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Ammi 06-03-2024 05:33 PM

Women’s Aid condemns Celebrity Big Brother’s decision to include Gary Goldsmith…
 
Women’s Aid has criticised Celebrity Big Brother’s decision to include Kate Middleton’s uncle Gary Goldsmith as a contestant on the show.
In 2017, Goldsmith was fined and given a community order after admitting he had assaulted his wife in a drunken argument in which she accused him of taking drugs.

It comes as the businessman and podcast host is set to be put up for the public vote by fellow housemate Sharon Osbourne in Wednesday’s episode of the ITV1 series.

The national charity, working to end domestic abuse against women and children, said the inclusion of men who have been convicted of abuse in an entertainment setting is a sign to survivors that such crimes “are not taken seriously”.
A spokesperson for the charity said: “The decision to include a man who has been charged, and pleaded guilty to, assaulting his wife, in the Celebrity Big Brother house demonstrates the lack of awareness that the production team has when it comes to survivors of domestic abuse.

“The producers should consider how Gary Goldsmith’s appearance will impact women who have survived domestic abuse and how they will feel watching him on TV every night.
“At Women’s Aid we would urge the producers to consider how they approach this, as for many survivors of abuse, the inclusion of men convicted of abuse in entertainment programmes will already be a sign that these crimes are not taken seriously – the entertainment industry has to consider the impact on women of who they give a platform to and derive entertainment value from.”

A Big Brother spokesperson said: “All housemates undertake training in language and behaviour before entering the Big Brother house.
“All behaviour in the house is strictly monitored at all times.”

An apology provided by the broadcaster on his behalf said: “I’m not perfect and I made a mistake, a personal row seven years ago which was publicly exposed that I’ve worked endlessly for seven years to put right. The offence is long since spent however my regret continues.”

…full article…

https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/c...-b1143616.html



….…thoughts…?….

Ammi 06-03-2024 05:35 PM




Women’s Aid responds to Gary Goldsmith becoming a Celebrity Big Brother contestant
Women’s Aid spokeswoman comments:

“The decision to include a man who has been charged, and pleaded guilty to, assaulting his wife, in the Celebrity Big Brother house demonstrates the lack of awareness that the production team has when it comes to survivors of domestic abuse.

“The producers should consider how Gary Goldsmith’s appearance will impact women who have survived domestic abuse and how they will feel watching him on TV every night.

“At Women’s Aid we would urge the producers to consider how they approach this, as for many survivors of abuse, the inclusion of men convicted of abuse in entertainment programmes will already be a sign that these crimes are not taken seriously – the entertainment industry has to consider the impact on women of who they give a platform to and derive entertainment value from.”

bots 06-03-2024 05:40 PM

it depends how it's handled really and the public do get a vote

rusticgal 06-03-2024 06:10 PM

He won’t last long anyway…he will have absolutely no fan base.

Beso 06-03-2024 06:22 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001xbt2

9pm on monday.

Ammi 06-03-2024 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11421713)

…I think that’s the thing really….if Gary was genuinely sorry for his violence…?…then there are other ways…ways he could have shown that over 7 years and working with such a charity as Woman’s Aid…/…possibly hearing victim impact stories…?…so that what we were seeing now is Women’s Aid speaking out for him and how they feel he deserves this opportunity….but what we’ve heard from him is nothing of what he’s apparently ‘worked endlessly for 7 years to put right’….we’ve heard that he’s the black sheep and that he’s not keen on Harry and Meghan and all of that jazz…going into Celebrity BB under the guise of, I’ll tell all of Meghan and Harry is not the way to address his violent abuse and the moving on of… and he wasn’t convincing Sharon …who directly said, why don’t I believe you when you in saying that you’re not looking for celebrity and a personal gain only…why didn’t she believe him…?…because CBB is not the where people go to amend their pasts in any way….as in your link, it’s addressing his actions on the person and people whose lives it impacted…

Benjamin 07-03-2024 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11421700)
He won’t last long anyway…he will have absolutely no fan base.

Sadly this isn’t true. Remember Jim Davidson winning…

user104658 07-03-2024 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11422501)
Sadly this isn’t true. Remember Jim Davidson winning…

A significant chunk of this forum absolutely loved red-nosed wife beater Jim Davidson if I remember correctly. In a twist that surprised absolutely no one.

user104658 07-03-2024 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11421679)
“I’m not perfect and I made a mistake, a personal row seven years ago which was publicly exposed that I’ve worked endlessly for seven years to put right. The offence is long since spent however my regret continues.”

"I'm not sorry I did it but I am sorry that people found out."

Scumbag.

Benjamin 07-03-2024 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11422518)
A significant chunk of this forum absolutely loved red-nosed wife beater Jim Davidson if I remember correctly. In a twist that surprised absolutely no one.

I recall. One of TiBB’s lowest points.

arista 07-03-2024 11:34 PM

Yes was he Charged for his beating that woman?
Did he do time?


And he has said sorry.


Was it on TV
when he did this?

arista 07-03-2024 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11422501)
Sadly this isn’t true. Remember Jim Davidson winning…


Yes at that time he was the best of that bunch

jet 08-03-2024 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11422601)
Yes at that time he was the best of that bunch

He was not. I loathed him.

arista 08-03-2024 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 11422608)
He was not. I loathed him.

