Noky and Matty chat
 

When they were talking about Trish and honesty is not always the best policy anyone think she was throwing Trish under the bus a bit and testing the waters with Matty?

No I don't think she was throwing Trish under the bus. They're just not use to someone being so honest, as they clearly hold back a little.

Jenkin was the one testing Matty the other day ,when he was slagging Trish down..and he went " oh hi Trish ", and he expected Matty to agree with him.

Matty doesn't agree with many people he is not easily led.

Idk why but they seem determined to paint a narrative of Noky now turning her back on Trish, that's twice now they've edited long conversations down to small sections which aren't a fair representation. They're even using it on L&L now to suggest she is 'two faced' or that 'Paul was right' even though she still hasn't really said a bad word about Trish

She said nothing wrong there at all

It’s like BB want her to be evicted this week. She’s the most likely one to be nominated and the likely easiest one to evict from the upstairs gang. Her going would mean another spot for the garden gang in the final week.

She has a massive following though and it’s increasing by the day hence her betting odds getting shorter and shorter


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Unfortunately she’s taken a massive tumble again.

i'm feeling its all a bit contrived and set up. When I compared the live feed to the highlights that were supposed to represent it, there was obvious bias.

It's probably gone on for years, and we just didn't know it, but it's very disappointing

As I have said...I have not seen Noky spend ANY time with Trish since Paul left..she seems more interested in the outside group who clearly are not interested.
I dont think the upstairs group will nominate her other than maybe Jordan...because he has done so before.

If her popularity has gone down its because of the people she is choosing to spend more time with...

I got the same impression, especially as she seemed to be choosing to distance herself from Trish in her conversation with Olivia the other night.

I know there are heaps of Noky fans who will disagree, but I can’t help feeling that there is something about her that suggests she is insincere, manipulative and can’t be trusted.

She is, without a doubt, beautiful, elegant, intelligent and charming, but, I get the impression that she knows how to use these qualities to her advantage. To me she wears a mask that she conceals her true intentions behind, whereas Trish is raw, honest, open and true to herself. With Trish we see real emotion, whereas Noky seems aloof, and a little superficial to me. I want to like and trust her but my instincts are sending little red flags.

Yes, I'm disappointed. Trish had her back.

Thats abit how I feel aswell. Still with the benefit of the doubt, I think she cares too much about how she is perceived therefore sucking up. Shes abit too calculated with her speech, pretentious at Times.

She did, and went above and beyond to protect and defend Noky, to her own detriment, as she ended up taking the brunt of Dylan’s anger, and the resentment of the garden group, when it wasn’t her that nominated him.

She truly was Noky’s shield and, personally, I could never forget that sort of loyalty. To me, she hid behind Trish in the same way she hides behind her mask. And Trish deserves so much better.

Trish is brilliant. Definitely in my top three with Jordan and Yinrun.

Yes - and I wonder whether being in the beauty Queen business is the reason for this, as she is judged by her image, appearance and how she presents herself, rather than on the attributes of her character, so this is what she focuses on.

I think there's more to her than that. She's a good person.

That’s been my top 3 for a long time, though Jordan has dropped down a bit for me, so I hope he can redeem himself. Henry is also becoming a favourite for me - the more I see of him, the more I like him.

I like Jordan, because he's so much like me :laugh:

I don’t doubt that. None of them are bad people. Like everyone else in the world, they are all flawed individuals, and no-one is all good or all bad. I suppose we are either drawn to people, or we withdraw from people, depending on the values we share with them. I just don’t feel on the same page as Noky, but that doesn’t mean I dislike her or think she’s a bad person. She’s just not my type of person.

I think that makes her abit stuck up because she doesnt want to be stereotyped. Shes a nice girl but too focused on herself. Trish had her back through and through, but it doesnt seem mutual.

Aww, bless you, Vanessa. If you have Jordan’s sense of humour, that’s a great attribute. My favourite people are those who are a bit quirky and can make me laugh.

I think people are imposing unfair expectations on Noky. Yeah it's true that Trish was her crutch and she knows that but Trish has also been a crutch to Yinrun, Henry, even Matty a little bit. It's in her nature to do that and that's very commendable. Noky did apologise for Trish having to take the brunt of Dylan's wrath so she is aware of that. She has also had Trish's back in the past like during the ant task. At the same time she's not obliged to handle things in the same way if that doesn't come easily to her and all her relationships with other people can't only be conducted through the lens of what's acceptable to Trish.

I feel like Paul going has been such a release to her that she's been almost giddy about being able to relax in the house again and feel able to speak to anyone. She was so lively on the LF on Sat night and at the heart of everything. No doubt she is a bit of a people pleaser and that can be a flaw but it's not the biggest crime.

Do you know, I think what you’ve said has just struck a chord with me. Somehow she comes across as detached from others, and as if she perceives herself as somehow superior.

As I said in a previous post, all housemates have flaws, just as every person does. That doesn’t make Noky a bad person.

The truth is we will all base our responses to housemates. on what we as individuals value most in others. When our values seem to match, we will judge housemates more favourably. When we don’t see a match with our own values, we are more likely to find a housemate more difficult to relate to.