was really freaky

MTVN 18-08-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11202811)
They don’t appear to think they did anything wrong ...

That was pretty messed up when they were talking about the sexual assaults and he said Woodstock was the size of a small city and these things happen in cities :skull:

I might watch the HBO doc now too as the Netflix one seems to have left some things out like someone dying during the Metallica set and the Rage Against the Machine set getting people even more worked up

Cherie 18-08-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11202815)
Fun fact: not really fun but I thought it was briefly hilarious. At the end sub titles came up saying Michael Lang died 3 months after filming the Documentary. I read it as 3 minutes which was really freaky

I think he must had had cancer in had aged a lot in the intervening years

What were your thought Neem?

Cherie 18-08-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11202849)
That was pretty messed up when they were talking about the sexual assaults and he said Woodstock was the size of a small city and these things happen in cities :skull:

I might watch the HBO doc now too as the Netflix one seems to have left some things out like someone dying during the Metallica set and the Rage Against the Machine set getting people even more worked up

Oh same where can I watch that one please

Niamh. 18-08-2022 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11202867)
I think he must had had cancer in had aged a lot in the intervening years

What were your thought Neem?

Like Matt I thought they should have shown Rage Against the Machine as well, apparently they burned the American Flag on stage at the end of their set so it sounds like they riled the crowd up as much as Limp Bizkit. But yeah it was absolutely shocking, that poor 15 year old who was raped in the back of that van they drove into the Rave hanger as well, poor kid. And I suppose no justice was ever gotten for those girls, not really much hope of finding those men again unless the victims knew them.

I did read an article and Tom Morello from RATM said this about it in 2000 -

“I think the sexual assaults that occurred were horrific and inexcusable,” he said. “But in general, I thought the media coverage was grossly unfair and youth-bashing and tried to vilify an entire generation because of a couple of idiots there.”

He seemed to have changed his mind a lot more recently -

“For me, Woodstock ’99 was the low point of nu metal. The rapes in the pit, the trashing of the sites. It just seemed like it distilled the worst elements of metal — the misogynist jock buggery — and the message wasn’t announced as ‘this is a horrible thing.’ It was more like, ‘this is our new Woodstock generation — a bunch of idiots.’”



But in general I don't actually blame the bands at all, they were doing what those bands do. The organisers treated the crowd like animals and they ended up acting accordingly


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