Religion, Beliefs can make War/Death
 

It sounds so easy to read the Bible and believe in God and Jesus Christ and everything being so lovely and peaceful in the world.

Goodness and love to your fellow man/woman.

Well, just look at all the killings and war and battles and hatred that exists in the world today, all in the name of their God or religion or beliefs.

Call it anything you like, but remember, that when you talk to anyone who kills in the name of what they believe in, they won't listen.

Nothing short of brainwashing:mad:

More problems about more hatred and more killings and power, but there is no answer.






nodisharmony :angel:

It is not always brainwashing nodis, sometimes it is just a love of a particular god that leads people to hate/fight for what they believe in.

Sad but true.

I agree that many religions don't cause any problems, I don't notice too much of the trouble which we find in certain countries, going on in lovely England, Wales & Scotland.

But we do watch the news and much of the war which goes on, is in the name of religion.

Many people just enjoy hostilities and killing, just for the sake of it.

So peace must be boring:bored:

at least to them? or is it just "power" that these warmongers crave for and do it for the sake of religion.

Looking for an excuse.






nodisharmony :angel:

I'm not very religious at all. My religion is Christianity but I don't believe a word the bible says, it's a load of ****. When i'm older if going to convert religion and become Aithiest.

No wars by Aithiests Matt:wink:

I am a Protestant, christened that way:thumbs:

But I don't follow religion, but I do believe that the angel's watch over us, especially the nice ones:angel:






nodisharmony :angel:

No atheists in foxholes

Atheists exists, but the wars don't occur from the Aitheists and if a war from someone who is religious does take place, then we know that religion is the reason.

At least, mostly.....






nodisharmony :angel:

im a christen and i have in been christenined as well but as i do beleive there is a god and what not i dont preach about it and dont disagree with any other religion for the simple fact its what you want to beleive not what you are made to - so therefore i dont beleive anyone is in the wrong for beleiving in what they do.

We are not talking about civilized people who can worship God in the UK in a church, or even say their prayers at night.

That is so sweet and harmless.

No, we are on about a different type of people, who choose to get a gun in their hand and plant bombs and kill and attack in any which way they can, which sounds quite agressive and fanatical, doesn't it?

Well, it is like that and it goes much deeper than a simple war or battle, I can tell you.

Let's look at Iraq, Afghanistan & Iran. Do you think that Religion is NOT behind all this war?

Well, there is facts and the fact is, religion is a big part of it.

Saddam Hussein was in deep prayer, right the way through his reign in power and right up to the point of his death.

It is usually found in the middle-eastern countries mainly, but we know that, don't we:rolleyes:

Just watch Ch4 news, as well as Big Brother and the News presenter will naturally tell us about Iraq and Afghanistan and troops and car-bombings, well, religion is behind it, it always is.

Perhaps if we all worshiped the same God & religion, then everything could be very different, but that won't happen, as there is more than one God.

But who will get away with telling them.

Without being killed....






nodisharmony :angel:

excuse me, that is what i call racist to middle eastern people its also very anti-semetic

Bush is also a Christian fanatic and uses christianity to drum up support over IRAQ, your a racist and an anti-semite

I think that watching the News alone tells you what you should already know on this matter.

There will be many people who live in the middle-east who don't wish to get on with War and killings and I am certainly not tarnishing them with one brush, that would be perhaps unfair.

What I am doing, is using many of the occupants from these middle-eastern countries and saying that the News keeps on focusing in that direction.

I spoke about, "Spain" and they don't seem to want to get a gun in their hand so often and cause as much trouble in the name of their God or religion.

There are fanatics everywhere, but where is the huge arrow pointing exactly.

You go on about Zionists and Jews, but you have an argument and an axe to grind on that issue, which is what a serious debate is all about.

But I am pointing out what this whole problem is really about and the route cause of all the problems.

The Religions which Jews, Middle-Easterners, or in fact, many other countries occupants have, will certainly sway the way they normally think when it comes to attack

No fanatics, no war, or is there more to this?

Don't accuse someone of having a racist view, when you have no facts to support your accusation.

I am talking about Religion and how those who go to war in the name of it, will ultimately be blamed






nodisharmony :angel:

Oh really, trying going to a Celtic home match, stand in the Jock Stein Stand and sing "Billy Boys" and see if you are able to walk out of the stadium

George W. Bush is a Warmonger and that opinion is not just mine.

"Send in more troops", he will say:whistle:

Another 1000 dead troops, oh well, George W. Bush will tell us all about their bravery and stuff.

Do we care how he goes about it? Why should we?

He prays to God, Ya know:rolleyes:

So I say 2 + 2 + 4 or better still (Fantatical warmonger + Religion = War)

In your opinion.....

Realist......Religion, War, Middle-East, BIG POINTED ARROW, Channel 4 News.

I do watch the News and so do you, so what is your problem with Jews and Zionists? a racist one??

