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MTVN 28-10-2023 11:37 AM

Has there been a housemate more unfairly maligned..
 
..than Noky?

It genuinely baffles me. She seems incredibly positive and supportive, has barely had a bad word to say about anyone, seems to care a lot about people and yet she gets slagged off by a lot of housemates for no clear reason, picks up nominations every week and is least favourite to win by a long way in the odds?

Henry and Jordan have been bitchy about her for a while but I was surprised and a bit disappointed that Trish was criticising her as well given I thought they were pretty close. Her crime seems to be that she talks to Kerry sometimes - how dare she mix with other people.

Paul bangs on that 'she hasn't got the bollocks to say it to my face' when she literally pointed out to him that writing Olivia on his board was not a great look. She got involved in that to protect Olivia and wasn't rewarded with the same loyalty really when Paul was slagging her off to Olivia who just stayed mute

There seems to be some sort of inverse snobbery going on where because she's obviously worked hard to succeed and is quite proud of that she gets dismissed as fake or putting on a front. She also considers her words carefully and articulates herself well so that's 'reading from a script' apparently.

Genuinely don't remember seeing someone so nice be thought so badly of

Zizu 28-10-2023 11:46 AM

I have zero idea why there is so much hatred aimed at this young lady !!

I’m not keen on her move to the naughty gang … and I don’t like her how she takes the stage and uses her beauty pageant techniques to get her opinions across BUT other than that she seems like a lovely young lady

I have no idea why Miss Universe is attracted to that foul mouthed toe-rag Paul


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MTVN 28-10-2023 11:54 AM

ALSO I've just heard that apparently Kerry and some of the others are claiming the crowd were chanting 'Get Noky Out' despite all the chants being for Kerry and Paul :oh:

Why do they do this

saiwong 28-10-2023 11:56 AM

My take on this is that housemates are carefully watching the competition and because of her beauty pagent background
suspect (with zero evidence ) that she is plotting things.

Other housemates could have it totally wrong and suspecting her of things she has not done
..... but that is Big Brothers social experiment.

Liam- 28-10-2023 11:58 AM

She’s being treated awfully, she’s constantly getting the blame for things multiple other people are involved in, they’ve completely misrepresented her in there, I have no idea why they’re doing it, maybe it’s because she is such a confident person and so sure of herself that they can’t stand it?

Paul, Jordan and Henry definitely have it out for her for some unknown reason, it’s beyond ridiculous

MTVN 28-10-2023 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11361547)
She’s being treated awfully, she’s constantly getting the blame for things multiple other people are involved in, they’ve completely misrepresented her in there, I have no idea why they’re doing it, maybe it’s because she is such a confident person and so sure of herself that they can’t stand it?

Paul, Jordan and Henry definitely have it out for her for some unknown reason, it’s beyond ridiculous

I think that's bang on, they're taking their own insecurities out on her

She must be starting to feel quite isolated in there

thesheriff443 28-10-2023 12:23 PM

I think it’s because at some points in the house she starts speaking and then just seems to get really emotional

It’s like someone when they accept an award they start out normal but then get teary
I think that has housemates thinking she is fake and playing to the camera

They have been a on a training course for this series, teaching them the do’s and donts

I think that has killed any real drama, housemates are all watching what they say and so quick to apologise

bots 28-10-2023 12:28 PM

The obvious reason is they perceive Noky to be their biggest rival to winning the show and they probably get frustrated at how calm she is through almost everything

Crimson Dynamo 28-10-2023 12:31 PM

I find her shallow and has a superior attitude. I have not heard her say anything interesting and she brings zero to the show. Just shoehorned in for her looks and ethnicity it seems.

Im baffled why she is still there tbh?

Ray. 28-10-2023 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11361544)
ALSO I've just heard that apparently Kerry and some of the others are claiming the crowd were chanting 'Get Noky Out' despite all the chants being for Kerry and Paul :oh:

Why do they do this

If it's the case that they're claiming that, then I don't understand why they think lying about a perfectly inoffensive HM will increase their chances of staying lol.