Sure
but out of all the celebrities he earned that Win.

Ammi 08-03-2024 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11422601)
Yes at that time he was the best of that bunch

…hmmmm, no…he was just in conflict with Linda Nolan and when it came to voting, she was disliked more…and that’s the nature of voting and reality shows etc…

Crimson Dynamo 08-03-2024 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11422599)
Yes was he Charged for his beating that woman?
Did he do time?


And he has said sorry.


Was it on TV
when he did this?

end the virtue signaling Arista

BOOM

:joker:

Jim was brilliant

Cherie 08-03-2024 07:56 AM

I liked Jim on CBB :omgno: I judged him as he came across on the show :shrug: I find it a bit more difficult with Gary

Crimson Dynamo 08-03-2024 08:01 AM

The national charity, working to end domestic abuse against women and children, said the
inclusion of men who have been convicted of abuse in an entertainment setting is a sign to
survivors that such crimes “dont matter as much to people who don't know the
them persoanlly and care more about personal gain financially though their career and
personal importance"


They would also like to say they were called by a journo to get their reaction otherwise they would have not noticed or really cared


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Oliver_W 08-03-2024 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11422663)
I liked Jim on CBB :omgno: I judged him as he came across on the show :shrug: I find it a bit more difficult with Gary

I wasn't aware of Jim's background, but I really liked him in CBB.

Gary, I don't care about either way.

Reminds me of Thomas Markle and Omarosa. They were cast because BB thought they'd be dropping truth bombs and hottakes on Harry+Megan and Trump respectively, when they were both boring wet farts :laugh:

Ammi 08-03-2024 08:17 AM

…apparently Gary’s wife slapped him during an argument and he then punched her…she fell and hit her head on the pavement and was unconscious for several seconds…there was also at the time (…apparently…)…a News of the World ‘sting’ and Gary was recorded as offering to sell ‘cocaine and prostitutes’ to News of the World reporters or a reporter….so far as now and the present etc go…and so far as opinions in his entertainment value and any other contributory etc to the BB house go….its really up to everyone individually to decide what their feelings are about him….this is obviously why he was signed, to create this controversial/divided public opinion…

Zizu 08-03-2024 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11422678)
…apparently Gary’s wife slapped him during an argument and he then punched her…she fell and hit her head on the pavement and was unconscious for several seconds…there was also at the time (…apparently…)…a News of the World ‘sting’ and Gary was recorded as offering to sell ‘cocaine and prostitutes’ to News of the World reporters or a reporter….so far as now and the present etc go…and so far as opinions in his entertainment value and any other contributory etc to the BB house go….its really up to everyone individually to decide what their feelings are about him….this is obviously why he was signed, to create this controversial/divided public opinion…


Disregarding his past .. I just can’t take to him .. he’s like Fern .. very insincere imho

That time when he was listening to Sharon and Louie dissing various celebrities and he said “ I’ve just had the best moment of my life !” was skin crawling .


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bots 08-03-2024 08:40 AM

There is no law that someone who does or says something controversial should not appear on TV and yet some get thrown out for it and others don't. Usually, it is decided by the companies that pay for advertising, forget what the public think

Ammi 08-03-2024 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11422685)
Disregarding his past .. I just can’t take to him .. he’s like Fern .. very insincere imho

That time when he was listening to Sharon and Louie dissing various celebrities and he said “ I’ve just had the best moment of my life !” was skin crawling .


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…’disregarding his past’ is an interesting thing as well and very much what some are feeling…because it’s very relevant also that BB themselves have ejected housemates for their pasts and tweets, mainly…that past has meant that person has had to leave the house…fans don’t like to see such inconsistencies, do they…

Cherie 08-03-2024 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11422692)
…’disregarding his past’ is an interesting thing as well and very much what some are feeling…because it’s very relevant also that BB themselves have ejected housemates for their pasts and tweets, mainly…that past has meant that person has had to leave the house…fans don’t like to see such inconsistencies, do they…

I think the difference here is his past has not been unearthed after he entered the house which is what has happened to other HMs previously, he has been to court pleaded guilty and been fined, although given it was GBH you would have thought he would have got a prison sentence but then again if she slapped him she should also have gone to prison, the public will judge him now, so far he hasn't been showed as anything but a bore so public perception of him which he wanted to change will not have changed at all so it is karma of a kind

Ammi 08-03-2024 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11422706)
I think the difference here is his past has not been unearthed after he entered the house which is what has happened to other HMs previously, he has been to court pleaded guilty and been fined, although given it was GBH you would have thought he would have got a prison sentence but then again if she slapped him she should also have gone to prison, the public will judge him now, so far he hasn't been showed as anything but a bore so public perception of him which he wanted to change will not have changed at all so it is karma of a kind

…well, it’s a bit of a tricky one, isn’t it…because BB say that they have welfare packages in place to look into pasts and tweets etc…and yet the most basic of internet activity is being exposed on hmmmm, I would say reasonably regular basis…it’s all very easy to find and being found by the general public constantly…so I do think that they’re manipulating their own ‘rules’ and ethos to their own agendas…I don’t feel that Gary’s past would have been overlooked or disregarded at all in any way, had he not been Kate’s uncle ….and possibly also hoped to have some ‘reveals’…


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