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arista 26-03-2024 06:37 AM

USA :Baltimore Bridge overnight Collapsed into the river: Hit by Cargo ship
 
A ship Hit it in the Dark
the whole bridge massive size crashed into the river

Ref:GMBHD itv Live

Big Cargo Ship
after 1AM there time
1977 built metal steel bridge destroyed.

What the hell as the ships Captain doing?
on his way to Sri Lanka



Possible Deaths


[The 3km ong Key Bridge in Baltimore,
Maryland collapsed into the water
overnight after a cargo ship collided with it.
The extent of the damage to the bridge
was not immediately clear,
the New York Times said.
"All lanes closed both directions
for incident on I-695 Key Bridge.
3 mins ago]


https://nypost.com/wp-content/upload...y=75&strip=all


https://nypost.com/2024/03/26/us-new...ontainer-ship/

Ammi 26-03-2024 06:55 AM

….’At least seven people are believed to have fallen into the water. The collapse has been called a "developing mass casualty" by an official at the city's fire department.’…

Ammi 26-03-2024 06:56 AM


Ammi 26-03-2024 06:59 AM

…the force of the impact is so unfathomable …the bridge folded as if it were made of matchsticks or cardboard…just awful…

arista 26-03-2024 07:14 AM

Yes,
Massive Cargo Ship Bangs into it
on the left hand side of the video of Ammi's tweet.

SkyNewsHD
found out the bridge was being worked on.
So many lanes were closed.
Around 7 workers in the water.

Ammi 26-03-2024 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11434208)
Yes,
Massive Cargo Ship Bangs into it
on the left hand side of the video of Ammi's tweet.

SkyNewsHD
found out the bridge was being worked on.
So many lanes were closed.
Around 7 workers in the water.

…plus some vehicles still ‘hanging’ from the bridge is being reported…

MTVN 26-03-2024 07:36 AM

Quite incredible footage. I wouldn't think even a ship that size colliding into it would be enough to make the bridge completely buckle like that

arista 26-03-2024 07:36 AM

Now reports 20 in the water

arista 26-03-2024 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11434211)
Quite incredible footage. I wouldn't think even a ship that size colliding into it would be enough to make the bridge completely buckle like that


Yes it was a Massive Cargo Ship
so it can buckle steel fast.

The Captain is Guilty

Ammi 26-03-2024 07:47 AM

…the ‘up to 20 in the water’ is also because of construction workers who were doing maintenance work on the bridge at the time…it’s obviously still a developing story as the rescue workers are assessing it all…just all incredible, really….



Ammi 26-03-2024 07:50 AM

…really fortunate if it was that the bridge was quiet with vehicle traffic at the time…I don’t know if that’s the case but hopefully it wasn’t at a more busy time of the day….

bots 26-03-2024 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11434211)
Quite incredible footage. I wouldn't think even a ship that size colliding into it would be enough to make the bridge completely buckle like that

Is that an earthquake zone? That's the only reason i can think of for it to be as flexible as that

Mystic Mock 26-03-2024 08:31 AM

Hopefully the 20 people end up being okay.

Cherie 26-03-2024 08:33 AM

My God, how did a ships captain get that so wrong, those poor people on the bridge

arista 26-03-2024 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11434255)
My God, how did a ships captain get that so wrong, those poor people on the bridge

In 2016
Same massive cargo ship
was in the Belgium Port
smashed into it.



So that crew are pathetic.



SkyNewsHD updates

Ammi 26-03-2024 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11434284)
In 2016
Same massive cargo ship
was in the Belgium Port
smashed into it.



So that crew are pathetic.



SkyNewsHD updates

…Arista, you are so precise about accuracy and truth and yet you randomly post such a thing that you have no idea about…it may have been the same ship involved in that minor incident but it was 8 years ago and we have no idea as to any of the crew at that time or their roles etc…

Ammi 26-03-2024 09:02 AM

Maryland governor declares state of emergency
Maryland governor Wes Moore has declared a state of emergency as rescuers continue to search for people in the water.
In a statement published by his press secretary, Mr Moore said: "We are working with an interagency team to quickly deploy federal resources from the Biden administration.
"We are thankful for the brave men and women who are carrying out efforts to rescue those involved and pray for everyone’s safety.
"We will remain in close contact with federal, state, and local entities that are carrying out rescue efforts as we continue to assess and respond to this tragedy."

