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Denver 25-05-2024 09:41 PM

Tories plan to bring back National Service
 
Sunak has confirmed if the Tories pull up an unlikely win at the next General Election they will put plans in motion that will see all 18 year olds face 1 year national service

Crimson Dynamo 25-05-2024 09:43 PM

:dance2:

Black Dagger 25-05-2024 09:53 PM

Officially ran out of ideas

Denver 25-05-2024 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 11455877)
Officially ran out of ideas

The UK has thousands of problems but National Service isn't one and should have been bottom of any list of pledges

joeysteele 25-05-2024 09:58 PM

I wouldn't support that.

The Cons certainly seem to like TELLING people what to do in their lives rather than ASKING them.
I went to University at 18, there's no way I'd have been impressed if I'd had to go into National Service.
No way, not a chance.

Crimson Dynamo 25-05-2024 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11455883)
I wouldn't support that.

The Cons certainly seem to like TELLING people what to do in their lives rather than ASKING them.

asking young people?

that is a massive mistake

they don't know their rear ends from their elbows

have a look at the twats at our unis

total woke mind virus rockets

UserSince2005 25-05-2024 10:06 PM

smart to give a load of 18 year old jihadis a gun.

joeysteele 25-05-2024 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11455884)
asking young people?

that is a massive mistake

they don't know their rear ends from their elbows

have a look at the twats at our unis

total woke mind virus rockets

UK citizens are considered adult at 18.
So yes, consulting and asking first is the decent thing to do.

When we had National Service before when the adult age was deemed to be 21.
It had to be between 18 to 21.
Not at or after 21.

I hear from younger people often far more sense than from more bigoted people who are a lot older and actually delude themselves into thinking they're an example to others.
Huh!

Denver 25-05-2024 10:21 PM

It's funny how everyone who is supporting this didn't actually do national service themselves, maybe we should backdate it and have them go first

bots 25-05-2024 10:27 PM

people need to wake up. We have war on our doorstep. We will have to move to a war footing whatever party wins the election

Mystic Mock 25-05-2024 10:29 PM

It's a good thing that they're not winning the Election then.

And I can tell that David Cameron is back in the party with this policy rearing it's ugly head again.

Mystic Mock 25-05-2024 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11455892)
It's funny how everyone who is supporting this didn't actually do national service themselves, maybe we should backdate it and have them go first

:clap1:

Mystic Mock 25-05-2024 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11455897)
people need to wake up. We have war on our doorstep. We will have to move to a war footing whatever party wins the election

Do you think it'll be fought like it was back in the WWII days?

Russia can barely handle Ukraine, they'd be crazy to come for the UK in the same manner.

joeysteele 25-05-2024 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11455898)
It's a good thing that they're not winning the Election then.

And I can tell that David Cameron is back in the party with this policy rearing it's ugly head again.

You're dead right on that Mock.

arista 26-05-2024 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11455873)
:dance2:

He has left it too late.


Should have done it a year ago


He will not win the Election.

arista 26-05-2024 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11455897)
people need to wake up. We have war on our doorstep. We will have to move to a war footing whatever party wins the election

Yes would help all 18-year-olds



Of Course,
Sunak is not going to win.

All polls taken, say he is to be kicked out


Also this is just a Weekend or so.

Mystic Mock 26-05-2024 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11455939)
He has left it too late.


Should have done it a year ago


He will now win the Election.

The National Service policy is too divisive to ever win a party the Election.

arista 26-05-2024 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11455941)
The National Service policy is too divisive to ever win a party the Election.


Yes a dream


Thank You Wise Katy Balls
who said it would not start until 2029


WW3 is likely before then

MTVN 26-05-2024 07:12 AM

The actual plan is this:

Quote:

It said 18-year-olds would have a choice of either joining the military full-time for 12 months, or volunteering one weekend every month carrying out a community service.

The party is proposing a Royal Commission to consider the details but would plan for the first teenagers to take part in September 2025.

The cost is expected to be around £2.5bn per year.

Under the plans, young people could choose a full-time placement in the armed forces or UK cyber defence, learning about logistics, cyber security, procurement or civil response operations.

Their other option would be to volunteer one weekend per month - or 25 days per year - in their community with organisations such as fire, police and the NHS.
Which is not quite as onerous. Interestingly it is still used in the majority of countries in the world including many of those which are seen as quite progressive. Denmark recently expanded their national service to also include all women of the relevant age

Ammi 26-05-2024 07:22 AM

…I would say that he’s just alienated many potential votes of many young people…as well as their parents…and grandparents…and aunts and uncles and etc…

arista 26-05-2024 07:37 AM

If you refuse

NO jail.

Home Secretary On Trevor Phillips SkyNewsHD

arista 26-05-2024 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11455964)
…I would say that he’s just alienated many potential votes of many young people…as well as their parents…and grandparents…and aunts and uncles and etc…


But you can refuse

Ammi 26-05-2024 07:55 AM

…so it’s not really National Service, then…

joeysteele 26-05-2024 08:05 AM

Now after his announcement he's clouding the issue again.

This PMs deceit is unbelievable.
It cannot be National Service if any kind that has to be done but still can be voluntary.

So just what is this useless and incompetent proposing.

I say again.
Dictating to people who are adults that they must do something like this is neither good governing or even respectful.

I was at Uni at 18.
I'd have refused to do any of this whatever he's proposing.
So if I had, what would he have done about that.

This is what he does, fires a badly thought out idea then confuses and divides afterwards.

If it's mandatory then it's not voluntary.
Surely even Fishy Sunak can work that one out.

Crimson Dynamo 26-05-2024 08:33 AM

send them to Israel for 12 months to get trained up and help there


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