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arista 28-07-2023 06:14 PM

Black 18 year old in Jail, her baby died in her cell
 
Ch4HDnews
said she shouted for help
but then collapsed, unable to shout out.

By the morning they found
the dead baby.

Rianna Cleary blames Camden Council


"Please Note :Using her being Black"
was pointed out on every news:
meaning less care for her




[A baby died after her "vulnerable"
18-year-old mother gave birth alone
in a jail cell following "systemic failings"
by state agencies, a coroner has said.
Aisha Cleary's mother Rianna Cleary made
two calls to staff that went unanswered

before her baby was born on
27 September 2019 at HMP Bronzefield.]

The teen had to cut the umbilical cord
with her teeth, the inquest heard
.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-66339627


Shocking Case
on all News today

UserSince2005 28-07-2023 06:19 PM

What was she is prison for?

arista 28-07-2023 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11312856)
What was she is prison for?



I assume Drug running,


[Ms Cleary had been in care and
had been exploited by county lines gangs before
she was jailed in August 2019, the inquest heard.]

UserSince2005 28-07-2023 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11312861)
I assume Drug running,


[Ms Cleary had been in care and
had been exploited by county lines gangs before
she was jailed in August 2019, the inquest heard.]

She’s scum then?

Cherie 29-07-2023 07:24 AM

she was treated appallingly, the screws should be done for manslaughter

arista 29-07-2023 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11312877)
She’s scum then?


Yes right for her to be in Jail
for her crime, at that time.

But there is a repeat problem
on young women entering a cell alone
and having babies, some die.

That's the issue now

arista 29-07-2023 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11312934)
she was treated appallingly, the screws should be done for manslaughter


Yes, they needed to watch her
more - but appears they were not aware
she was going to have the baby


So no manslaughter

DemolitionRed 29-07-2023 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11312877)
She’s scum then?

Firstly, the word 'assume' is a guess!
Secondly, was her dead baby scum too?

Cherie 29-07-2023 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11312959)
Yes, they needed to watch her
more - but appears they were not aware
she was going to have the baby


So no manslaughter

how could they not be aware? presumably she had to strip when she got to prison?

arista 29-07-2023 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11312971)
how could they not be aware? presumably she had to strip when she got to prison?


Yes but the young lady arrested
was aggressive towards the staff.

Cherie 29-07-2023 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11312974)
Yes but the young lady arrested
was aggressive towards the staff.

hardly a reason to ignore her? they must be used to it...

Oliver_W 29-07-2023 02:17 PM

I'm not saying that pregnant women should be let off crimes which carry a custodial sentence, but they certainly shouldn't be treated the same as everyone else.

arista 29-07-2023 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11313043)
hardly a reason to ignore her? they must be used to it...


Yes, the Staff failed her


The main problem was she had the baby
but then went to sleep or was unconscious

UserSince2005 29-07-2023 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 11312962)
Firstly, the word 'assume' is a guess!
Secondly, was her dead baby scum too?

No how would her baby be scum?


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