Ammi 26-03-2024 09:05 AM

Machinery error 'most likely' cause of crash, says expert
A maritime safety expert says the "most likely" cause of the crash was a failure in the ship's machinery.
David McFarlane, director of Maritime Risk and Safety Consultants Ltd, told Sky News: "The first thing that springs to my mind is: was there a sudden fault with the ship's engines or the steering gear? The other, of course, is: was there a navigational error?"
Mr McFarlane said a human error was less likely because of the number of people who would have been on duty.
"There should be no room for one-person errors because one of the other people should jump in and say 'hang on...'," he said.
"The most likely cause of this is a failure in machinery or steering gear, but we just won't know until the authorities have been on board. And even then, they're unlikely to say what's been going on for some considerable time."

user104658 26-03-2024 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11434288)
…Arista, you are so precise about accuracy and truth and yet you randomly post such a thing that you have no idea about…it may have been the same ship involved in that minor incident but it was 8 years ago and we have no idea as to any of the crew at that time or their roles etc…

It's surely likely to have been a mostly entirely different crew... so if it's not coincidence, it suggests design flaws with the ship itself and not human error from the crew.

It does maybe suggest that more safety testing should have been done after the prior incident...

arista 26-03-2024 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11434288)
…Arista, you are so precise about accuracy and truth and yet you randomly post such a thing that you have no idea about…it may have been the same ship involved in that minor incident but it was 8 years ago and we have no idea as to any of the crew at that time or their roles etc…


Of Course
but it is looking worse for that crew.


These Massive Cargo Ships
need the best crew to take more care

Ammi 26-03-2024 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11434294)
It's surely likely to have been a mostly entirely different crew... so if it's not coincidence, it suggests design flaws with the ship itself and not human error from the crew.

It does maybe suggest that more safety testing should have been done after the prior incident...

…yeah this was one ‘speculation’…and although it’s someone who does have expertise in maritime safety etc…it is obviously just a ‘distant eye’ of higher possibilities, which is as you say…maybe looking toward design flaw/machine error, type thing…but obviously there now will be a very lengthy investigation and if there is any ‘human culpability’ I’m sure that will be discovered also…


Machinery error 'most likely' cause of crash, says expert
A maritime safety expert says the "most likely" cause of the crash was a failure in the ship's machinery.
David McFarlane, director of Maritime Risk and Safety Consultants Ltd, told Sky News: "The first thing that springs to my mind is: was there a sudden fault with the ship's engines or the steering gear? The other, of course, is: was there a navigational error?"
Mr McFarlane said a human error was less likely because of the number of people who would have been on duty.
"There should be no room for one-person errors because one of the other people should jump in and say 'hang on...'," he said.
"The most likely cause of this is a failure in machinery or steering gear, but we just won't know until the authorities have been on board. And even then, they're unlikely to say what's been going on for some considerable time."

Ammi 26-03-2024 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11434299)
Of Course
but it is looking worse for that crew.


These Massive Cargo Ships
ned the best crew to tale more care

…we don’t know if there is any significant crew error that would have any bearing on the crash and we don’t know of any crew today being the same as any 8 year ago crew so to say it’s all a pathetic crew/one pathetic crew of the same is inaccurate….

arista 26-03-2024 09:22 AM


Poxy sub contractors - no good



["We can confirm that the container vessel “DALI”,
operated by charter vessel company Synergy Group,
is time chartered by Maersk and is carrying
Maersk customers’ cargo."

It adds that no Maersk crew and personnel were
onboard the vessel.

"We are closely following the investigations
conducted by authorities and Synergy,
and we will do our utmost to keep
our customers informed."]

user104658 26-03-2024 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11434304)
…we don’t know if there is any significant crew error that would have any bearing on the crash and we don’t know of any crew today being the same as any 8 year ago crew so to say it’s all a pathetic crew/one pathetic crew of the same is inaccurate….

I agree, if it had been last month then maybe more to be suspicious about with incompetence but 8 years is a long time for what will be a tough/physically demanding role, most if not all of the crew will be completely different I'd have thought.

But it is the same ship so that's probably the place to start.

Ammi 26-03-2024 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11434328)
I agree, if it had been last month then maybe more to be suspicious about with incompetence but 8 years is a long time for what will be a tough/physically demanding role, most if not all of the crew will be completely different I'd have thought.

But it is the same ship so that's probably the place to start.

…yeah for sure, two direct impacts in the life of a ship is very much ‘not the norm’, I would say from an inexperienced eye view…so that feels like a good place to start, to look also at the investigations that took place in 2016 and any ship faults/flaws/mechanical failures etc that may have been a factor…looking for any adverse common factors with the two incidents…


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