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arista 17-07-2023 11:11 PM

Alzheimer's drug has been hailed as a "turning point" by scientists.
 
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Sounds good news.

arista 18-07-2023 01:06 PM

Sadly the cost of these New Dugs are around
$25,000 a go.

So unless the price lowers

the National Health may not be able to afford it



Was Debated on Ch5HD AM Live
1st show with Jeremy Vine at the start

Zizu 18-07-2023 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11310348)
Sadly the cost of these New Dugs are around
$25,000 a go.

So unless the price lowers

the National Health may not be able to afford it



Was Debated on Ch5HD AM Live
1st show with Jeremy Vine at the start


There’s not enough money to cope with the current situation…


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arista 18-07-2023 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11310367)
There’s not enough money to cope with the current situation…



All they can hope
is prices come down
by next year

Zizu 18-07-2023 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11310400)
All they can hope
is prices come down
by next year


Down to FREE maybe …


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arista 08-02-2024 02:18 AM

BBC News Text:
[The i's lead story is about a study which
found erectile dysfunction drugs, like Viagra,
reduces the risk of developing Alzheimer's by 18%.
However, scientists are warning men
against starting to take the drugs as
a precautionary measure.
Dr Leah Mursaleen, of Alzheimer's Research UK,
told the paper the study is "encouraging" but
doesn't confirm whether the drugs can
"slow or stop the disease".]

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UserSince2005 08-02-2024 02:33 AM

NHS needs to be abolished asap

arista 07-05-2024 10:52 AM

BBC News Text:
[The i leads with a study that has found
that anyone with two copies of
the APOE4 gene has at least a 95% chance
of developing Alzheimer's.
It reports that the "genetic breakthrough
raises hopes that patients can be
identified and treated earlier".]


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arista 07-05-2024 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11413839)
NHS needs to be abolished asap


No
Labour is keeping it.

Ammi 07-05-2024 11:21 AM

…I wonder how many have been treated with donanemab since the trials were completed…it’s good that the gene detection can predict it much earlier, though…

joeysteele 07-05-2024 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11447901)
No
Labour is keeping it.

Is that a veiled possible admission that the Cons don't intend to keep it ?

joeysteele 07-05-2024 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11447906)
…I wonder how many have been treated with donanemab since the trials were completed…it’s good that the gene detection can predict it much earlier, though…

Yes Ammi, your last point is really important as to earlier diagnosis of this really heartbreaking and cruel condition.

Anything that will help to ease the uncertainty and fear of it is extremely welcome.

arista 07-05-2024 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11447978)
Is that a veiled possible admission that the Cons don't intend to keep it ?


No
of course, Conservatives are keeping the NHS


I said Labour
as everyone seems to think they will win the G.E.

joeysteele 08-05-2024 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11448225)
No
of course, Conservatives are keeping the NHS


I said Labour
as everyone seems to think they will win the G.E.

I'm pleased to read that.
Thank you

DemRed 08-05-2024 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=arista;11310348]Sadly the cost of these New Dugs are around
$25,000 a go.

So unless the price lowers

the National Health may not be able to afford it



Was Debated on Ch5HD AM Live


It costs a lot more than that to keep an adult in a care/nursing home.
My grandmother has vascular dementia. She has been in a nursing home for just under 16 months and because she had assets, has been a self payer. So far its cost her over £100,000. Now the government have had to step in and fund for her because she's down to her last £6k. Apart from her VD she's fit and healthy and likely to live quite a few more years.

arista 08-05-2024 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=DemRed;11448529]
Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11310348)
Sadly the cost of these New Dugs are around
$25,000 a go.

So unless the price lowers

the National Health may not be able to afford it



Was Debated on Ch5HD AM Live


It costs a lot more than that to keep an adult in a care/nursing home.
My grandmother has vascular dementia. She has been in a nursing home for just under 16 months and because she had assets, has been a self payer. So far its cost her over £100,000. Now the government have had to step in and fund for her because she's down to her last £6k. Apart from her VD she's fit and healthy and likely to live quite a few more years.


Very Sorry to hear that.


I assume if the Labour Party
take over, changes will happen.

Mystic Mock 08-05-2024 10:02 PM

[QUOTE=DemRed;11448529]
Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11310348)
Sadly the cost of these New Dugs are around
$25,000 a go.

So unless the price lowers

the National Health may not be able to afford it



Was Debated on Ch5HD AM Live


It costs a lot more than that to keep an adult in a care/nursing home.
My grandmother has vascular dementia. She has been in a nursing home for just under 16 months and because she had assets, has been a self payer. So far its cost her over £100,000. Now the government have had to step in and fund for her because she's down to her last £6k. Apart from her VD she's fit and healthy and likely to live quite a few more years.

I just wanted to say that I'm sorry to hear about your Grandmother having Dementia.

And with the Alzheimer's Drug, I'm expecting that the price will come down once there's more of it in circulation.

arista 22-08-2024 02:16 AM

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Maru 22-08-2024 03:30 AM

The nice thing is in testing this, they'll likely find more effective ways to treat over time. It's just the start.

Ammi 22-08-2024 05:00 AM

…I’m not sure with this, I’d obviously love to think it’s the ‘breakthrough drug’ that’s being hailed by some but then there are others who aren’t so convinced so it’s a bit conflicted, I feel…and still has some very concerning ‘side effects’ like bleeding on the brain…which is about as severe as a side effect can get…so hadn’t been approved in Europe/the UK…and now it has but with no mention of those side effects not being a serious concern anymore…?…it feel very quick…maybe COVID vaccine type quick….

bots 22-08-2024 05:45 AM

i think that a side effect that causes brain swelling/bleeding is very concerning. It may well be dependent on other circulatory system health etc. Also, what most people don't realise is that just about everyone has some form of brain imperfection/defect. Messing with the brain has never been an exact science and we are a long way from it being exact

arista 22-08-2024 10:40 AM

Sadly the NHS can not fund this new medicine,
anyway.

At £20,000 per portion
it is far too high a cost.


Private Customers can pay it etc.

UserSince2005 22-08-2024 10:43 AM

NHS is a disgrace.

smudgie 22-08-2024 12:25 PM

It may not be affordable at the moment, but it is a breakthrough.
By the time it is affordable on the NHS we may be lucky enough to have eradicated the terrible side effects.
In the meantime it would be worth considering that those younger ones that suffer with this should be accepted for the drug.

bots 22-08-2024 12:39 PM

Medical research is an area that AI has improved beyond anyones expectation so we should expect many more spectacular advances in the near future. The cost will always be an issue though


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