PoppyC 28-10-2023 12:37 PM

Noky is different from most people and she's not afraid to show it. She's a real individual. She's very kind and thoughtful (thoughtful both in the sense of caring about other people and being a deep thinker), but she's nothing like them. Anyone who's different will often be ostracised in the real world - and perhaps even more so in the BB house where paranoia is high. Someone who's different from the majority and communicates and thinks in a different way isn't just different, they're a possible gameplayer.

So I can understand why they're suspicious and there is an argument that they know Noky better than we do because they live with her, but living with someone doesn't mean you can't misinterpret them because it definitely happens. I think it has happened here. Noky has made mistakes because she's human, she's been overwhelmed by her emotions at unexpected times because she's human, but I also think she's really lovely and she doesn't deserve the hate

Raxton 28-10-2023 01:40 PM

I kinda get both of their view tbh.

I think the other HMs are suspicious of Noky because Noky is so bothered on how she is perceived on the outside, sometimes even more than how she is actually feeling on the inside.
Like the camping task, she want to be the vip.. then backtracks on it.. also from what hallie are saying, Noky says she want brand deals from the show then backtracks on it.
So the other HMs dont know when she says / do something in there, wether she actually mean it, or she says / does it to appeal to the public.

But that doesnt mean Noky is fake tho, its probably just how she is tbh. She is conditioned to be like that from a young age, i assume

daniel-lewis-1985 28-10-2023 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11361544)
ALSO I've just heard that apparently Kerry and some of the others are claiming the crowd were chanting 'Get Noky Out' despite all the chants being for Kerry and Paul :oh:

Why do they do this

They were chanting get Noky out. There’s a clip on Twitter of a girl shouting it right into the camera 😂

daniel-lewis-1985 28-10-2023 01:44 PM

After what Hallie said about her talking about brands etc I can see why the other housemates find her fake.

What I don’t understand is all these housemates and certain audience members calling Trish scary or intimidating when she’s the peace keeper.

It’s giving racism.

GoldHeart 28-10-2023 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChalkOutlineMan (Post 11361572)
If it's the case that they're claiming that, then I don't understand why they think lying about a perfectly inoffensive HM will increase their chances of staying lol.

They're not only deaf but also stupid if they think only Noky's name was shouted out , but it's fine they'll get a lovely wake-up call next week ....when hopefully louder "GET PAUL" out chants take over :laugh: . I noticed they ignored the' Get Kerry out ' chants this week aswell.

GoldHeart 28-10-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 11361629)
After what Hallie said about her talking about brands etc I can see why the other housemates find her fake.

What I don’t understand is all these housemates and certain audience members calling Trish scary or intimidating when she’s the peace keeper.

It’s giving racism.

How cute was the banner that said " Keep arr Trish in " though :love: .

arista 28-10-2023 02:22 PM

Noky has not been Centre stage enough
yet.


More Evicted should help her

GoldHeart 28-10-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11361531)
..than Noky?

It genuinely baffles me. She seems incredibly positive and supportive, has barely had a bad word to say about anyone, seems to care a lot about people and yet she gets slagged off by a lot of housemates for no clear reason, picks up nominations every week and is least favourite to win by a long way in the odds?

Henry and Jordan have been bitchy about her for a while but I was surprised and a bit disappointed that Trish was criticising her as well given I thought they were pretty close. Her crime seems to be that she talks to Kerry sometimes - how dare she mix with other people.

Paul bangs on that 'she hasn't got the bollocks to say it to my face' when she literally pointed out to him that writing Olivia on his board was not a great look. She got involved in that to protect Olivia and wasn't rewarded with the same loyalty really when Paul was slagging her off to Olivia who just stayed mute

There seems to be some sort of inverse snobbery going on where because she's obviously worked hard to succeed and is quite proud of that she gets dismissed as fake or putting on a front. She also considers her words carefully and articulates herself well so that's 'reading from a script' apparently.

