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GiRTh 22-06-2024 02:06 PM

The Kalvin Phillips Thread
 
What do you think is wrong with the England football team. Where do you think the team can improve?

GiRTh 22-06-2024 02:10 PM

I'll go first but I think the points are obvious.

Trent is not a midfielder. Even Klopp says he's an inverted defender not a midfielders. The midfield, from the players available, should be Foden, Bellingham, Rice.

I admire Trent but its like Rice cant get forward cuz he's too concerned with Trent

Crimson Dynamo 22-06-2024 02:10 PM

I think the failure to get a replacement for KP

Who has been sh1t for the last 2 seasons is what has gone wrong

stands to reason, innit

Zizu 22-06-2024 02:12 PM

I would have TAA has right wingback and Wharton paired up with him


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Zizu 22-06-2024 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11468313)
What do you think is wrong with the England football team. Where do you think the team can improve?


Crazy as it sounds Southgate should have brought Henderson to play midfield


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GiRTh 22-06-2024 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11468318)
Too many darkies (TIBB template number 3).

:laugh::laugh:

That's true of all England teams. Too many Asians in the cricket team too. :joker:

GiRTh 22-06-2024 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11468317)
I think the failure to get a replacement for KP

Who has been sh1t for the last 2 seasons is what has gone wrong

stands to reason, innit

According to the incompetent manager but unfortunately his logic makes no sense. :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 22-06-2024 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11468325)
According to the incompetent manager but unfortunately his logic makes no sense. :laugh:

I just laughed when I heard him say that

Its the kind of thing a parody account would tweet out :joker:

bots 22-06-2024 02:32 PM

I think you have to analyse what Southgate actually said. No midfielder exists in England that is up to the standard of a guy that has played about 3 competitive games in 3 years. So Rice, Foden, Palmer, Bellingham etc are just not good enough :laugh:

GiRTh 22-06-2024 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11468328)
I think you have to analyse what Southgate actually said. No midfielder exists in England that is up to the standard of a guy that has played about 3 competitive games in 3 years. So Rice, Foden, Palmer, Bellingham etc are just not good enough :laugh:

YEah agree. There are wider implication to the statements. HE's also saying that Wharton, Gallagher and Mainoo are not as good as Kalvin Phillips. I'd say they were different but actually better than Phillips.

GiRTh 22-06-2024 02:50 PM

Also, if the manager has been looking for an 'adequate replacement' for Kalvin Phillips then why has a player like James Ward-Prowse payed so few games.

The manager chats a lot of jibber jabber usually with no push back. Finally people are seeing that he talks alot of crap that doesn't make sense or requires a follow up. Unfortunately, if he's grilled in pressers then whoever did the grilling would not be invited to the next press conference.

Crimson Dynamo 22-06-2024 02:53 PM

He also talks about "we lacked cohesion on the ball"

its all 90s management consultant bollocks

he hasn't a clue and the players have realised

GiRTh 22-06-2024 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11468326)
I just laughed when I heard him say that

Its the kind of thing a parody account would tweet out :joker:

True. HE's finally shot himself in the foot.

bots 22-06-2024 03:25 PM

I think it has a lot to do with the mentality of the players. These are guys that have wealth beyond comprehension, they keep hearing that they are the best players england ever had, so when they score a goal, they think that's the job done now so they just ease off. If you listen to what some of the players said, it was like ... why are you all moaning .... we won .... we drew .... we qualified. They don't see the problem. It's arrogance more than anything else

From a "fans" perspective, they see a bunch of over entitled under achievers. The bubble has to burst at some point.

Zizu 22-06-2024 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11468351)
I think it has a lot to do with the mentality of the players. These are guys that have wealth beyond comprehension, they keep hearing that they are the best players england ever had, so when they score a goal, they think that's the job done now so they just ease off. If you listen to what some of the players said, it was like ... why are you all moaning .... we won .... we drew .... we qualified. They don't see the problem. It's arrogance more than anything else

From a "fans" perspective, they see a bunch of over entitled under achievers. The bubble has to burst at some point.


Sounds about right


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GiRTh 22-06-2024 05:11 PM

I'm gonna stick up for the players. In as much I agree footballers are spoilt and over paid, I have to point out that these players dont act like Prima Donnas when playing for their clubs. Their managers would never allow it.

I think the issue at international level is with the manager not the players

Beso 22-06-2024 05:46 PM

They need to find a formation that allows stones more freedom to push forward through the centre of midfield. That is they key.

GiRTh 22-06-2024 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11468397)
They need to find a formation that allows stones more freedom to push forward through the centre of midfield. That is they key.

Great idea. Stones has shown he can move into the midfield for City. I think it was one of the big factors why Man City won the Champions league last year. Southgate cant see it just thinks England need 'an adequate replacement' for Kalvin Phillips. Southgate's level of cluelessness is clear for all to see.

This is the thing though. We aint talking about an England great ie Gerrard, Lampard, Beckham, Scholes etc. We're talking about Kalvin Phillips. Kalvin friggin Phillips. Southgate needs to p*ss off after the tournament and chat his bollocks somewhere else

Alf 22-06-2024 07:36 PM

Simple. Just win and win comfortable next game.

Do that and the confidence will be back in the fans for the knock-out stage.

We're unbeaten and haven't played well so far. We're already basically in the knock out-games.

There's and old saying "that if you can still win by not being at your best, then it's the sign of a good team"

Next game is a different game, on a different day. No pressure on it, we can go out and attack the game. Get a good win and that will set us up nicely for the next stage.

Mystic Mock 22-06-2024 09:39 PM

I would go more attacking minded.

I would have Bellingham going further forward, and I would have Kane and Watkins up front with each other.

I also would have Foden on the bench in place of Palmer.

I would also take a gamble on Konsa playing left back instead of Trippier.

GiRTh 24-06-2024 04:55 PM

The consensus is that Trent will be dropped for Conor Gallagher. Bold and ambitious move by Gareth.

Has anyone clocked that so far England have scored as many goals as Scotland!!!!

Crimson Dynamo 24-06-2024 05:36 PM

Kane reacts to Lineker calling the performance sh1t like he called the players ****

he didn't Harry he called the manager sh1t

Zizu 24-06-2024 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11469200)
The consensus is that Trent will be dropped for Conor Gallagher. Bold and ambitious move by Gareth.

Has anyone clocked that so far England have scored as many goals as Scotland!!!!


Bet Fred are again offering 100:1 for England to bring it home .. Talksports advert featuring Harry Redknapp


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GiRTh 24-06-2024 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11469235)
Kane reacts to Lineker calling the performance sh1t like he called the players ****

he didn't Harry he called the manager sh1t

Kane acting like England players are the only players who ever get any criticism.

Mystic Mock 24-06-2024 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11469200)
The consensus is that Trent will be dropped for Conor Gallagher. Bold and ambitious move by Gareth.

Has anyone clocked that so far England have scored as many goals as Scotland!!!!

England and France have both had the same issue in front of goal this tournament it seems.

It's just both teams are less clumsy defensively, which separates us from Scotland.


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