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Cherie 13-08-2023 10:53 AM

Claims record breaking mountaineers stepped over dying porter
 
Dozens of climbers are alleged to have walked past Mohammed Hassan in their eagerness to reach the summit of K2 after he was gravely injured in a fall. The claims overshadowed a record-breaking climb by Norwegian mountaineer Kristin Harila and her Nepalese guide Tenjen (Lama) Sherpa.

An investigation has been launched into claims climbers left a porter to die near the peak of the world's most treacherous mountain, a mountaineer has said.

Dozens of climbers are alleged to have walked past the Pakistani helper in their eagerness to reach the summit of K2 after he was gravely injured in a fall.

The accusations surrounding the events on 27 July on the world's second-highest peak overshadowed a record-breaking climb by Norwegian mountaineer Kristin Harila and her Nepalese guide Tenjen (Lama) Sherpa. They became the fastest climbers to scale the world's 14 highest mountains, which took 92 days.

She has rejected any responsibility for the death of the porter, Mohammed Hassan, a 27-year-old father of three who slipped and fell off a narrow trail in a particularly dangerous area of the mountain known as the bottleneck.

She was defending herself against allegations made by two other climbers who were on K2 that day, Austrian Wilhelm Steindl and German Philip Flaemig, who had aborted their climb because of adverse weather conditions but said they reconstructed events later by reviewing drone footage.

The footage appeared to show dozens of climbers passing a gravely injured Mr Hassan instead of coming to his rescue.

Mr Steindl alleged the porter could have been saved if the other climbers, including Ms Harila and her team, had given up their attempt to reach the summit.

"There is a double standard here. If I or any other Westerner had been lying there, everything would have been done to save them," Mr Steindl told the Associated Press. "Everyone would have had to turn back to bring the injured person back down to the valley."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...e09a28ec&ei=43


the video footgage does appear to show them walking past the injured porter :umm2:

bots 13-08-2023 11:06 AM

it apparently happens a lot on the climb of these peaks, it's known as the death zone. I've heard lots of excuses why it's done, but that's about all that happens

Oliver_W 13-08-2023 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11317930)
it apparently happens a lot on the climb of these peaks, it's known as the death zone. I've heard lots of excuses why it's done, but that's about all that happens

I was gonna say the same.

Apparently nearly all of the notable mountaineers would have walked past at least one injured or dying person at some point.

Not saying it makes it okay, but it also doesn't mean it's remarkable or different.

Crimson Dynamo 13-08-2023 11:14 AM

gotta hit the top and then bore everyone to tears on social media about your amazing achievement

:skull:

get out the way and dont ruin my experience by being dying

Oliver_W 13-08-2023 11:16 AM

If I was the tinfoil hat type, I'd wonder if they're trying to lessen a woman's achievement.

Zizu 13-08-2023 01:49 PM

I don’t understand any part of this story ..

The thought of leaving someone to suffer never mind DIE is totally and utterly abhorrent !!


I’ve never understood the obsession with climbing a cliff face once it’s already been conquered ..


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Cherie 13-08-2023 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11317933)
If I was the tinfoil hat type, I'd wonder if they're trying to lessen a woman's achievement.

or maybe no one took video before? its actually abhorrent, the poor guy

Mystic Mock 14-08-2023 03:58 AM

It's callous to leave someone to die like that imo.

I'm hoping that they're happy that they reached the top of the Mountain rather than save someone's life.

arista 14-08-2023 04:20 AM

Those lady climbers
could not help him,
it would put them in danger,

So they stepped over that fella,
but did they know he would Die?

arista 14-08-2023 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11318094)
It's callous to leave someone to die like that imo.

I'm hoping that they're happy that they reached the top of the Mountain rather than save someone's life.


The said they would Die as well,
if they helped him up

Cherie 14-08-2023 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11318099)
The said they would Die as well,
if they helped him up


"There is a double standard here. If I or any other Westerner had been lying there, everything would have been done to save them," Mr Steindl told the Associated Press. "Everyone would have had to turn back to bring the injured person back down to the valley."

Zizu 14-08-2023 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11318099)
The said they would Die as well,
if they helped him up


I haven’t read the whole story but if someone’s life is at risk then some of them or all of them should have taken him down to get medical treatment .

I don’t understand why he was allowed to die ..


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Niamh. 14-08-2023 09:20 AM

Yes I agree with the above posters, obviously you wouldn't bring an injured/dying man up the mountain, you would bring him down as quickly as possible to try and save him. Absolutely abhorrent to just leave another human being there to die and shame on any climber - male or female who has ever done that, if it's a "thing" as someone suggested up thread

arista 14-08-2023 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11318135)
I haven’t read the whole story but if someone’s life is at risk then some of them or all of them should have taken him down to get medical treatment .

I don’t understand why he was allowed to die ..


No one got to him in time.

These women did not know he would die

bots 14-08-2023 10:48 AM

it seems to be a case of everyone out for themselves at these peaks.

Cherie 14-08-2023 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11318135)
I haven’t read the whole story but if someone’s life is at risk then some of them or all of them should have taken him down to get medical treatment .

I don’t understand why he was allowed to die ..


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They were going for a record time

arista 14-08-2023 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11318182)
They were going for a record time

Yes, no time to stop

Zizu 14-08-2023 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11318182)
They were going for a record time


Well they should ALL face charges of some kind


IMHO


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arista 14-08-2023 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11318194)
Well they should ALL face charges of some kind


IMHO


No,
that nation will not
take them to court.


The claim if the tried to help him
they could fall....................


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