Genuinely don't remember seeing someone so nice be thought so badly of

I spoke about this in another thread , Noky's biggest mistake was joining Olivia's group in the first place. Paul never liked her ...and Olivia will always chose STD rat Paul over her ,even Chanelle threw her under the bus ...no idea why Chanelle got herself involved in the name writing drama .

Chanelle is fake AF and so is Olivia. Noky has well and truly made a target for herself...so expect her to get nominated quite a few times next week.Noky should never have told Olivia about the name writing.

Non of them stuck up for Noky , Olivia is more worried about how it looks than any concerns about Paul's actual gf . I'm flabbergasted if he still had 1 after the show .

Noky is also a floater , so hm's like Jordan, Henry and even Trish now ....are questioning how genuine she is . What they don't realise is Chanelle is more sneaky and 2 faced ... she'll tell you you're great to your face ,then nominate you & she stirs the pot .

Noky either is trying to be everyone's friends, which doesn't work ie ... look what happened to Zak . Or she's trying to fit in. She should have stayed away from Kerry,Paul & Olivia . Paul keeps saying she hasn't got that " banter" with him....in reality he's intimidated by her confidence and how articulate she is . It's not her fault he's thick as pig sh1t and talks like he's got a month's load of flem in his mouth.

I think the whole beauty pageant thing aswell and how Noky Carrie's herself.....makes hm's doubt how genuine she is ,they say it's like it's rehearsed & reading a script. But I think that's just how she is .... especially with the beauty pageant .

She's definitely hard to read at times but Jordan is hard to read aswell....so it's funny him criticising her ,when he goes from Botox frozen face to giggling like a school kid :rolleyes: .

Heaven = Winner 28-10-2023 09:49 PM

The thing with Noky is that she feels like she presents herself on a surface level. I want to really like Noky but it feels like she’s too afraid to show her vulnerabilities and her flaws.

vesavius 28-10-2023 10:32 PM

I can only think it's because she hasn't really got a tribe so she is an easy target.

Once a person is 'othered' by a group nothing they can do will be good enough and every little thing will be cause for a problem and the group will bond over blowing it all out of proportion.

She needs to find close allies in there and soon. BB is a team sport.

Benjamin 28-10-2023 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11362030)
I can only think it's because she hasn't really got a tribe so she is an easy target.

Once a person is 'othered' by a group nothing they can do will be good enough and every little thing will be cause for a problem and the group will bond over blowing it all out of proportion.

She needs to find close allies in there and soon. BB is a team sport.

She was chatting with Henry for a lot of night, they seem to get on ok. But then sent went back to Paul, Olivia and Tom who called her a nerd for liking soduku. :facepalm:

GoldHeart 28-10-2023 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11362038)
She was chatting with Henry for a lot of night, they seem to get on ok. But then sent went back to Paul, Olivia and Tom who called her a nerd for liking soduku. :facepalm:

Henry nominated Noky last week , and him & Jordan bitch about her... but let's see if it's made a difference.

Benjamin 28-10-2023 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11362039)
Henry nominated Noky last week , and him & Jordan bitch about her... but let's see if it's made a difference.

Tbf she also nominated him the week before.

caprimint 28-10-2023 11:35 PM

I think it's because that niceness we see comes across as fake to many people. I did like her in the earlier stages but the constant crying/getting upset over every little thing just doesn't seem that genuine imo and I think Jordan/Henry are right about her. But the thing that ****ed it for her was the way she handled the Paul situation last night, she could have easily spoken to him if she thought there was a reason to (still not her place to get involved though), but instead she told... Olivia? She created something out of nothing which in turn made Paul look bad when he did nothing wrong

Ammi 29-10-2023 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11361544)
ALSO I've just heard that apparently Kerry and some of the others are claiming the crowd were chanting 'Get Noky Out' despite all the chants being for Kerry and Paul :oh:

Why do they do this

…because they can chant it, I guess…i didn’t hear it, I have to say…


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