I think that is crazy to say, as none of us can really say it is ALL, it is a case of ONE decides, who is the LEADER, THE POWER, and the troops are huge in volume, and the countries occupants better help, when required.

Remember NAZI Germany and innocent German people who do not wish to take part in the war.

Well, the Nazi's don't ask, they take...

You did understand Saddam, or did you???






nodisharmony :angel:

:laugh3:

exactly... saying middle eastern countries like war becuase of religoun and the PEOPLE who have started war AMERICA, UK and so on dont.

Try standing up to an Arsenal supporter who is a thug that you wouldn't dare cross, and he has about ten mates with him and the match was against Westham, and then shout "Westham are the greatest and Arsenal are losers"

I think you might end up with a black eye.

Go upto Jade Goody and call her a racist to her face, when she has a big entourage of bodyguards and thuggish friends around her, you might not be as fourthcoming face to face.

Those two examples make your's laughable :laugh::laugh:

Anyone who does point out problems which exist within any group or individuals, will naturally face fierce opposition, whether true or not.

Pick on yourself and your past critisisms and accusations, before picking on mine.

"Practicing what you preach", that's a true saying:rolleyes:




nodisharmony :angel:

So let's pick into this, shall we?

I pick "Iraq", is that okay?

I watch the News, just like we all do and we see a war going on and it never seems to end, now, why did it start?

Is it because the USA invaded? Well, the finger points to George W. Bush, doesn't it?

But why did he attack? Nuclear Weapons? Yes/No?

Did I say that the USA didn't go to War? Yes/No?

What reasons do Wars start exactly, if you look towards the middle-eastern countries. Well, why don't you ask and find out?

George W. Bush is known for being a bit of a Warmonger, this is by critics and I am a critic, just like you are.

The War get's started for a reason and remember, that the public don't get to hear all the information, but the fighting which goes on, is mostly about Religion and fighting and killing in the name of religion.

When the USA troops & UK troops go to war, do you think it is because of God & religion?

Am I missing something? I don't think so.....

I am NOT accusing those who don't wish to be a part of it, but there is always turning-a-blind-eye, and that can be just as bad.






nodisharmony :angel:

I'll happily tell her to her face she is a bullying racist if I am ever unfortunate enough to be in the same location as her - and her "bodyguards" will do nothing, although if they did then I would be trousering a huge chunk of her money


that only makes sense if you were remotely able to keep to your own point

State the obvious time

If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen is another saying - you started this particular topic, and are clearly unable to sustain the point you attempted and failed to make

So Jade Goody's bodyguards are going to attack you there and then. I don't think so....

Brains are involved and you know how clever Jade Goody can be & her team:wink:

Forget getting any of her money :laugh::laugh:

I do. & do it unauthodoxly, you'll have to keep up, both times, going once, going twice:wink:

The point being that Religion & Beliefs can make War & Death. I use the word, "Can", that doesn't mean, "Always", that makes a big difference, but things get a bit lost in threads..

I started this topic, that is right:thumbs:





nodisharmony :angel:

Wow, in the space of a single post you "forget" the content of your previous rant in yet another attempt to bait and switch. :rolleyes:

It was YOU who brought up the bodyguards

when I reply about the very thing YOU mentioned you try and switch tack, failing pathetically as usual.
:laugh:

There is nothing unorthodox about you, thats the correct spelling of unorthordox btw, - you are the very definition of the deaf dumb blind apologist, all three monkeys rolled into one when it comes to the skank racist pig

Carry On

I brought up "Bodyguards" and they don't have to be next to Jade Goody when they make their move to some foul mouthed ****

They protect her.




Wrong

I do spelling mistakes now & again, it happens:blush:

Now, Now, I'm getting all spooky :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Almost ghost-like, where you won't see the smoke-screen:dance:

Carry on, I won't on this thread, as the subject title is drifting away abit:nono:

We are both guilty of that, on this occasion:angel:

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Many wars are caused because of Religious beliefs.

The Countries I am choosing to point out, are the main bunch who are on the News continually.

Gordon Brown has a decision to make about pulling or not pulling out British troops out of Iraq.

Should he say, Yes/No to that decision?






nodisharmony :angel:

I see a personal insult in there, as you try to weasel out of the hole you dug yourself

Tut Tut Tut

I don't see one:puzzled:

What I do see, is, Jade's bodyguards would be happy to sort out someone who was happy to attack her verbally or even physically in some way.

That is what they are paid for.

and it wasn't directed at anyone in particular either.

Glad I cleared that up:whistle:

anyway, the topic is NOT about Jade, but we both must get back on topic, mustn't we both....





nodisharmony :angel:

I've always thought religion is evil.

Thou shalt not do this and that, do what you want, nobody should be living by rules when they don't even know the reality of what there worshipping.

Lives are lost everyday because of religion and this has happended throughout history and will continue to happen untill people realise life/living is more important!

I bet the last thing 'god' would have wanted was for everyone to be living in misery, dying in his name.


Edit: And that's not me saying it's wrong for people to do so, people can do what they want!